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Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
« on: August 11, 2012, 11:39:18 AM »
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From the wiki article on Ryan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Ryan#Ryan.27s_second_budget_plan

The 2012 Ryan budget also received criticism from elements of the Catholic Church, specifically from the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops and from faculty and administrators of Georgetown University. In its letter to Rep. Ryan, the group of Georgetown faculty and administrators criticized the Ryan budget as trying to "to dismantle government programs and abandon the poor to their own devices," going on to say that Catholic teaching "demands that higher levels of government provide help—"subsidium"—when communities and local governments face problems beyond their means to address such as economic crises, high unemployment, endemic poverty and hunger." The letter also criticizes Ryan for his attempts at "gutting government programs" and states that Ryan is "profoundly misreading Church teaching." A statement issued by the US Conference of Catholic Bishops criticized the Ryan budget in similar terms. Ryan rejected the bishops' criticism that his budget plans would disproportionately cut programs that "serve poor and vulnerable people."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021109392

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Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2012, 11:47:13 AM »
...and from faculty and administrators of Georgetown University.

Bet 99% of that came liberal BS from the liberal professors and not Catholic bishops.
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Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2012, 11:47:25 AM »
Get the fed govt off the backs of state & Local Govts and they may more readily and easily provide for  those in need that can't help themselves.
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Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2012, 01:20:07 PM »
Lose them to who? Obama? His policies have the bishops openly calling for disobedience of the law. Methinks you DUmmies are dreaming on this one.
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Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2012, 01:28:02 PM »
   
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Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote

Not this Catholic.
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Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2012, 01:29:11 PM »
Ryan is catholic. He will gain some. Plus with all this contraception garbage, obama lost a lot of catholics as well.
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Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2012, 01:30:37 PM »
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Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2012, 01:39:29 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on August 11, 2012, 01:30:37 PM
Ditto.

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Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2012, 01:42:15 PM »
Two GOP candidates...clean as a whistle...and this is all the DUmmies can come up with in 12 hours?
Drudge had Ryan pegged last night.

Its one thing when you know the Democrats come out slinging mud right away. Its another when liberals can't even find mud to sling. This is really pathetic. Months of opposition research and liberal pretend Catholics won't support a strong man of faith? Yeah that will sell in the heartland/NOT.


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Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2012, 01:44:22 PM »
Quote from: Mr Mannn on August 11, 2012, 01:42:15 PM
We are so gonna win this.

I am so hoping and praying that it is a major blow out. Watching the great one do down in flames would be awesome.
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Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2012, 01:48:53 PM »
Not this Catholic either. Now let me see, let me add up the Catholics in my immediate Family who'll vote for Romeny/Ryan, I have to get the calculator so I'll be a moment.

Up to 18 so far!

20 so far!
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Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2012, 01:50:04 PM »
Quote from: Ballygrl on August 11, 2012, 01:48:53 PM
Not this Catholic either. Now let me see, let me add up the Catholics in my immediate Family who'll vote for Romeny/Ryan, I have to get the calculator so I'll be a moment.

Up to 18 so far!

20 so far!


How many for Obama?
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Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2012, 01:50:21 PM »
Quote from: Ballygrl on August 11, 2012, 01:48:53 PM
Not this Catholic either. Now let me see, let me add up the Catholics in my immediate Family who'll vote for Romeny/Ryan, I have to get the calculator so I'll be a moment.

Up to 18 so far!





Count this Every Sunday Catholic as a vote for R2!
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Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2012, 01:54:15 PM »
Quote from: Splashdown on August 11, 2012, 01:50:21 PM
Count this Every Sunday Catholic as a vote for R2!

I like that.
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Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2012, 01:54:23 PM »
Quote from: BEG on August 11, 2012, 01:50:04 PM
How many for Obama?

Most likely anywhere from 2-5.
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Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2012, 04:11:27 PM »
Hey berni_mccoy, another Catholic checking in for Romney.  Also, I just got back from www.mittromney.com where I got two Romney bumper stickers, two Romney window decals, and a Romney "R" navy polo.  Oh, I also donated $100.00 to the Romney campaign--can't let the Koch brothers take all the credit.
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Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2012, 04:29:53 PM »
Stupid primitives , putting their faith in anecdotes, quips, and quibbles.

Why would someone who actually is a Roman Catholic lose the Catholic vote ? If anything, Ryan will pull votes from Joe Biden - Who isn't a very good Catholic at all.

There is a new blog post at http://www.catholicvote.org/index.php?/site that does a good job of detailing why Ryan trumps Biden, if one is actually a practicing Catholic. -- Granted, the liberal 'cafeteria' variety might not agree, but the blog post is right on the money.

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Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2012, 04:50:26 PM »
Quote from: miskie on August 11, 2012, 04:29:53 PM
Stupid primitives , putting their faith in anecdotes, quips, and quibbles.

Why would someone who actually is a Roman Catholic lose the Catholic vote ? If anything, Ryan will pull votes from Joe Biden - Who isn't a very good Catholic at all.

There is a new blog post at http://www.catholicvote.org/index.php?/site that does a good job of detailing why Ryan trumps Biden, if one is actually a practicing Catholic. -- Granted, the liberal 'cafeteria' variety might not agree, but the blog post is right on the money.



The Bishops also stepped in it a little when they said Ryan's budget was "morally flawed."
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Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2012, 05:38:06 PM »
Quote from: redwhit on August 11, 2012, 01:28:02 PM
   
Not this Catholic.

Nor this one.

Obama lost the Catholic vote when he told the Catholic Church you WILL offer birth control, you WILL do abortions and you WILL sit down, you WILL shut up, and you WILL vote for me because Romney is a MORMON. When HHS put the beginning tenets of Obamacare in August 1st, Obama lost the Catholic vote. So much, the US Conference of Bishops have gone to Congress to have elements of Obamacare taken out. Obama is going to reap what he has sown..

I can see Ryan offering red meat at the convention, particularly on the dismal performance of Obama/Biden on the economy and Obamacare.

Biden IS toast should there be a debate.
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Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2012, 07:59:57 PM »
Or this Catholic, or my entire family of Irish/Italian Catholics (both sides are going to vote for RSquared, except for one moonbat cousin and her husband), and you can add almost every one of my wife's side of Lutherans and Catholics.  That's a lot of votes.
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Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
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Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2012, 08:30:57 PM »
Quote from: Delmar on August 11, 2012, 04:11:27 PM
Hey berni_mccoy, another Catholic checking in for Romney.  Also, I just got back from www.mittromney.com where I got two Romney bumper stickers, two Romney window decals, and a Romney "R" navy polo.  Oh, I also donated $100.00 to the Romney campaign--can't let the Koch brothers take all the credit.

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Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
« Reply #22 on: August 12, 2012, 12:05:47 AM »
How is it that a woman who says she needs $3,000.000 a year for free birth control gets to be a media star ?
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Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2012, 12:40:22 AM »
These people are lemmings.  They think free birth control/aborti-facients guarantees Obama's re-election?  They didn't notice 9/12, the 2010 sweep, the Scott Walker recall, or the Chick-Fil-A response?  Guess not.  Morons.  :hammer:  How insulting to the Catholic voters.  
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Re: Ryan as VP will lose the Catholic Vote
« Reply #24 on: August 12, 2012, 03:16:14 AM »
Whatever criticisms "elements" of the Catholic Church may have had against the Ryan budget...IMHO disappeared when they were forced by Obama to give out birth control under their health plans and 43 Catholic dioceses sued the Federal Government.
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