Author Topic: States should sue republicanist-businesses leaving the state for lower taxes (Read 13217 times)

Freeper · « **on:** July 10, 2012, 08:08:41 PM »

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BanTheGOP (786 posts)

States should sue republicanist-businesses leaving the state for lower taxes

Due to the recession 100% caused through republican-induced policies, many states have taken to enacting some much-needed taxation on rich business owners so they can redistribute funds to desperately-needed programs and services. Unfortunately, these businesses don't have ANY interest in their duty to ensure their workers' jobs as well as pride in their community, by leaving to go to red states who are criminally lax in their taxation policies. For instance, in California, 10 businesses a week leave state, taking their riches and their favorite workers and leaving everyone else to suffer in the unemployment line.

This problem encompasses far more than just moving: Businesses use relocation to get rid of minority workers before they can be promoted; they utilize a whole bunch of loopholes hidden in the codes for moving, and even are able to defer their tax payments past the normal quarterly reporting/payment periods! Couple it with states like Texas, using crony GOP criminal capitalists giving incentives to people to move to states without taxes (their minorities are SUFFERING GREATLY), also giving them more clout in screwing the US Government which hurts the losing states from any residual programs that come from population amount.

What I propose is that a business be required to pay an exit tax commensurate with the damage they inflict. For instance, by taking away workers they would also have to pay an extra fee, and if they have to lay off people, they would pay more in addition to unemployment. These fees are to be given to the principle business owner, so if he leaves state, then the fees are still due.

The bottom line is that we can NOT afford to let these business criminals leave without paying a penalty for the damage they inflict by lowering our tax base, essentially taking their ball and going home leaving us in the lurch. These republican bastards need to be put on notice that such conduct will no longer go unpunished.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002928392

You want to steal their money and they are the criminals?

If you bothered to think for a second, you would realize that you just admitted that when states raise taxes they lose businesses, so how in the world will higher taxes create jobs? People don't go into business in order to pay for your freebies, they go into business to provide goods or services and make a profit while doing so.

Duke Nukum · « **Reply #1 on:** July 10, 2012, 08:12:19 PM »

Conservatives look at reality, assess it, and deal with it.

Liberals look at reality and retreat into the shell of "Should be."

No matter how much you bang your head against the wall of "how things should be," Ban, reality is still real and "should be" is still a fantasy. Unless you have the ability to honestly assess reality, you cannot modify it.

thundley4 · « **Reply #2 on:** July 10, 2012, 08:12:39 PM »

DUmmies truly think that businesses should exist only to serve the public good, their employees, and the governing taxing bodies. That is why so many advocate the government taking over businesses and giving control to the workers and leaving the legitimate owners out in the cold.

It has worked so well for GM, so far.

Airwolf · « **Reply #3 on:** July 10, 2012, 08:29:52 PM »

I suggest we return the favor and seize the bank accounts of the Kennedys and Kerrys and Schumers and Pelosi if this happenes.

EagleKeeper · « **Reply #4 on:** July 10, 2012, 08:33:31 PM »

So I have to wonder how the DUmmies rationalize Stockton, San Jose and now Scranton.

A little further down the road how will they spin the evacuation from France.

They want to tax everything and then can't understand why a business would bail to another state, so what is their inevitable answer...another tax.

DUmmies just do not understand what it is that creates a business, or rather they lament the fact that they cannot get rich off of the back of a business so they try to relieve (steal from) that company that which they do not deserve through their own sweat equity.

edit: I just noticed that BTG post has gone 39 minutes without a reply, maybe their is hope...no that can't be it, they don't learn from their mistakes evar.

NHSparky · « **Reply #5 on:** July 10, 2012, 08:49:54 PM »

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For instance, in California, 10 businesses a week leave state, taking their riches and their favorite workers and leaving everyone else to suffer in the unemployment line.

Ban--dipshit--ye of the one post and run away ri-tard...you just invalidated your own argument with that one sentence I quoted.

Since WHEN has CA been conservative? WHY would someone want to leave a liberal haven like California? Or, could it possibly be it's DEMOCRAT/LIBERAL policies which drive out companies?

Do you realize just how much it costs ANY company to relocate, even within state?

A line I read in the OC Register a while back when times were good summed it up pretty well--lose 10,000 day laborers and nobody will care. Lose one dot-com millionaire, and it's going to HURT. Well, you and your policies are driving those folks out of CA, NY, NJ, MD, etc., in droves.

Sucks to be you.

Bad Dog · « **Reply #6 on:** July 10, 2012, 08:53:21 PM »

Quote from: thundley4 on July 10, 2012, 08:12:39 PM

It has worked so well for GM, so far.

I just saw a "news" story that GM's sales were up 17% last quarter. Mentioned way down in the story was that the govt. was the buyer.

Meanwhile, their stock is down to $20 from $32 where the taxpayer bought it.

