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The Racist Roots of Gun Control
« on: July 23, 2012, 06:48:46 PM »
Oh-h-h Noes-s-s!

Not 'another' subject on Race!

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The historical record provides compelling evidence that racism underlies gun control laws -- and not in any subtle way. Throughout much of American history, gun control was openly stated as a method for keeping blacks and Hispanics "in their place," and to quiet the racial fears of whites. This paper is intended to provide a brief summary of this unholy alliance of gun control and racism, and to suggest that gun control laws should be regarded as "suspect ideas," analogous to the "suspect classifications" theory of discrimination already part of the American legal system.

The Racist Roots of Gun Control

BTW: Ice-T Defends Gun Rights: "The Last Form Of Defense Against Tyranny"


Ice-T Defends Gun Rights: "The Last Form Of Defense Against Tyranny" | RealClearPolitics
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Re: The Racist Roots of Gun Control
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2012, 07:07:47 PM »
Places with the strictest gun control laws have higher percentages of black people, yet still have very high crime rates involving guns.
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Re: The Racist Roots of Gun Control
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2012, 07:12:27 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on July 23, 2012, 07:07:47 PM
Places with the strictest gun control laws have higher percentages of black people, yet still have very high crime rates involving guns.
Yes, and for that reason, the word gun must be scrutinized heavily as a potential banned word.
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Re: The Racist Roots of Gun Control
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2012, 07:40:58 PM »
You try to ban my use of the word gun and we will be having a few words to say about that.
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Re: The Racist Roots of Gun Control
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2012, 07:42:18 PM »
Quote from: rich_t on July 23, 2012, 07:40:58 PM
You try to ban my use of the word gun and we will be having a few words to say about that.

That's one vote against banning the word gun.
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Re: The Racist Roots of Gun Control
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2012, 07:50:57 PM »
Quote from: obumazombie on July 23, 2012, 07:42:18 PM
That's one vote against banning the word gun.

Both of my dogs and all three of my cats also vote against it.  They are registered as democrats.  I didn't register them.  I think ACORN did.
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Re: The Racist Roots of Gun Control
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2012, 12:46:34 AM »
Quote from: rich_t on July 23, 2012, 07:50:57 PM
Both of my dogs and all three of my cats also vote against it.  They are registered as democrats.  I didn't register them.  I think ACORN did.
Not surprised about the cats, but the dogs...traitors.
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Re: The Racist Roots of Gun Control
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2012, 09:31:22 AM »
Quote from: obumazombie on July 23, 2012, 07:42:18 PM
That's one vote against banning the word gun.

Two.
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Re: The Racist Roots of Gun Control
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2012, 01:18:19 PM »
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Re: The Racist Roots of Gun Control
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2012, 06:07:07 PM »
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Three.

Four.

If Dems can vote more than once then so can I.

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Re: The Racist Roots of Gun Control
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2012, 07:55:20 PM »
Quote from: rich_t on July 24, 2012, 06:07:07 PM
Four.

If Dems can vote more than once then so can I.

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Vote early and often. Can we get a Danglar's readout on this ?
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Re: The Racist Roots of Gun Control
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2012, 08:04:37 PM »
Quote from: rich_t on July 24, 2012, 06:07:07 PM
Four.

If Dems can vote more than once then so can I.

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Five.
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Re: The Racist Roots of Gun Control
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2012, 08:08:57 PM »
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Five.

12.  It's not the votes that count, but who counts the votes.
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Re: The Racist Roots of Gun Control
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2012, 11:29:30 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on July 24, 2012, 08:08:57 PM
12.  It's not the votes that count, but who counts the votes.
Vote early, vote often, vote Democrap. It's the Chicago way.
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Re: The Racist Roots of Gun Control
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2012, 12:45:46 PM »
52. I'm voting for all of my friends, dead or alive, just like blammo.
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Re: The Racist Roots of Gun Control
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2012, 01:04:39 PM »
Quote from: CG6468 on July 25, 2012, 12:45:46 PM
52. I'm voting for all of my friends, dead or alive, just like blammo.
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Re: The Racist Roots of Gun Control
« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2012, 02:01:19 PM »
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Re: The Racist Roots of Gun Control
« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2012, 11:02:22 AM »
I hate to change the subject here but did anyone else read the paper at the link? If you haven't it's well worth the time. It is a bit of a read but it is well written and easy to follow.
This pretty much tells it like it is.

