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Offline thundley4

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People see through the bullshit, dems could lose in November.
« on: July 18, 2012, 07:27:03 PM »
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Of course dems could lose in November

Of course the repulsive Mitt could win the Presidency. It's sticking your head in the sand to deny that those are distinct possibilities. We do not have a well informed electorate. People are fickle. Race is an ugly but real piece of this whole thing. The media wants a horse race. Republicans are doing everything they can to disenfranchise dem leaning voters. And Mitt is going to have a significant $$$ advantage.

Yeah, Mitt's had a lousy past 10 days but so far the polls don't reflect any damage to him- and that includes dem leading polls like PPP which just issued a poll for NM showing the President losing a lot of ground to Mitt and the same thing is reflected in a WMUR poll out of NH.

Now you can just call all polls you don't like bullshit, but that's not going to change reality.

Republicans could win it all in November and we're going to have to fight like hell to prevent it.
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1. And of course we can't assume that election fraud won't play a huge role

in this election, as it did in 2000 and 2004.

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2. You are right

And I think that PTB democrats are to blame for allowing the rePIGs to regain their footings after the 2008 election. The economy is going to be a big drag on the democrats since I don't think that Federal Reserve will do anything to help the economy which will be against the will of the rePIGs. The only way will for Obama to win will be the slug-fest that we presently seeing. The Obama team better have a bag full of issues to throw out into the arena.

Why not suggest that Obama start pointing out his "stellar" record of accomplishments?

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4. Possible, but Mitt winning is unlikely


Any electoral map shows President Obama with a huge advantage. I don't see Rmoney being a strong enough candidate to overcome that disadvantage.


Unless some event beyond our control becomes an overwhelming factor, Greece collapsing or an attack on Iran by Israel, President Obama should be able to reach 270.

Greece collapsing is a given, a matter of when, not if.  Let's go Bibi, show Obama how a real "warrior" reacts to national threats.

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5. Repeat after me - If we don't have a landslide we loose

Between the rigged machines and the massive disenfranchisement - purging, Photo IDs, less time for voting, etc. if we are not ahead by more then 4 points- possibly 5- we loose.

And I am still not convinced yet that the number of people who hate President Obama that will vote for whomever the candidate is actually less then the number who are either in support of Obama or are on the fence enough to vote for him anyway, knowing what a dick Romney is. I worry that the Obama haters are so fired up and that we lost a ton of momentum from 08 due to a variety of reasons (disappointment, lack of interest, frustration, etc.).

So yes you are correct. There is still a very good chance that Romney will be the next president.
It's time for all hand on deck.


Without the illegal votes, Obama is toast.
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Re: People see through the bullshit, dems could lose in November.
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2012, 07:31:58 PM »
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Re: People see through the bullshit, dems could lose in November.
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2012, 07:39:54 PM »
Drudge has a CBS/NYT poll link on their page which has Romney up 1, 47-46.
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Re: People see through the bullshit, dems could lose in November.
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2012, 07:46:42 PM »
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1. And of course we can't assume that election fraud won't play a huge role

in this election, as it did in 2000 and 2004.

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Re: People see through the bullshit, dems could lose in November.
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2012, 07:49:57 PM »
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Yeah, Mitt's had a lousy past 10 days but so far the polls don't reflect any damage to him- and that includes dem leading polls like PPP which just issued a poll for NM showing the President losing a lot of ground to Mitt and the same thing is reflected in a WMUR poll out of NH.

Sort of sucks when bullshit attacks don`t work isn`t it?

The fact is that way too early O has thrown in the kitchen sink and stupidly,he has basically told voters there is no reason to vote for me other then I am saying the other guy is a poopy head.

He is in deep trouble and knows it.
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Re: People see through the bullshit, dems could lose in November.
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2012, 07:51:53 PM »
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1. And of course we can't assume that election fraud won't play a huge role

in this election, as it did in 2000 and 2004.

And it didn't in 2008? Does Acorn ring bell? How about Miss Piggy, Kermit the Frog, Mickey Mouse, dead people and family pets? You stupid doucebag.
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Re: People see through the bullshit, dems could lose in November.
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Re: People see through the bullshit, dems could lose in November.
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Re: People see through the bullshit, dems could lose in November.
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2012, 08:05:51 PM »
Quote from: Carl on July 18, 2012, 07:49:57 PM
Sort of sucks when bullshit attacks don`t work isn`t it?

The fact is that way too early O has thrown in the kitchen sink and stupidly,he has basically told voters there is no reason to vote for me other then I am saying the other guy is a poopy head.

He is in deep trouble and knows it.
Hi5. That struck me too.
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Re: People see through the bullshit, dems could lose in November.
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2012, 08:13:44 PM »
Quote from: Carl on July 18, 2012, 07:49:57 PM
Sort of sucks when bullshit attacks don`t work isn`t it?

The fact is that way too early O has thrown in the kitchen sink and stupidly,he has basically told voters there is no reason to vote for me other then I am saying the other guy is a poopy head.

He is in deep trouble and knows it.

He's going to end up shooting his whole wad before Oct.

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Re: People see through the bullshit, dems could lose in November.
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2012, 09:00:06 PM »
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He's going to end up shooting his whole wad before Oct.

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Try the convention.  He's gonna stand there at Bank of America, whoops--PANTHERS Field, foam rubber Roman columns and all, and say, "**** it.  I got nuthin."

