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Re: NBC Uses D+11 Poll to Find Obama Up by 6
« Reply #25 on: July 26, 2012, 06:15:25 PM »
LOL...it's just too funny....EVERY poll has a D+ or R+, usually D+ recently because there are MORE democrats in the country today. Just look at the last FOX poll that found Obama up 45/41 even that poll had a D+?. The NBC poll that you are talking about is a RANDOM sampling just like every other talked-about poll that we see...All this means is that of the 1,000 respondents, 46% identified as D vs 35% R....What are they supposed to do, throw out the poll since its not 50/50???? No, thats not what they do, and the final poll of Obama v Romney is not simply calculated by ONE question, that is why there is a margin of error.  The pollsters realize that with a sample of 1,000 people, it is not going to be a 100% accurate of a national sample, but its usually within 3%, and based on the answers of several questions, they determine the final poll numbers, and use such poll statistics such as how many D's vote R and how many R's vote D (usually Republicans are less likely to vote the other way by about 2%).  Just a few other results from that poll:

These results are calculated by averaging a number of questions in the poll:
-By a more than 2 to 1 margin, Bain Capital is viewed negatively.
-Republican Party is in the hole by 9 points.
-Dem. Party is even.
-Tea Party is down 43% to 28%
-Romney down 5, Obama up 6.

And for fairness, results from the last FOX poll:
-62% of independents support raising taxes on the rich vs 31 that oppose
-53% of Independents think Obama deserves to be re-elected vs 39% dont


Watch MSNBC much? I think you do.

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Re: NBC Uses D+11 Poll to Find Obama Up by 6
« Reply #26 on: July 26, 2012, 07:16:24 PM »
LOL...it's just too funny....EVERY poll has a D+ or R+, usually D+ recently because there are MORE democrats in the country today. Just look at the last FOX poll that found Obama up 45/41 even that poll had a D+?. The NBC poll that you are talking about is a RANDOM sampling just like every other talked-about poll that we see...All this means is that of the 1,000 respondents, 46% identified as D vs 35% R....What are they supposed to do, throw out the poll since its not 50/50???? No, thats not what they do, and the final poll of Obama v Romney is not simply calculated by ONE question, that is why there is a margin of error.  The pollsters realize that with a sample of 1,000 people, it is not going to be a 100% accurate of a national sample, but its usually within 3%, and based on the answers of several questions, they determine the final poll numbers, and use such poll statistics such as how many D's vote R and how many R's vote D (usually Republicans are less likely to vote the other way by about 2%).  Just a few other results from that poll:

These results are calculated by averaging a number of questions in the poll:
-By a more than 2 to 1 margin, Bain Capital is viewed negatively.
-Republican Party is in the hole by 9 points.
-Dem. Party is even.
-Tea Party is down 43% to 28%
-Romney down 5, Obama up 6.

And for fairness, results from the last FOX poll:
-62% of independents support raising taxes on the rich vs 31 that oppose
-53% of Independents think Obama deserves to be re-elected vs 39% dont


You clearly have no clue about polls, they are supposed to weight them according to what they think turnout will be.

45% dem is insane for an unweighted poll. 2008 was a HUGE year for dems because of the buzz Obama generated and the eked out 39% to 32% for the GOP. the turnout will likely be similar to 2004 when both parties are at similar enthusiasm levels which was 37% to 37%.
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Re: NBC Uses D+11 Poll to Find Obama Up by 6
« Reply #27 on: July 26, 2012, 07:18:51 PM »
The last time they had a poll this biased was with Carter and Reagan. And we all know how that turned out.

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Re: NBC Uses D+11 Poll to Find Obama Up by 6
« Reply #28 on: July 26, 2012, 07:27:36 PM »
The last time they had a poll this biased was with Carter and Reagan. And we all know how that turned out.

This election is playing out pretty much the same way as it did 32 years ago.
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Re: NBC Uses D+11 Poll to Find Obama Up by 6
« Reply #29 on: July 26, 2012, 07:55:17 PM »
This election is playing out pretty much the same way as it did 32 years ago.

Bingo...

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Re: NBC Uses D+11 Poll to Find Obama Up by 6
« Reply #30 on: July 26, 2012, 08:03:58 PM »
Push polling.
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Re: NBC Uses D+11 Poll to Find Obama Up by 6
« Reply #31 on: July 26, 2012, 08:21:28 PM »
It goes beyond that. Anyone ever read the late Christopher Hitchens', "No One Left To Lie To?"

He nailed it when he said people who PAY for the poll get the results they want. And since news organizations are typically the largest consumers of polling data it would certainly stand to reason that it is in the best interest of the media to SHAPE--not report, SHAPE--the news and help their ratings (and agenda) by putting out polls like these sold as gospel truth.
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