rural primitives discuss bathroom tissue

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=268x1425

Man, the rural and small town forum on Skins's island is a Comstock Lode of undiscovered stuff.

This bonfire was lit in March, and it's still burning.

The snobbish primitive, who lives near Vancouver, Canada, but not in Canada; the hard-of-hearing woman primitive who, I'm circa 55% certain, chews tobacco:

uppityperson  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Wed Mar-12-08 06:47 PM
Original message

TP and septic systems
   
I just cruised through another top forum and it got me thinking about toilet paper and septic fields. Don't ask. We have used Scott single ply for yrs because it is what Mr.UP thinks is best for the septic, but I really hate that thin rough fast dissolving stuff. So, knowing we all have opinions and someones might have some facts too, any opinions or facts about the best TP to use with a septic? Thanks.

trotsky  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Wed Mar-12-08 06:52 PM
Response to Original message

1. I grew up with a septic system.
   
My mom INSISTED on Charmin. The soft stuff. We never used anything else, and we never had a problem with our tank.

The Kali primitive, a first-tier primitive, who lives down in Texas, on a ranch near the border with Mexico:

Kali  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sun Mar-23-08 12:11 PM
Response to Reply #1

13. Really? Charmin seems to clog our "system" more than any other brand.
   
I can handle Scott just fine, but the wimpy men in the house need softer. Usually get Northern on sale or Safeway brand. Neither seem to clog thing much.

The warped primitive:

Warpy  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Wed Mar-12-08 06:54 PM
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2. All of it will break down eventually   but you really want to stay away from the toilet clogging premium stuff, plus any brands that feature dyes and fragrances. Enough of it can overwhelm your system.

I used good old scratch yer butt, 1000 sheets per roll Scott. I still use it because here in the desert with ultra low flow toilets, that this stuff just doesn't go down.

Scott seems like a good compromise between the industrial stuff that really does abrade your pink parts and the toilet clogger brands.

uppityperson  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Wed Mar-12-08 06:58 PM
Response to Reply #2

3. That is the stuff we use too.
   
No scented or extra bitty stuff but it just would be nice to get past "scratch yer butt, 1000 sheets per roll Scott"

napi21  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Wed Mar-12-08 07:00 PM
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4. I've lived in houses with septic systems all my life. We USED to use Scott or whatever other package said "single ply". For the last 2 years, we've been buying our TP from Costco (their brand). It's not only single ply, but fairly soft and disintigrates rapidly when it hits the water. Great price too!

uppityperson  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Wed Mar-12-08 07:14 PM
Response to Reply #4

5. Thanks, I've thought of buying Costco brand, it's softer? that would be nice.

napi21  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Wed Mar-12-08 07:29 PM
Response to Reply #5

9. Yes and not just my opinion. My sil was visiting this summer, and she lives in a VERY EXPENSIVE house on a lake in Va. They have a septic tank too. She came into our LR and said I LOVE IT that Costco TP is so much softer than that grungy stuff we've been using, and it's single ply too! I'm switching to THAT!

pscot  (1000+ posts) Wed Mar-12-08 07:14 PM
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6. Regular use of a garbage disposal puts a lot more stress on the system than any TP. Have it pumped every few years and keep the drain field in good working order and it should be fine.

uppityperson  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Wed Mar-12-08 07:17 PM
Response to Reply #6

7. We have a big dog and a bunch of chickens. No garbage disposal.
   
Just dealing with the tp issue here. Think will try Costco brand single ply next time and see if Mr even notices.

enough  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Wed Mar-12-08 07:29 PM
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8. To be blunt, don't flush the TP unless it is actually soiled.
   
Put the merely wet TP into a bag and burn it. This will cut down drastically on amount of TP the septic system has to handle. We got this advice from a guy who install/services septic systems.

Vincardog  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Wed Mar-12-08 09:37 PM
Response to Reply #8

10. we put all the used TP in a garbage bag and throw it all in the garbage. None in the septic tank.

Ah, memories of the socialist paradises of the workers and peasants, where there's a wastebasket.....

Upton  Donating Member  (931 posts) Mon Mar-17-08 10:03 PM
Response to Reply #10

12. We do the exact same thing
   
The TP was having an annoying habit of clogging up where the wastewater enters the tank.

LWolf  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Mar-13-08 08:14 AM
Response to Original message

11. I use the scotts.
   
I actually prefer it. I don't have to change the rolls as frequently. I've never had a problem with it.

A year ago, I got a house guest. She prefers the soft cushy stuff, and was been using it in the bathroom at the other end of the house. When plunging became a routine activity, I insisted that she use the scotts. No problems since.

hippywife  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Fri Mar-28-08 09:20 PM
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14. We use Angel Soft.
   
