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Obamacare: Depression at the Dump is Biting Down
« on: June 27, 2012, 01:19:45 PM »

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1. Maybe they want a chance to get ouf town before


people find out what they have done.




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10. Does anybody else have a bad feeling about it?


Because I do. Nobody knows, but I think it will be bad.



By which you mean good--for us, AND for you, although you can't ever understand these truths.

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15. But if it gets ruled unconstitutional

maybe it isn't the end of the world, since it is far from perfect, anyway.
I have a feeling the SC will strike it down.

Oh what the hell---yes, for you it's the end of the world. Like the man said, "time to embrace the horror!"  :tongue:



 
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14. Probably because the decision is going to be so complicated


They are deciding a ton of stuff in this case. So there will be a ton of opinions written (maybe even all nine!). Some will dissent and concur with others, some will explain their own positions. There is a chance that several will be read at the announcement on Thursday (like several dissents today).
 
Honestly, my gut tells me that it does not bode will for the mandate, but might bode well for the rest of the bill (so the middle option). If it was upheld in total, it would be a fairly simple thing (with Scalia and Thomas, of course, offering "blistering" dissents). So the fact that they all but cleared the decks before Thursday might mean it's going to be a long conference result announcement.
 



Naturally I want the whole Obomination excreted down the judicial toilet like the legislative sewage it is, but I'd settle for your guts being right. I'll take the guts being ripped out of this thing. The rest can be defunded and repealed.



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3. shame?


Maybe they know (deep down inside past their corporate beholden duty) from their days studying law that they are going to do something they shouldnt do.
 
Oh, and by that I mean overturn any portion that would help Obama or The People at large. The SC is now a tool of the Reich wing Corporate plutocrats.


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Re: Obamacare: Depression at the Dump is Biting Down
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2012, 01:30:05 PM »
Welcome to fear, DUmmies: it's hope turned inside out. Are you enjoying that feeling of dread in the pits of your stomachs? I am.
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Re: Obamacare: Depression at the Dump is Biting Down
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2012, 01:36:37 PM »


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another major health plan for another couple decades, if this fails.

If this passes Constitutional muster, then Congress can work on improving it. If we have a more liberal Congress, they could add a public option.
 
But if it fails, no major health plan will be forthcoming for a long, long time.

Yes, yes, that's exactly right! Just so, old man. We'll clamp the lid down so hard nothing like this will ever pass through Congress again in your lifetime, or your children's lifetimes, or their children's lifetimes. You will NEVER see this again. Never.
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Re: Obamacare: Depression at the Dump is Biting Down
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2012, 01:38:55 PM »
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Oh, and by that I mean overturn any portion that would help Obama or The People at large.

As one of "The People" I'm still completely in the dark of any part of Obamacare that is actually going to help me.

But keep it up DUmmies. Either way, it's a loss for The Won.
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Re: Obamacare: Depression at the Dump is Biting Down
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2012, 01:39:13 PM »
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19. They like the drama.

It makes them feel really important.

They ARE important, DUmmie, unlike you!
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Re: Obamacare: Depression at the Dump is Biting Down
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2012, 02:08:50 PM »
There was a pretty big deal about the donks not putting in a "Sever Ability Clause" in HellCare. I always just thought it was an oversight or just arrogance. Rush put out a few good points. The donks might have thought by putting no ability to separate the mandate it would intimidate the SCOTUS and not strike down the entire signature law of the historic, unprecedented first communist president. The other was that the only ruling on sever ability came from the first federal judge and rule the whole law unconstitutional.
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Re: Obamacare: Depression at the Dump is Biting Down
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2012, 02:21:31 PM »
Quote from: jukin on June 27, 2012, 02:08:50 PM
There was a pretty big deal about the donks not putting in a "Sever Ability Clause" in HellCare. I always just thought it was an oversight or just arrogance. Rush put out a few good points. The donks might have thought by putting no ability to separate the mandate it would intimidate the SCOTUS and not strike down the entire signature law of the historic, unprecedented first communist president. The other was that the only ruling on sever ability came from the first federal judge and rule the whole law unconstitutional.

If the USSC drops the mandate but allows the rest to remain, then it is the next step on the way to socialized healthcare.  Insurance companies can not survive all the other parts without having healthy people being forced to buy insurance.
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Re: Obamacare: Depression at the Dump is Biting Down
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2012, 02:25:18 PM »
They will be crying when it is shot down, and then cheering in the streets when Obama slaps that executive order down defying the SCOTUS decision. We will then be cheering in the streets when we see Obama taken out of the White House in handcuffs because of his contempt.
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Re: Re: Obamacare: Depression at the Dump is Biting Down
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2012, 03:35:26 PM »
I'm not overly optimistic, but Intrade has it at 72% to be struck down.
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Re: Obamacare: Depression at the Dump is Biting Down
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2012, 03:37:16 PM »
Hey DUmbasses, if this law stands, oceans of doctors are retiring on the spot.  Ever think that through?  You loooove this socialized medicine, but it's kind of hard to remove your own burst appendix by yourself in the bathroom. 
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Re: Obamacare: Depression at the Dump is Biting Down
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2012, 03:39:39 PM »
They can excise more than the mandate but less than the whole law--I'm thinking especially of the provisions that would bankrupt insurance companies.
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Re: Obamacare: Depression at the Dump is Biting Down
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2012, 03:43:24 PM »
Quote from: Karin on June 27, 2012, 03:37:16 PM
Hey DUmbasses, if this law stands, oceans of doctors are retiring on the spot.  Ever think that through?  You loooove this socialized medicine, but it's kind of hard to remove your own burst appendix by yourself in the bathroom. 

