The failure that is Occupy (not from the DUmp)

[ScubaGuy]

Over the last year the OWSies have provided a lot of entertaining reading, but this is hilarious.  The occupy national gathering decided that their message should be their process.  This is the way the world should be run, true democracy where everyone has an equal voice, nothing is rejected, everyone is right.

200 or so members of the Occupy National Gathering got together and provided their "vision", which happens to be 400 or 500 line items.

And they want to run the world.

I can't post the whole thing but here's some highlights, most aren't a surprise (everything should be free) but some are really off the wall.

Read's like a marxist, schitzophrenic nightmare.

186 free education for all
108 free universal healthcare
106 local food production, community gardens, & permaculture agriculture
104 economic equality
95 localized economies
93 a world where basic needs are met
92 military-industrial complex destroyed; military spending slashed
85 economic system based not on profits, but mutual aid and meeting all human needs
85 housing for all
82 workplace democracy and worker-owned co-ops
79 freedom to live anywhere: no borders, no nations
77 a collective, horizontal, non-hierarchical society
54 anti-capitalism
53 open source technology and skill sharing
49 a living wage
46 100% organic food & agriculture
42 all decisions considered for seven generations in the future
39 peace, nonviolence, no war/death machines; no military; no need for violent conflict or guns
37 drugs decriminalized
33 free healthcare (accessible and state of the art)
33 no GMOs
33 no more debt
31 symbiotic/harmonious relationship with all and everything; delusion of duality (not seeing ourselves and others as separate); mutually beneficial relationship bewteen humans, the earth, and its inhabitants; acting with consideration for the community, world, and everything else
30 end nuclear power and weapons
30 no gender roles; smash gender binary
26 free public transportation
25 environmental justice
22 inherent value of creative expression
19 freedom of knowledge and press
19 radicalized labor unions
19 LGBTQ equality
19 a cap on max income & salaries
18 nature can thrive on its own terms
18 truth in journalism/illegal to lie
17 no more drug war
17 free global internet access
17 fund arts
17 health food
16 do away with all large corporations
16 food and energy are communal commodities and not paper-traded
16 minorities have power and voice (rule by diversity)
16 right to internet technology
16 legalize marijuana
14 no private property; publicly owned non-profit system; no debt
13 all airwaves public
13 free communal daycare
13 no interest rates
13 responsibility, individuals provide for themselves
12 abolish advertisements
12 end corporate existence
12 smash patriarchy and all its apparatuses
12 solar panels on every roof
10 de-commodify the arts and their products
10 doing art, life-giving activities that sustain the community
10 end to intellectual property, such that there is free and open sharing of information
10 end to the earth-moon boundary as limit of human scope; redirect resources from wars to terra-forming mars
10 free energy
10 no bosses
10 no cops
9 animals fed natural diets
9 diversity in voting procedures
9 educate population for political participation
9 equitable distribution of wealth
9 free therapy and emotional and mental healthcare
9 free, equal access to opportunity
9 from each according to his/her assets to each according to his/her needs
9 legalization of hemp
9 love all body types
9 more public restrooms
9 no for-profit banking
9 no mind control (education not programming)
9 no police surveillance
9 no privatization of public utilities
9 no sexual objectification
9 no sub-standard housing (quality housing)
9 no violent sexual crimes
9 personal responsibility  Doesn't this conflict with a few hundred of the others?
9 talking circles
8 accepting a tribal way of living
8 compulsory public service for police
8 freedom to create
8 improv taught in schools
8 mega libraries  (isn't that one called the Internet?)
8 more art
8 more sharing
8 musical sidewalks
8 non-punitive justice system
8 passion as earning a living
8 un-dam the rivers
7 51% worker ownership of all companies
7 common language
7 curved buildings
7 eliminate coercive power eliminate capitalism
7 end pentagon taxation
7 everyone dances
7 free love
7 free museums
7 more sex
7 playful society    (I'd say that goes with the more sex thing)
7 renaissance of amateurs
6 eventual anarchy
6 increasing people’s memory capacity
6 non-Zionist
6 quantum computers
6 no private property
5 abolish private property  ( you'd thing a group that wants to run the world would see that these two are the same thing)
5 equitable distribution of land  (Ok you guys get death valley, all your's free and clear)
5 four couples agree to live together, have one child each, raise all four as their own
5 no curfews   
5 vegetarian diets
5 wet noodle army
4 eliminate income tax   
4 preferential voting
3 disintegration of statutory laws
3 proportional representation
3 randomized representation    (do they want both?)
3 transfer of power from white males to women of color
3 world without television
2 a world without streets
2 end technology                     
2 enforced taxation for all
2 evolution
2 getting off the top of the food chain
2 use technology sooner                  (we're ending it so don't bother)
1 local currencies
1 monetary less system
1 paint the roses red
1 population limited based on science
1 progressive tax
1 rewarded for hard work
1 ruled by wise
1 the federation
1 universal robotic operating systems

  I'm glad they have the answers.

[JohnnyReb]

Over the last year the OWSies have provided a lot of entertaining reading, but this is hilarious.  The occupy national gathering decided that their message should be their process.  This is the way the world should be run, true democracy where everyone has an equal voice, nothing is rejected, everyone is right.

200 or so members of the Occupy National Gathering got together and provided their "vision", which happens to be 400 or 500 line items.

And they want to run the world.

I can't post the whole thing but here's some highlights, most aren't a surprise (everything should be free) but some are really off the wall.

Read's like a marxist, schitzophrenic nightmare.    I'm glad they have the answers.

[thundley4]

100% organic food & agriculture

That would solve the over population problem in oh say one growing season.