Well, there's gonna be about 4000 "me, my, I's" in there, and it'll drone on for about an hour and a half, but you get the idea.
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Re: People see through the bullshit, dems could lose in November.
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2012, 09:01:48 PM »
I hope they don't forget the Greek columns this time. :hyper:
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Re: People see through the bullshit, dems could lose in November.
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2012, 09:44:01 PM »
Bill O'reilly is going to have the poll comparison between Carter and Reagan for around this time tomorrow evening on his show. If my memory serves me right, which I was pretty young at the time. Carter was ahead in the polls?
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Re: People see through the bullshit, dems could lose in November.
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2012, 09:48:53 PM »
OP talked about a horserace, hu? Well my money's on "Mittens." I wouldn't pick "Big Ears" to save my life. I'll even go out on a limb, and say he'll win by a massive margin.

Make no mistake DUmmies, he may be called "Mittens" in your world, but it will be PRESIDENT Mittens to you come November.

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Re: People see through the bullshit, dems could lose in November.
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2012, 09:56:12 PM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on July 18, 2012, 07:39:54 PM
Drudge has a CBS/NYT poll link on their page which has Romney up 1, 47-46.

Yep and that was with +6 democrat party advantage. Reminder donks ended the wave of 08 at +7.

The 0bama negative ads against Romney started last night in KALIFORNIA!  This is July 18th and 0bama is spending money on ads out here in the solid moonbat state of kalifornia. The internals must look awful. Still sticking with Romney 356/182 and 54/45.  What was purple will be red. What was light blue will be red. What was deep blue will be purple. It will be a great Tuesday night.
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Re: People see through the bullshit, dems could lose in November.
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2012, 11:20:31 PM »
The polsters & the press have to keep it neck & neck as long as possible to keep the money coming in.  Nothing has changed for the better for Dems. since 2010.  It's neat to watch it starting to sink in at the DUmp.  Lots of delicious pain to feed on over the next 5-6 months.
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Re: People see through the bullshit, dems could lose in November.
« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2012, 04:59:28 AM »
Folks have been calling Barry's administration the "Carter II" presidency, due to the similarities and results from his economic policies.

His re-election campaign will have similar results as well.   :lmao:

November is going to be FUn!   :lmao:

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Re: People see through the bullshit, dems could lose in November.
« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2012, 06:28:05 AM »
With all these rigged voting machines everywhere, how are ANY democrats in office?  Come one people, get with the program.   
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Re: People see through the bullshit, dems could lose in November.
« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2012, 07:08:41 AM »
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Re: People see through the bullshit, dems could lose in November.
« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2012, 09:53:16 AM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on July 18, 2012, 07:39:54 PM
Drudge has a CBS/NYT poll link on their page which has Romney up 1, 47-46.

The important thing is that this one, I believe, is a "Likely voters" poll, not just a "Registered voters" poll like the ones showing Obama with a lead.  There's all the difference in the world between the two.
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Re: People see through the bullshit, dems could lose in November.
« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2012, 12:43:06 PM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on July 19, 2012, 09:53:16 AM
The important thing is that this one, I believe, is a "Likely voters" poll, not just a "Registered voters" poll like the ones showing Obama with a lead.  There's all the difference in the world between the two.

Yeah there is. Newt was on Jay Leno last night and even he said that the polls that are showing obama ahead are from likely voters (He said that they are people who probably won't vote). So we will have to see what happens.
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Re: People see through the bullshit, dems could lose in November.
« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2012, 02:45:27 PM »
Quote from: Kyle Ricky on July 19, 2012, 12:43:06 PM
Yeah there is. Newt was on Jay Leno last night and even he said that the polls that are showing obama ahead are from likely voters (He said that they are people who probably won't vote). So we will have to see what happens.

You mean "registered voters," right, Kyle? :???:
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Re: People see through the bullshit, dems could lose in November.
« Reply #22 on: July 19, 2012, 02:49:15 PM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on July 19, 2012, 02:45:27 PM
You mean "registered voters," right, Kyle? :???:

The samples are also heavily slanted blue/independent in most polls.
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Re: People see through the bullshit, dems could lose in November.
« Reply #23 on: July 19, 2012, 07:20:15 PM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on July 19, 2012, 02:45:27 PM
You mean "registered voters," right, Kyle? :???:

No, he said likely. Meaning people who could vote, but from what he said wouldn't. He said that the registered voters poll has them tied. Unless I misunderstood what he said, which is quite possible.

I did some more looking last night for the comparison between now and 1980. The polls then were way off. So I am not following anymore polls this year until after the elections. As they could be way off as well.
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Re: People see through the bullshit, dems could lose in November.
« Reply #24 on: July 19, 2012, 07:46:15 PM »
Quote from: Kyle Ricky on July 19, 2012, 07:20:15 PM
I did some more looking last night for the comparison between now and 1980. The polls then were way off. So I am not following anymore polls this year until after the elections. As they could be way off as well.

That's a guarantee. Take any poll and look at the percentages of Democrats, Republicans, and Independents polled. They are all wrong on their numbers. Out of them all, Rasmussen seems to have the closest to the correct percentages.

And unlike primitives will tell you, Rasmussen isn't a Republican - He was a Democrat, but now claims he is an Independent voter because he really doesn't trust any politician, conservative or liberal -which I believe is the secret to his success- he carries water for nobody.
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