Easy solution, enlist (draft) all doctors in the Obama Medical Corpse.  They will be allowed to retire two weeks after their death.
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Re: Obamacare: Depression at the Dump is Biting Down
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2012, 03:45:07 PM »
Like with every political decision from DC, tomorrow with the primitives will be either elation or pity-party.  There is no in-between.

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Re: Obamacare: Depression at the Dump is Biting Down
« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2012, 04:07:11 PM »
Quote from: USA4ME on June 27, 2012, 03:45:07 PM
Like with every political decision from DC, tomorrow with the primitives will be either elation or pity-party.  There is no in-between.

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My money's on the latter.  Bob Beckel is on The Five right now trying to defend it.  It's actually kinda funny watching him twist and turn.
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Re: Obamacare: Depression at the Dump is Biting Down
« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2012, 04:07:38 PM »
Quote from: Bad Dog on June 27, 2012, 03:43:24 PM
Easy solution, enlist (draft) all doctors in the Obama Medical Corpse.  They will be allowed to retire two weeks after their death.

Only works for the current crop of doctors (because who'd want to be a doctor under those conditions?), and only until the first one sues for violation of the 13th Amendment.
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Re: Obamacare: Depression at the Dump is Biting Down
« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2012, 04:13:11 PM »
Quote from: docstew on June 27, 2012, 04:07:38 PM
Only works for the current crop of doctors (because who'd want to be a doctor under those conditions?), and only until the first one sues for violation of the 13th Amendment.

Never heard of executive orders before.  Actually, ABM has "evolved" to presidential proclamations.
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Re: Obamacare: Depression at the Dump is Biting Down
« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2012, 04:13:54 PM »
Well - I have to give credit where credit is due - Obama may have created a 'shovel ready' job after all - burying this turd of a bill deep inside the litterbox of history.
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Re: Obamacare: Depression at the Dump is Biting Down
« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2012, 04:47:03 PM »
No matter how it turns out, the press will claim that it is a victory for 0bama. After all, they claimed that Scot Walker not getting the boot was a big win for 0bama.

If it is struck down, odds are good that 0bama will choose to ignore their ruling and press on with it anyway. That is how he does business, congress won't pass his bills? No biggie just do it anyway. Congress won't appoint his cronies? No biggie just claim that congress is in recess and appoint them anyway. Congress is after his Attorney General, who lied to congress? No biggie, just pull EP out of your ass. He abuses his power on a regular basis and his fanclub at DU cheers.  :banghead:

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Re: Obamacare: Depression at the Dump is Biting Down
« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2012, 06:36:15 PM »
Top GOP Leaders committed today to repeal it if is not completely struck down tomorrow. Romney said again yesterday that if the SCOTUS does not strike it down, he will repeal it his first day in office.
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Re: Obamacare: Depression at the Dump is Biting Down
« Reply #19 on: June 27, 2012, 06:44:43 PM »
Quote from: Freeper on June 27, 2012, 04:47:03 PM
No matter how it turns out, the press will claim that it is a victory for 0bama. After all, they claimed that Scot Walker not getting the boot was a big win for 0bama.

If it is struck down, odds are good that 0bama will choose to ignore their ruling and press on with it anyway. That is how he does business, congress won't pass his bills? No biggie just do it anyway. Congress won't appoint his cronies? No biggie just claim that congress is in recess and appoint them anyway. Congress is after his Attorney General, who lied to congress? No biggie, just pull EP out of your ass. He abuses his power on a regular basis and his fanclub at DU cheers.  :banghead:

I believe there is no action that President Bush was wrongly accused of doing/planning to do by DU and other primitives that Obama hasn't actually done to cheers by the same crowd, save for 'canceling the election'.
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Re: Obamacare: Depression at the Dump is Biting Down
« Reply #20 on: June 27, 2012, 07:14:11 PM »
0bama brags about assassinating people and the DUmmies love him.

Bush admin got some terrorist a little wet and it was torture.
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Re: Obamacare: Depression at the Dump is Biting Down
« Reply #21 on: June 27, 2012, 07:35:54 PM »
Quote from: Duke Nukum on June 27, 2012, 07:14:11 PM
0bama brags about assassinating people and the DUmmies love him.

Bush admin got some terrorist a little wet and it was torture.

That is because it is o.k as long as a liberal is doing it. You can guarantee that once Romney gets elected and continues with the same thing Obama is doing, as far as terrorism, they will be calling for him to be brought up on war crimes.
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Re: Obamacare: Depression at the Dump is Biting Down
« Reply #22 on: June 27, 2012, 08:22:11 PM »
Probably a dumb question, but what time is the ruling expected to come tomorrow?
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Re: Obamacare: Depression at the Dump is Biting Down
« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2012, 08:26:36 PM »
Quote from: Evil_Conservative on June 27, 2012, 08:22:11 PM
Probably a dumb question, but what time is the ruling expected to come tomorrow?

10 am eastern
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Re: Obamacare: Depression at the Dump is Biting Down
« Reply #24 on: June 27, 2012, 08:28:59 PM »
Quote from: Splashdown on June 27, 2012, 08:26:36 PM
10 am eastern

Damn...

Right before I go to work.  That will set my mood for the whole day.  It better be good news.  I have a feeling it's going buh-bye.
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