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Sally Ride: did you know?
« on: July 25, 2012, 07:01:03 AM »
Did you know she was gay?

I didn't either and I don't give a ****!  ::)

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In an email today, Sally Ride's sister, Bear Ride, explained why the former astronaut kept quiet about her sexual orientation.

"In her inherent Norwegian reticence — in this and so many aspects of her personal life (wrestling with pancreatic cancer, for example) — she just didn't talk much (see Norwegian comment, and add to that the typical tight-lipped scientist thing)," Bear wrote. "If you read interviews from years and years back, you'll see that there was always a major frustration that she didn't comment much on 'how it feels to be the first American woman in space' — she just didn't think that way. She wanted to get the job done. Her personal feelings were just that: personal. Not right or wrong — simply Sally. Everyone who knows her well really got that about her."

Bear, a gay Presbyterian minister, takes a different approach.

"I'm a rather out-there advocate for LGBT [lesbian-gay-bisexual-transgender] rights — my partner and I have even been arrested a couple of times in public protest!" she told me. "But that's me, and not Sally."

Here's the essay that Bear Ride has been sending around as a tribute to her sister:

    "Sally Ride was the first American woman to go into space and she was my big sister. Sally died peacefully on July 23rd after a courageous 17-month battle with pancreatic cancer.  I was at her side. We grew up in Encino, CA. Our parents, Joyce and Dale Ride, encouraged us to study hard, to do our best and to be anything we wanted to be.  In 1983 Newsweek quoted our father as saying, 'We might have encouraged, but mostly we just let them explore.' Our parents encouraged us to be curious, to keep our minds and hearts open and to respect all persons as children of God. Our parents taught us to explore, and we did. Sally studied science and I went to seminary. She became an astronaut and I was ordained as a Presbyterian minister.

    "Sally lived her life to the fullest with boundless energy, curiosity, intelligence, passion, joy, and love. Her integrity was absolute; her spirit was immeasurable; her approach to life was fearless. Sally died the same way she lived: without fear.  Sally's signature statement was 'Reach for the Stars.' Surely she did this, and she blazed a trail for all the rest of us.

    "My sister was a very private person. Sally had a very fundamental sense of privacy, it was just her nature, because we're Norwegians, through and through. People did not know she had pancreatic cancer, this is bound to be a huge shock. For 17 months, nobody knew, and everyone does now. Her memorial fund is going to be in support of pancreatic cancer.

    "Most people did not know that Sally had a wonderfully loving relationship with Tam O'Shaughnessy for 27 years.  Sally never hid her relationship with Tam. They were partners, business partners in Sally Ride Science, they wrote books together, and Sally's very close friends, of course, knew of their love for each other.  We consider Tam a member of our family.

    "I hope the pancreatic cancer community is going to be absolutely thrilled that there's now this advocate that they didn't know about.  And, I hope the GLBT community feels the same. I hope it makes it easier for kids growing up gay that they know that another one of their heroes was like them."

So she never  announced it for the entire world but after she is dead her gay sister decides to tell everyone?   Disgusting.
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Re: Sally Ride: did you know?
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2012, 07:10:30 AM »
The queer community has no respect/regard for privacy.
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Re: Sally Ride: did you know?
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2012, 07:43:16 AM »
Two gay sisters?

What are the odds of THAT happening?

Makes me question the upbringing of both of 'em.

I'm having serious reservations about the Presbyterian faith in which I worship, with respect to the policy that they embrace -- it's perfectly acceptable for gay ministers to be ordained and to serve in a church.

I have a problem with that policy.

Is there no sanctuary that simply refuses to call attention to one's sexual orientation? Why is it necessary for a faith to accommodate - deliberately - that tiny minority of people who are abnormal vis a vis their sexual practices?

Hey -- get this straight. When I go to church, I go to worship God. I could not care LESS who else in that place is puffing peters or munching carpets. At the same time, I find it offensive to have to adopt a POLICY that singles out those people.

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Re: Sally Ride: did you know?
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2012, 08:44:35 AM »
Quote from: Gina on July 25, 2012, 07:01:03 AM
Did you know she was gay?
I didn't, but now that she's in the news I'm sure someone with an agenda will be sure to remind me repeatedly.
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Re: Sally Ride: did you know?
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2012, 10:06:10 AM »
Quote from: Eupher on July 25, 2012, 07:43:16 AM

I'm having serious reservations about the Presbyterian faith in which I worship, with respect to the policy that they embrace -- it's perfectly acceptable for gay ministers to be ordained and to serve in a church.

I have a problem with that policy.

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Which is why I only go to PCA (Presbyterian Church of America) churches, not PCUSA (Pres. Church USA).   The former split from the latter due to the infringing liberal policies some churches were embracing.  Some people think PCA are too uptight, but it's a perfect fit for me.
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Re: Sally Ride: did you know?
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2012, 10:41:09 AM »
The people that knew are the people she and her partner WANTED to know about them.

Sally's obit - the one she and her partner wrote together - mentioned "partner" without the nitty-gritty details. It was how Sally wanted it.

What her sister is doing...is nothing but cashing in on Sally's death to use for her own agenda.

Sooooo tacky. Not to mention totally disrespectful.

With a sister like that....who needs an enemy?
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Re: Sally Ride: did you know?
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2012, 10:52:26 AM »
Quote from: debk on July 25, 2012, 10:41:09 AM
The people that knew are the people she and her partner WANTED to know about them.

Sally's obit - the one she and her partner wrote together - mentioned "partner" without the nitty-gritty details. It was how Sally wanted it.

What her sister is doing...is nothing but cashing in on Sally's death to use for her own agenda.

Sooooo tacky. Not to mention totally disrespectful.

With a sister like that....who needs an enemy?