Jasonw560 · « **Reply #7 on:** July 10, 2012, 09:05:37 PM »

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like Texas, using crony GOP criminal capitalists giving incentives to people to move to states without taxes (their minorities are SUFFERING GREATLY)

We have, 35 miles from me, on the border of Texas, the city with the most people per capita on welfarein the country. 40%. Now, it's not from businesses moving to places without taxes. In fact, our city and county leaders are doing what they can to bring businesses in, and doing a great job at it.

These people are on welfare because of the policies of YOUR side. Decades of being told by racist organizations like LULAC and La Raza Unida, "don't worry, the government's here to take care of you."

Many of then get healthcare, food, housing, all free (to them, but not to us who pay taxes). We have people abusing the system, and a government looking the other way. They may live in a house as big as many of our living rooms, but because they live under the poverty level (and aren't taxed, thanks to a progressive tax system), they sure as hell have their iPhones, Coach purses, Cadillacs, and gold jewelry. And LOTS of kids. In fact, the more kids they have, the more assistance they get. They have no incentive to work. Suffering? Hardly.

Kyle Ricky · « **Reply #8 on:** July 10, 2012, 09:10:51 PM »

If the state is going to charge out the nose for taxes, then the businesses have every right to leave the state. It happens all the time. BantheGOP is just trying to be a jackass.

thundley4 · « **Reply #9 on:** July 10, 2012, 09:12:27 PM »

Quote from: NHSparky on July 10, 2012, 08:49:54 PM

A line I read in the OC Register a while back when times were good summed it up pretty well--lose 10,000 day laborers and nobody will care. Lose one dot-com millionaire, and it's going to HURT. Well, you and your policies are driving those folks out of CA, NY, NJ, MD, etc., in droves.

Sucks to be you.

But California is making it so much easier for the illegals to live there.

Quote from: Bad Dog on July 10, 2012, 08:53:21 PM

I just saw a "news" story that GM's sales were up 17% last quarter. Mentioned way down in the story was that the govt. was the buyer.

Meanwhile, their stock is down to $20 from $32 where the taxpayer bought it.

I've also seen where most of their increased production has been overseas.

USA4ME · « **Reply #10 on:** July 10, 2012, 09:31:04 PM »

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BanTheGOP

... by leaving to go to red states who are criminally lax in their taxation policies.

Got that? States whose tax rates are too low are "criminal."

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What I propose is...

Nobody with more than a single brain cell *cares* what you propose. Got it?

..... freaking idiot.........

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Mr Mannn · « **Reply #11 on:** July 10, 2012, 09:38:25 PM »

I am expecting Disneyland to leave California at some point.

Duke Nukum · « **Reply #12 on:** July 10, 2012, 09:40:08 PM »

I interrupt this thread to pay tribute to Ban the GOP who signed up here, started a thread, and then bravely turned his tail and fled.
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He's one to talk about businesses fleeing the horrors of liberalism. Ban the GOP wasn't even brave enough to put his ideals to debate.

Airwolf · « **Reply #13 on:** July 10, 2012, 09:49:19 PM »

And to add to the thread,It seems another Democratically controlled city is lookung at loosing more businesses. I wonder where OmahaSteve is on this since its His employer involved with this and they may have to cut back on emplyees.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/48142398/ns/local_news-omaha_ne/

Several area businesses say they may have no other choice but to move because of rising sewer fees in Omaha.

The business that comprise SaveOmahaJobs.org said increased sewer fees they're paying as part of a federally mandated overhaul have them at a breaking point.

The group claims 4,000 jobs are directly at stake.

The city estimates the overhaul will cost $2 billion. The 19 largest water users in Omaha -- most of which are members of the business group -- have to collectively pay about $100 million of that.

Kyle Ricky · « **Reply #14 on:** July 10, 2012, 10:07:40 PM »

The reason BanTheGop was here made a thread and left is because he knows he is full of shit.

jukin · « **Reply #15 on:** July 10, 2012, 10:19:08 PM »

Here in PDRoK (Peoples Democratic Republic of Kalifornia) n my town we had the largest mortgage insurance company in the world based here. This was a pretty much ZERO ecological business that they love here. Contributed huge amounts of out of state revenues and taxes to city, county, and state. The owner of the company told me that he went to the so called leaders of the city, county, and state and told them he needed some tax and regulation relief from the governments or he would have to move to Florida. To a person they told him "Dear Sir, kindly go **** yourself. We don't need you or your company." The first year savings after the move was $32 million. He was asking for a fraction of that in relief. So off the company went taking all their high earners and out of state revenues with them. The company was able to increase their business and hire lots of Floridians.

The response from the so called leaders of the city, county, and state was that they were evil and traitors for leaving the area. Big-gov totalitarians just don't get it. The fact is that they are completely inflexible and will not tolerate anything but complete surrender to consider negotiations fair.

dandi · « **Reply #16 on:** July 10, 2012, 11:03:50 PM »

More evidence that moonbats believe all earnings belong to the state - anything you get to keep is by their good graces alone.

