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Breaking - DOJ told Congress that they will not prosecute Eric Holder

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**** You Issa!

**** you ReTHUGs!

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http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002879208

Gee what a shock, Holder's agency won't prosecute Holder.  :whatever:

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4. This was expected

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/06/29/156002660/justice-will-not-prosecute-holder-for-contempt-of-congress
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The United States Justice Department said it will not prosecute Attorney General Eric Holder for contempt of Congress.

"The Department has determined that the Attorney General's response to the subpoena issued by the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform does not constitute a crime, and therefore the Department will not bring the congressional contempt citation before a grand jury or take any other action to prosecute the Attorney General," the Deputy Attorney General told House Speaker John Boehner in a letter.

As we reported, the House voted that Holder was in contempt of Congress for failing to turn over documents related to the gun-walking operation "Fast and Furious." The White House has claimed executive privilege on the emails and documents, saying they show internal deliberation after the program became public.

The AP reports that this means Holder's own department will do nothing further on matter.
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Issa also knew that his witch hunt was going nowhere.   

Ohh this so called witch hunt has shown the American people how corrupt this administration is. Holder had the nerve to prosecute Clemmons for lying to congress when he has lied several times to congress himself. Now in order to protect his sorry ass, he gets his buddy Barry to claim EP. Just how much power do these clowns have to abuse before you idiots catch on?

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Ohh this so called witch hunt has shown the American people how corrupt this administration is.

Yep.  Makes a great case for an independent counsel, too.

ETA - I would love to hear the Romney camp, especially Mitt himself, come out and say he'll turn over everything if elected in the name of accountability, and let the chips fall where they may.
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Gee, it's too bad they passed "civil" contempt yesterday too. And I'm assuming Issa can shop the court to bring it in.  I might suggest the judge that threw out Holdem's restraining order on FL yesterday.

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DUmbasses.

If they weren't so full of piss,vinegar, and self-importance, they would have realized that they could have weakly prosecuted Holder and he would have not been guilty of anything. Now Issa gets to find the nastiest lawyer on the planet to go after Holder instead.

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Darrell Issa Puts Details of Secret Wiretap Applications in Congressional Record
By Jonathan Strong
Roll Call Staff
June 29, 2012, 12:06 p.m.

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The wiretap applications are under court seal, and releasing such information to the public would ordinarily be illegal. But Issa appears to be protected by the Speech or Debate Clause in the Constitution, which offers immunity for Congressional speech, especially on a chamber’s floor.

According to the letter, the wiretap applications contained a startling amount of detail about the operation, which would have tipped off anyone who read them closely about what tactics were being used.

Holder and Cummings have both maintained that the wiretap applications did not contain such details and that the applications were reviewed narrowly for probable cause, not for whether any investigatory tactics contained followed Justice Department policy.

The wiretap applications were signed by senior DOJ officials in the department’s criminal division, including Deputy Assistant Attorney General Jason Weinstein, Deputy Assistant Attorney General Kenneth Blanco and another official who is now deceased.

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The tactic, which was intended to allow agents to track criminal networks by finding the guns at crime scenes [???], was condemned after two guns that were part of the operation were found at U.S. Border Patrol agent Brian Terry’s murder scene.

What? That's the first I've seen it reported, as a fact, that the intent was actually murder -- that they'd track the guns via their appearance at murders (and other crime scenes).

Is that now established?

How do you track guns without tracking them? A: Apparently you just wait until they're used to kill people, then you know where they ended up.

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/330587.php

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You're president, by his invoking EP,  has admitted to the facilitation of the murdering of Mexican civilians and US LEOs for an anti-constitutional policy gambit.
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DUmbasses.

If they weren't so full of piss,vinegar, and self-importance, they would have realized that they could have weakly prosecuted Holder and he would have not been guilty of anything. Now Issa gets to find the nastiest lawyer on the planet to go after Holder instead.

Might I be so bold as to suggest Levin.

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DUmbasses.

If they weren't so full of piss,vinegar, and self-importance, they would have realized that they could have weakly prosecuted Holder and he would have not been guilty of anything. Now Issa gets to find the nastiest lawyer on the planet to go after Holder instead.

Reading their thread, they don't get that yet.  That would be thinking past square one. 

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The fox is lying on a get bed of chicken feathers and we ask him to investigate "The Great Chicken Massacre".....that's smart. :whatever:
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The fox is lying on a get bed of chicken feathers and we ask him to investigate "The Great Chicken Massacre".....that's smart. :whatever:

They are also investigating the leaks if I recall correctly, yeah no corruption here.  :whatever:
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Re: Breaking - DOJ told Congress that they will not prosecute Eric Holder
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2012, 04:00:56 PM »
The fox is lying on a get bed of chicken feathers and we ask him to investigate "The Great Chicken Massacre".....that's smart. :whatever:

I believe Issa & co. expected that response. So, now he has license to seek independent investigations which will most likely lead to an independent prosecutor.

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Re: Breaking - DOJ told Congress that they will not prosecute Eric Holder
« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2012, 04:04:19 PM »
I believe Issa & co. expected that response. So, now he has license to seek independent investigations which will most likely lead to an independent prosecutor.