A mentally unbalanced radical homosexual sister feasting on the dignity of her famous dead sister?  Tell me it ain't so!
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Re: Sally Ride: did you know?
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2012, 11:05:11 AM »
Quote from: Flame on July 25, 2012, 10:06:10 AM
Which is why I only go to PCA (Presbyterian Church of America) churches, not PCUSA (Pres. Church USA).   The former split from the latter due to the infringing liberal policies some churches were embracing.  Some people think PCA are too uptight, but it's a perfect fit for me.

yes, I'm aware of the difference. This is off-topic a bit, but PCUSA only last year had a fundamental change in the Book of Order that no longer precludes practicing gays from becoming Teaching Elders (pastors).

I'm wrestling with that one. We have a Cumberland Presbyterian Church in my town, but I don't know enough about that church/denomination to make a determination.
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Re: Sally Ride: did you know?
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2012, 11:26:05 AM »
Quote from: Eupher on July 25, 2012, 11:05:11 AM
yes, I'm aware of the difference. This is off-topic a bit, but PCUSA only last year had a fundamental change in the Book of Order that no longer precludes practicing gays from becoming Teaching Elders (pastors).

I'm wrestling with that one. We have a Cumberland Presbyterian Church in my town, but I don't know enough about that church/denomination to make a determination.

Come with me.  I am Methodist  :-*
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Re: Sally Ride: did you know?
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2012, 11:51:06 AM »
Her obituary says she was survived by her partner of 27 years so I don't think the Sister is the 1 who said it, Sally probably approved her partner being mentioned.
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Re: Sally Ride: did you know?
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2012, 12:05:13 PM »
Quote from: Gina on July 25, 2012, 11:26:05 AM
Come with me.  I am Methodist  :-*

Can't really do that. The Methodists are largely centrally controlled, including determining who the pastor is. Don't care for that practice.
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Re: Sally Ride: did you know?
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2012, 12:47:37 PM »
Quote from: Gina on July 25, 2012, 11:26:05 AM
Come with me.  I am Methodist  :-*

What's your method? I'll come with you.  :-*
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Re: Sally Ride: did you know?
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2012, 12:58:45 PM »
A gay preacher? Bear is doing this for her own benefit. I don't agree with gay ministers.

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Re: Sally Ride: did you know?
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2012, 01:18:27 PM »
Not only was Sally Ride the first American female in space she was at the time the youngest person to go to space.
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Re: Sally Ride: did you know?
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2012, 01:21:42 PM »
Quote from: Zeus on July 25, 2012, 01:18:27 PM
Not only was Sally Ride the first American female in space she was at the time the youngest person to go to space.

so she is the youngest lesbian to go into space?
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Re: Sally Ride: did you know?
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2012, 04:00:59 PM »
It doesn't matter . They didn't have to say anything but then again there would have been someone that would have told and against Dr rides wishes as well. That is why it only said "Partner" for 27 years she didn't want anyone to know. All I know or care about her is that she got to be what a lot of kids wish they could be and that is an Astronaut and to go into space. A more select group of people you may not find anywhere and that is what matters and the job that they do for all of us.
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Re: Sally Ride: did you know?
« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2012, 04:02:33 PM »
I didn't know nor did I care.
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Re: Sally Ride: did you know?
« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2012, 04:07:02 PM »
Quote from: CG6468 on July 25, 2012, 04:02:33 PM
I didn't know nor did I care.

I'm with you.  It is however, going to be difficult to watch the DUmpsters slobber over this story.  They have no concept of other people's privacy and dignity.
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Re: Sally Ride: did you know?
« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2012, 04:17:03 PM »
 :rant: :rant: :rant: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl:

Who on earth cares about the sex life of Sally.  I cannot understand why her gay sister decided to out her after her death.

Much care and love needs to be given to her partner for 27 years, Good working partnership and who gives a rats ass what their personal relationship was.   So how does the sister Bear know they Sally was having sex with her partner, was she there in the bedroom ?

Good grief what the Gays will go to to make gay sex normal. Sally was married for 5 years, this does not make her Gay but bisexual.  
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Re: Sally Ride: did you know?
« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2012, 07:44:29 PM »
Bear Ride. Bear...Ride.

I'm getting a mental picture. It ain't pretty.

Hairy Bear. Scary Bear. Hairy Beary, scary Beary. Ride the hairy Bear, ride the scary Bear.

All of a sudden, I'm Dr. friggin' Seuss here.

Gina, I triple-Dog dare you to sing that to your kids!



Oh, yeah. I don't care that Sally Ride was a lesbian. Don't care at all.

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Re: Sally Ride: did you know?
« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2012, 08:07:37 PM »
Doesn't matter to me one bit.
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Re: Sally Ride: did you know?
« Reply #21 on: July 25, 2012, 08:12:33 PM »
The left have to jump on something like this every time just to prove the worth of *gays.

*substitute any of their protected classes that you want.

I don't care about that. It's an individual achievement, the person didn't do it for their  "class". 
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Re: Sally Ride: did you know?
« Reply #22 on: July 25, 2012, 09:08:41 PM »
Who cares?  Not about Sally Ride, but about her sexual orientation?  God Bless, I hate to see all of this nonsense.  People have such disregard for others these days. So much for trying to live with dignity, huh?

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Re: Sally Ride: did you know?
« Reply #23 on: July 25, 2012, 10:47:01 PM »
No way could the LGBLT community let the sleeping dog lie, especially after the death of an iconic figure to so many.
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Re: Sally Ride: did you know?
« Reply #24 on: July 25, 2012, 11:57:04 PM »
RIP, Sally Ride. You had a great life and showed women AND men what a woman could do.

Please pay no attention to the idiots.

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