Our septic tank was installed 11 years ago. We just had it pumped out for the very first time this past fall. So no problems here with TP. I absolutely hate, hate, hate Scott TP. We got some free and it's kept in the cabinet for emergency need only.

I stopped using the disposal, mostly because we compost everything. And washing laundry a little at a time through the week rather than all at once on the weekends does help, too. Keeps too much water at once from overwhelming the system.

AZDemDist6  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-27-08 05:33 PM
Response to Reply #14

15. that's what we use too, and I've taken your advice on the couple loads of laundry a day instead of all on Sunday

luckily, on an average week we only do 3 loads anyway and I still do the most on Sunday when the electricity is cheaper, but have taken to doing a load or two on Saturdays too

franksolich is intrigued.

Why would electricity be cheaper on Sunday, than on any other day of the week?

Never heard of it.

After which two primitives engage in a heated argument about whether or not septic-tank cleaners are necessary.

[Rebel]

Damn, those idiots will start a discussion about anything, won't they?

[USA4ME]

I wish someone would invent a TP make of poison ivy and market it in an "enviro friendly" package.  I'd gladly spend the money to send every DUmmie a roll.

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[JohnnyReb]

Damn, those idiots will start a discussion about anything, won't they?

Hey, that's dims for you, can't even wipe their butt without a committee meeting.

You know, we've come a long ways from the Sears and Roebuck catalog.

[RobJohnson]

Why would electricity be cheaper on Sunday, than on any other day of the week?

Some cities have different rates for different days/time of day.

[franksolich]

Vincardog  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Wed Mar-12-08 09:37 PM
Response to Reply #8

10. we put all the used TP in a garbage bag and throw it all in the garbage. None in the septic tank.

Someone here just pointed out that if the vicioushound primitive did such a thing in Nebraska, he'd be arrested for posing a peril to public health.

[Rebel]

Vincardog  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Wed Mar-12-08 09:37 PM
Response to Reply #8

10. we put all the used TP in a garbage bag and throw it all in the garbage. None in the septic tank.

Someone here just pointed out that if the vicioushound primitive did such a thing in Nebraska, he'd be arrested for posing a peril to public health.

Upton  Donating Member  (933 posts)
Mon Mar-17-08 10:03 PM
Response to Reply #10
12. We do the exact same thing
   
The TP was having an annoying habit of clogging up where the wastewater enters the tank.

That's f'n nasty as hell. If that fool wants to live that way, we need to one-way ticket his ass to a nature preserve so he can live amongst the other animals. They think it's more environmentally-friendly to have it pile up in a landfill somewhere than it is to send it to a treatment plant?

[Lord Undies]

but you really want to stay away from the toilet clogging premium stuff, plus any brands that feature dyes and fragrances.

You won't find dyed and fragranced toilet paper unless you dye it and spray it with perfume yourself. 

[franksolich]

That's f'n nasty as hell. If that fool wants to live that way, we need to one-way ticket his ass to a nature preserve so he can live amongst the other animals.

I assume the vicioushound primitive is just too cheap or too lazy to have his tank cleaned.

What provoked this reaction from a visitor here was the idea that primitives are ostensibly sensitive to the trials and ordeals of the underclasses, which at least socially includes garbagemen.

The vicioushound primitive surely isn't showing any consideration to the poor guys who pick up his trash.

On my part, while of course I sympathize with the garbagemen, having seen sewage disposal as practiced in the socialist paradises of the workers and peasants with free medical care for all, well, there's a good reason septic tanks were invented, and there's a good reason the law demands that they be used.

[Chris_]

Damn, those idiots will start a discussion about anything, won't they?

Well, Reb, if anyone knows about asswipes, it's the DUmmies. 

[Chris_]

Vincardog  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Wed Mar-12-08 09:37 PM
Response to Reply #8

10. we put all the used TP in a garbage bag and throw it all in the garbage. None in the septic tank.

Someone here just pointed out that if the vicioushound primitive did such a thing in Nebraska, he'd be arrested for posing a peril to public health.

It's done in Mexico in areas where the plumbing isn't so great.  If you see it here, it's a pretty good indicator that there might be illegal aliens working there (or patronizing the place).

[Sonnabend]

Put the merely wet TP into a bag and burn it. This will cut down drastically on amount of TP the septic system has to handle.

..emitting those nasty greenhouse gases.

St Gore is frowning at you.....

[mamacags]

I belong to another board that became overrun with insane liberal moonbat freaks.  I don't post there anymore.  However, they advocated using cloth and a bucket to throw the cloth in.  That way they could wash them and reuse them.  I never ever ever everevereverevereverever want to use anything that has touched someone elses dirty butt.