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In much the same way, gun control has historically been a tool of racism, and associated with racist attitudes about black violence. Similarly, many gun control laws impinge on that most fundamental of rights: self-defense. Racism is so intimately tied to the history of gun control in America that we should regard gun control aimed at law-abiding people as a "suspect idea," and require that the courts use the same demanding standards when reviewing the constitutionality of a gun control law, that they would use with respect to a law that discriminated based on race.

Much of what the paper talks about still holds true in the LIBERAL controlled cities throughout the country. Through what could be considered racist gun laws blacks and other minorities are unable to arm themselves and as a result crime runs rampant in many intercity areas. Gangs have taken over and hundreds of innocent citizens are killed annually, caught in the crossfire of gang violence. As we have all seen there has been a pro-gun movement in this country the last few years and if memory serves it's like 49 states that have concealed carry laws now, along with many who have passed still controversial "stand your ground laws" It is way past time for politicians to stop treating minorities like they can't be trusted or like they are somehow second class citizens. If the government treats people badly they are going to act badly.

It shouldn't matter if a person is black, hispanic, white or what ever color, they should not be deprived of their basic right to defend themselves, their families and homes against these murderous thugs that roam our city streets. In my opinion these city governments that have enacted draconian gun laws are in violation of the constitution and are depriving people of their rights and as such should be dealt with accordingly.
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Re: The Racist Roots of Gun Control
« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2012, 11:39:17 AM »
Quote from: Bondai on July 26, 2012, 11:02:22 AM
Much of what the paper talks about still holds true in the LIBERAL controlled cities throughout the country.

Just a thought: Are there any Coservative controlled major cities in the USA?
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Re: The Racist Roots of Gun Control
« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2012, 12:14:41 PM »
Quote from: CG6468 on July 26, 2012, 11:39:17 AM
Just a thought: Are there any Coservative controlled major cities in the USA?

Here's a link. Provo, UT with a population of 105,000 is considered THE most conservative city.

And there's a list of 25 cities.

Surprisingly enough, many of these 25 are in Califunny:

http://alt.coxnewsweb.com/statesman/metro/081205libs.pdf
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Re: The Racist Roots of Gun Control
« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2012, 03:30:37 PM »
Quote from: Eupher on July 26, 2012, 12:14:41 PM
Here's a link. Provo, UT with a population of 105,000 is considered THE most conservative city.

And there's a list of 25 cities.

Surprisingly enough, many of these 25 are in Califunny:

http://alt.coxnewsweb.com/statesman/metro/081205libs.pdf

One must wonder wonder about the true political makeup of the population of those cities. In any case, they don't have the power to even tie the liberal cesspools of San Fagciscokid or Lost Angels, nor of Reno and Lost Wages.
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Re: The Racist Roots of Gun Control
« Reply #21 on: July 26, 2012, 03:58:38 PM »
Quote from: CG6468 on July 26, 2012, 03:30:37 PM
One must wonder wonder about the true political makeup of the population of those cities. In any case, they don't have the power to even tie the liberal cesspools of San Fagciscokid or Lost Angels, nor of Reno and Lost Wages.

Well, Provo (an area I know somewhat) is the location of Brigham Young University, which is, of course, the flagship Mormon university.

As Mormonism - as a religion - is significantly conservative, it makes sense that the city of Provo is too.

But yeah, there ain't no way a city of 105K is going to have the same political impact as Vegas or San Jose.
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Re: The Racist Roots of Gun Control
« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2012, 06:43:46 PM »
Quote from: CG6468 on July 26, 2012, 11:39:17 AM
Just a thought: Are there any Coservative controlled major cities in the USA?

Food for thought huh? It's a good question and it's sad that I don't have an answer and will have to do some research to find out. Ask me about LIBERAL cities and I could probably name half a dozen. Pretty scary when you think about it.
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Re: The Racist Roots of Gun Control
« Reply #23 on: July 26, 2012, 10:24:00 PM »
Quote from: Bondai on July 26, 2012, 06:43:46 PM
Food for thought huh? It's a good question and it's sad that I don't have an answer and will have to do some research to find out. Ask me about LIBERAL cities and I could probably name half a dozen. Pretty scary when you think about it.

Check the link I provided above. It's both both conservative and liberal cities - the top 25 of each.
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Re: The Racist Roots of Gun Control
« Reply #24 on: July 26, 2012, 10:29:11 PM »
Surprised Austin wasn't on the freaky list.

Lubbock...not surprising at all. Or Abilene.
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