Zeus · « **Reply #17 on:** July 10, 2012, 11:21:38 PM »

We Still have a group of folks around here that bristle at the idea of offering interested companies tax abatements. They just can't seem to understand 20% of something is always greater than 100% of nothing.

thundley4 · « **Reply #18 on:** July 10, 2012, 11:38:51 PM »

Quote from: Zeus on July 10, 2012, 11:21:38 PM

We Still have a group of folks around here that bristle at the idea of offering interested companies tax abatements. They just can't seem to understand 20% of something is always greater than 100% of nothing.

Yep. People complained here when governor Quinn backed down and gave some companies tax breaks to stay in Illinois after he jacked up taxes by 66% on everyone else.

obumazombie · « **Reply #19 on:** July 10, 2012, 11:40:46 PM »

Why are so many of you gringos inhabiting Aztlan ?

WinOne4TheGipper · « **Reply #20 on:** July 10, 2012, 11:40:58 PM »

Quote from: Freeper on July 10, 2012, 08:08:41 PM

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002928392

You want to steal their money and they are the criminals?

If you bothered to think for a second, you would realize that you just admitted that when states raise taxes they lose businesses, so how in the world will higher taxes create jobs? People don't go into business in order to pay for your freebies, they go into business to provide goods or services and make a profit while doing so.

Somebody's mole is trying for DOTY. Whoever BTG is, I want you to know that I will not vote for a mole for DOTY.

98ZJUSMC · « **Reply #21 on:** July 11, 2012, 04:05:56 AM »

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BanTheGOP (786 posts)

States should sue republicanist-businesses leaving the state for lower taxes

Due to the recession 100% caused through republican-induced policies,

Well, that was quick. 1 sentence and the DUllard zooms off the rails. Please continue.

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many states have taken to enacting some much-needed taxation on rich business owners so they can redistribute funds to desperately-needed programs and services.

They just cannot not use that term. I honestly think their pathetic little Johnsons get stiff when they type it. Jeez.

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Unfortunately, these businesses don't have ANY interest in their duty to ensure their workers' jobs as well as pride in their community, by leaving to go to red states who are criminally lax in their taxation policies.

A business is in business to turn a profit and continue to employ people, DUllard. That is in the interest of the community you jackstick.

...and those would be the red states that have lower unemployment and still dropping, in spite of, President Training Wheels and his magic bag of beans, right? OK, just checkin'. Please, go on....

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For instance, in California, 10 businesses a week leave state, taking their riches and their favorite workers and leaving everyone else to suffer in the unemployment line.

And that tells you..........?

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This problem encompasses far more than just moving: Businesses use relocation to get rid of minority workers before they can be promoted; they utilize a whole bunch of loopholes hidden in the codes for moving, and even are able to defer their tax payments past the normal quarterly reporting/payment periods! Couple it with states like Texas, using crony GOP criminal capitalists giving incentives to people to move to states without taxes (their minorities are SUFFERING GREATLY), also giving them more clout in screwing the US Government which hurts the losing states from any residual programs that come from population amount.

Residual programs that come from....... population amount?!?!?!?

What in the

are you talking about?

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What I propose is that a business be required to pay an exit tax commensurate with the damage they inflict. For instance, by taking away workers they would also have to pay an extra fee, and if they have to lay off people, they would pay more in addition to unemployment. These fees are to be given to the principle business owner, so if he leaves state, then the fees are still due.

Businesses have to pay exit fees to.....themselves? ......and it's principal, numbnuts. So they pay a fee to themselves (determined by?) and keep it and then they can invest it? Hey thanks, DUllard.

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The bottom line is that we can NOT afford to let these business criminals leave without paying a penalty for the damage they inflict by lowering our tax base, essentially taking their ball and going home leaving us in the lurch. These republican bastards need to be put on notice that such conduct will no longer go unpunished.

But, they're evil. You hate them. Leaving would make you happy, no? Companies are under no contractual obligation to do business where they are...... well, unless you're Boeing, right? Yeah, go ahead and implement that Mr. Himmler.

I should know the answer to this, but where do these drooling infants come up with this

98ZJUSMC · « **Reply #22 on:** July 11, 2012, 04:08:41 AM »

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The response from the so called leaders of the city, county, and state was that they were evil and traitors for leaving the area. Big-gov totalitarians just don't get it. The fact is that they are completely inflexible and will not tolerate anything but complete surrender to consider negotiations fair

Like the petulant adolescents that they are.

98ZJUSMC · « **Reply #23 on:** July 11, 2012, 04:11:31 AM »

Quote from: thundley4 on July 10, 2012, 11:38:51 PM

Yep. People complained here when governor Quinn backed down and gave some companies tax breaks to stay in Illinois after he jacked up taxes by 66% on everyone else.

Quinn has got to go.

I know, I know.....

Good luck with that. This state is truly

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Mr Mannn · « **Reply #24 on:** July 11, 2012, 05:38:18 AM »

You would think that good little socialists would WANT companies to leave. A socialist govt provides for everything for the people, jobs included.

News:

Author Topic: States should sue republicanist-businesses leaving the state for lower taxes (Read 13217 times)