[obumazombie]

The first item of the list, also numbered item 186, free education.
A free associates degree is a human right.
Followed by a bachelor's degree.
Followed by a master's degree.
Followed by a PHD, all such degrees are human rights.
Then, if you find that your PHD is not compatible with your lifestyle, any amount of successive PHD's until you find the PHD that fits you perfectly.
All free, all entitled to you as a basic human right.

[EagleKeeper]

Well, if it wasn't obvious before it now becomes painfully obvious. These people are insane, I suppose that they actually released this is good news.

I hope that this is reported on far and wide.

Below are the things that I thought were worth focusing on, at least in my opinion

92 military-industrial complex destroyed; military spending slashed
39 peace, nonviolence, no war/death machines; no military; no need for violent conflict or guns
31 symbiotic/harmonious relationship with all and everything; delusion of duality (not seeing ourselves and others as separate); mutually beneficial relationship bewteen humans, the earth, and its inhabitants; acting with consideration for the community, world, and everything else
30 end nuclear power and weapons
7 common language
9 no sexual objectification
9 no violent sexual crimes

Who do these folkes think get to make the decision on things like war, rape, other crimes...common languages?

Is it the good folkes or the bad actors?

Does a nation maintain a standing army or a police force because they are afraid the home front will separate them from liberty or is it the nation states that promise to make vanish from the face of the earth?

Is it the girl walking down the street or the rapist that makes the call?

[obumazombie]

Funny, because at all the occupoop encampments women were not safe from fellow occupoopers who raped and molested at will.

[USA4ME]

4 eliminate income tax   
2 enforced taxation for all
1 monetary less system
1 progressive tax

No income tax, that's enforced taxation for all, in a monetary less system, with a progressive tax.

OK.   

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[JohnnyReb]

My computer went berserk up the thread and I didn't get to say what I had to say.

So what I want to know is, who asked those idiots for solutions to questions that have already been solved for hundred of years.

[Jasonw560]

Just proof they know nothing about the real world.

[BEG]

I have a headache now.

[diesel driver]

My eyes are bleeding from reading this stupidity.

This is by far the MOST STUPID rambling of incoherent thoughts I have ever experienced, and that INCLUDES the DUmp!  

makes more sense, and is more productive!

[whiffleball]

I've heard so much of that drivel from my husband's family - all of them holding more college degrees than sense.  I don't know what they think all those degrees would be good for in a socialist paradise.

[JohnnyReb]

I've heard so much of that drivel from my husband's family - all of them holding more college degrees than sense.  I don't know what they think all those degrees would be good for in a socialist paradise.

Turnip-puller-upper

[Skul]

What the *bleep* is a "talking circle"? 

[Jasonw560]

What the *bleep* is a "talking circle"? 

Where they all sit around, smoking weed and talking about their feelings without arguing.Maybe sinng a Baez song or two.

[JohnnyReb]

Where they all sit around, smoking weed and talking about their feelings without arguing.Maybe sinng a Baez song or two.

Chrooom buy here... oh lord, Chrooom buy here...oh lord...Oooo....bama's here.........

[Skul]

Where they all sit around, smoking weed and talking about their feelings without arguing.Maybe sinng a Baez song or two.

It's early yet. Need more coffee.

[NHSparky]

End nuclear power?  Fine by me.  Have fun freezing in the dark, assholes.

[JohnnyReb]

End nuclear power?  Fine by me.  Have fun freezing in the dark, assholes.

Back years ago when I went whitewater canoeing every weekend, I used to meet those back to nature, save the environment types in the mountains. Don't dam the rivers, shut down nuclear power plants, stop burning coal etc., etc, the idiots would say. It would be hot and I'd ask them if they left their airconditioner running back home/apartment. The answer was always "Yes, why do you ask?" Then I'd ask why did you leave it on. The answer was usually, "So my house/apartment will be cool when I get home." You can guess where I was leading them and they could too so they usually tried to change the subject to me eating meat and how much more concerned with the hungry of the world they were. How my meat eating was robbing the poor of much needed grain for food....all the while sitting there drinking there grain produced beer and liquor.

Most of those idiots were college educated transplants to the Atlanta, Ga. area. You could see why Atlanta was becoming such a blue shithole. They never stopped to think about where things come from or where their policies would lead.

ETA: Idiots would heat or cool their Homes to the max for a 3-day weekend when they weren't even home.....and then bitch about how much energy cost.
 

[Gina]

paint the roses red?   

[whiffleball]

You could see why Atlanta was becoming such a blue shithole.

The main reason I refused to live in Atlanta or near the garbage pail when we moved to GA.  There were myriad other reasons as well.  DH has to live there during the week, but gets to come home to almost paradise every weekend.   He appreciates it a lot more than I thought he would.

[Gina]

The main reason I refused to live in Atlanta or near the garbage pail when we moved to GA.  There were myriad other reasons as well.  DH has to live there during the week, but gets to come home to almost paradise every weekend.   He appreciates it a lot more than I thought he would.

I hate Atlanta.  The traffic and the drivers are horrific.  I swear there was this one expressway where you would speed up to 55 and then everyone would just slam on their brakes at each ramp.  It was a miserable time and I swore I would never go back.  We were there for Six Flags.

[NHSparky]

Try going to GT.  Neighborhood is a total shithole.

[ADsOutburst]

Just proof they know nothing about the real world.

Hey, when the Occupy Movement issues a demand, you can hardly expect them to be bothered by all the little details of its execution!

[diesel driver]

Hey, when the Occupy Movement issues a demand, you can hardly expect them to be bothered by all the little details of its execution!

It's not the results, it's the thought that counts.   

These idiots (and their professors) need to be left to themselves on a deserted island to implement their "brilliant ideas" on their own. 

OR, we could wall off the Northeast, and southern Kalifornia, since they are already there now.