[Lord Undies]

I belong to another board that became overrun with insane liberal moonbat freaks.  I don't post there anymore.  However, they advocated using cloth and a bucket to throw the cloth in.  That way they could wash them and reuse them.  I never ever ever everevereverevereverever want to use anything that has touched someone elses dirty butt.

Are you sure you have children?  I lost most of my standards for ickyness shortly after becoming a parent. 

[mamacags]

I belong to another board that became overrun with insane liberal moonbat freaks.  I don't post there anymore.  However, they advocated using cloth and a bucket to throw the cloth in.  That way they could wash them and reuse them.  I never ever ever everevereverevereverever want to use anything that has touched someone elses dirty butt.

Are you sure you have children?  I lost most of my standards for ickyness shortly after becoming a parent. 

I have been barfed on, snotted on, peed on, pooped on, used as a napkin, a drinking fountain and an arm warmer for a gyno.  I still refuse to use something that has cleaned someone else's ass.

[Lord Undies]

I belong to another board that became overrun with insane liberal moonbat freaks.  I don't post there anymore.  However, they advocated using cloth and a bucket to throw the cloth in.  That way they could wash them and reuse them.  I never ever ever everevereverevereverever want to use anything that has touched someone elses dirty butt.

Are you sure you have children?  I lost most of my standards for ickyness shortly after becoming a parent. 

I have been barfed on, snotted on, peed on, pooped on, used as a napkin, a drinking fountain and an arm warmer for a gyno.  I still refuse to use something that has cleaned someone else's ass.

I suppose it is important to draw a line. 

[franksolich]

Oh my.

It's really intriguing, seeing what lurking primitives are reading here during the middle of the night.

[67 Rover]

What would Cheryl Crow think? 

[zeitgeist]

Oh my.

It's really intriguing, seeing what lurking primitives are reading here during the middle of the night.

I was intrigued when I saw this as I had a memory of reading something in a similar vein recently.  Went looking and here it is:



Posted for edification and enjoyment of all the thread was located here:



http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3412007/posts

Enjoy.  I have to go eat dinner!

[Big Dog]

Doing my part on this zombie thread...

uppityperson  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Wed Mar-12-08 07:17 PM
Response to Reply #6

7. We have a big dog and a bunch of chickens. No garbage disposal.
   
Just dealing with the tp issue here. Think will try Costco brand single ply next time and see if Mr even notices.

**** you, for feeding your big dog garbage. Just... **** you.

And the chickens are plotting to kill you in your sleep. Thought you should know, DUmbass.

[GOBUCKS]

I'm disappointed the Big Guy (who is dying, but more slowly than expected) hasn't weighed in on this subject.

Who would be more of an authority on toilet paper, after decades of cruising over Omaha's incoming raw sewage in that little catbird seat?

After all those years observing every brand and ply rating up close and personal, he's gotta be a TP connoisseur.

[zeitgeist]

A long time ago ...  I rented a home with a fully operational septic system to four pre-menopausal females.  The whole thing is like a bad dream now and is a mistake I would never make again; however, suffice to say the septic failed in record time.  I was like WTF?  How did this happen?  City folk have no clue about things like septic systems let alone well pumps.  They use way too much water and think you flush everything!  Um no honey, it don't work that way.

Here is a clue:  Shit (and a lots of other products) floats and can clog up the leech field.  A clogged leech field is not a cheap thing.  While water is needed in a septic tank too much water is not a good thing either.  Clothes washing, bubble baths, heck even dishwashers, could be better handled in a dry well separated from the septic system much like a camper utilizes, gray water and black water. 

[VelvetElvis]

For the DUmmies, much ado about nothing, if you ask me.

When the DUmmies and their Democrat overlords complete their surrender of our country to the Islamists, then they can dispense with toilet tissue completely and revel in the joys of doing it Mohammed's way, that is, wiping with the bare left hand.  Septic system problems solved!

With the hygiene level of the average DUmp denizen being what it is, I wonder if they'll even notice?

[RobJohnson]

  While water is needed in a septic tank too much water is not a good thing either.  Clothes washing, bubble baths, heck even dishwashers, could be better handled in a dry well separated from the septic system much like a camper utilizes, gray water and black water. 

Very sound advice.

 Bleach and other detergents can also destroy the natural  system that keeps the waste breakdown process working.

I stopped using Rid-x as my monthly additive after finding better stuff at amazon for less money.

[I_B_Perky]

Well this is a shitty thread.   


Look... someone had to say it and I was elected, ok?