No doubt that Issa knew the DOJ wasn't going to prosecute their boss, hell even if they get an IP 0bama will just pardon him, and throw Issa in jail.
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Re: Breaking - DOJ told Congress that they will not prosecute Eric Holder
« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2012, 05:13:00 PM »
What's going to happen is this:  It will drag on through the election.  After January 20th, 2013, where Prresident Romney is inaugurated, if I were Eric Holder, I'd be looking into which countries do not have extradition treaties with the United States, and I'd get to one of them immediately.
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Re: Breaking - DOJ told Congress that they will not prosecute Eric Holder
« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2012, 05:16:21 PM »
What's going to happen is this:  It will drag on through the election.  After January 20th, 2013, where Prresident Romney is inaugurated, if I were Eric Holder, I'd be looking into which countries do not have extradition treaties with the United States, and I'd get to one of them immediately.

He can hang out with Julian Assange in Ecuador.

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Re: Breaking - DOJ told Congress that they will not prosecute Eric Holder
« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2012, 05:17:17 PM »
What's going to happen is this:  It will drag on through the election.  After January 20th, 2013, where Prresident Romney is inaugurated, if I were Eric Holder, I'd be looking into which countries do not have extradition treaties with the United States, and I'd get to one of them immediately.

He and Obama could both move to Kenya and stay with Obama's brother....I hear he's added a guest packing crate.
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Re: Breaking - DOJ told Congress that they will not prosecute Eric Holder
« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2012, 05:43:26 PM »
Another fly in Holdem's ointment.  seems Issa slipped a copy of a DOJ wiretap document into the record yesterday during the debate. It clearly shows top level DOJ types knew what was going on.  The document was sealed but, through some Congressional machinations, Issa could place it in the record.

http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/06/29/breaking-issa-may-have-just-cornered-eric-holder-on-fast-and-furious-cover-up/

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Re: Breaking - DOJ told Congress that they will not prosecute Eric Holder
« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2012, 06:49:04 PM »
What's going to happen is this:  It will drag on through the election.  After January 20th, 2013, where Prresident Romney is inaugurated, if I were Eric Holder, I'd be looking into which countries do not have extradition treaties with the United States, and I'd get to one of them immediately.

 I hear Julian Assmange needs a roomie in Ecuador
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Re: Breaking - DOJ told Congress that they will not prosecute Eric Holder
« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2012, 07:13:09 PM »
I hear Julian Assmange needs a roomie in Ecuador

According to ask.com, the USA has had an extradition treaty with Ecuador since 1872, but another was signed in 1939.

Tough shit! :-) :fuelfire: O-)
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Re: Breaking - DOJ told Congress that they will not prosecute Eric Holder
« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2012, 08:04:40 PM »
According to ask.com, the USA has had an extradition treaty with Ecuador since 1872, but another was signed in 1939.

Tough shit! :-) :fuelfire: O-)

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Re: Breaking - DOJ told Congress that they will not prosecute Eric Holder
« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2012, 03:12:32 AM »
Might I be so bold as to suggest Levin.

Good idea.  Hadn't thought about that.

I was thinking more along the lines of a state Attorney General.  Preferably someone from a red state.

Greg Abbott comes to mind.

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Re: Breaking - DOJ told Congress that they will not prosecute Eric Holder
« Reply #20 on: June 30, 2012, 04:40:51 AM »
Good idea.  Hadn't thought about that.

I was thinking more along the lines of a state Attorney General.  Preferably someone from a red state.

Greg Abbott comes to mind.



Pam Bondi, perhaps?
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Re: Breaking - DOJ told Congress that they will not prosecute Eric Holder
« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2012, 09:33:41 AM »
Less than four years to slip into third world status of a nation of men and not of laws. 

Could you imagine the MSM shit storm if a republican administration had done this.

Question, when 0bama pardons Holder can Romney ignore it like 0bama does to so many of our laws and throw his ass in jail without trial?

We have a known criminal being the chief LEO and a known tax cheat being the head of the IRS. A big **** you to all of the republican senators that voted for Holder and Geitner, knowing their past criminal records.
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Re: Breaking - DOJ told Congress that they will not prosecute Eric Holder
« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2012, 09:36:40 AM »

Question, when 0bama pardons Holder can will Romney ignore it like 0bama does to so many of our laws and throw his ass in jail without trial?

You already know the answer don't you?

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Re: Breaking - DOJ told Congress that they will not prosecute Eric Holder
« Reply #23 on: June 30, 2012, 09:40:30 AM »
Question, when 0bama pardons Holder can Romney ignore it like 0bama does to so many of our laws and throw his ass in jail without trial?

Unfortunately, I don't think so.  Did Marc Rich ever get justice?
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Re: Breaking - DOJ told Congress that they will not prosecute Eric Holder
« Reply #24 on: June 30, 2012, 09:40:46 AM »
Less than four years to slip into third world status of a nation of men and not of laws. 

Could you imagine the MSM shit storm if a republican administration had done this.

Question, when 0bama pardons Holder can Romney ignore it like 0bama does to so many of our laws and throw his ass in jail without trial?

We have a known criminal being the chief LEO and a known tax cheat being the head of the IRS. A big **** you to all of the republican senators that voted for Holder and Geitner, knowing their past criminal records.

We can't blame this totally on 0bama, yes he is responsible for his own actions, however this could not happen without his enablers, the democrat party and the idiots on the left have allowed him to do this. The same people that wanted Bush thrown in jail for imaginary crimes, want 0bama and Holder protected form real crimes.  :banghead:
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