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Re: Pam is mad that we are comparing 0bama to Nixon.
« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2012, 08:28:35 AM »
Quote from: franksolich on June 24, 2012, 08:13:50 AM
The central legal issue of Watergate was "obstruction of justice."

The primitives, with their really weird grasp of history and reality, might think Watergate was a whole lot of other things, but the stark fact remains that it was "obstruction of justice," which is a high crime and an impeachable offense.

Since Nixon, both William Clinton and Barack Milhous have, obviously, obstructed justice, the first in lying to a grand jury, the current instance trying to cover up an illegal act via the attorney general.

The law is meant to be impartially applied.  However, this being an imperfect world, factors such as "who did it" and "who's running things at the time" (Nixon had a 60+% Democrat Congress and of course a left-wing Supreme Court) and "popular sentiment" about whether or not something's "important" at the time to the general public, influence whether or not the law is applied.

And so the law isn't applied impartially.

In a perfect world, both Clinton and Barack Milhous would've met the same fate as Nixon.

When you have the media in your corner, like Clinton and 0bama, then you can pretty much do whatever you want. For the most part the media, other than faux and talk radio, hasn't touched f&f with a ten foot pole, only after Barry claimed EP did it become a major issue for the media, and they are doing their best to provide cover for that.
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Re: Pam is mad that we are comparing 0bama to Nixon.
« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2012, 10:07:23 AM »
It's a totally unfair comparison, Nixon was actually a highly-competent foreign policy President.  So, the comparison is grossly unfair to Nixon.
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Re: Pam is mad that we are comparing 0bama to Nixon.
« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2012, 10:30:10 AM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on June 24, 2012, 10:07:23 AM
It's a totally unfair comparison, Nixon was actually a highly-competent foreign policy President.  So, the comparison is grossly unfair to Nixon.

Correct; Nixon was an excellent foreign policy president.

One of the issues of Time magazine shortly after his resignation in August 1974 pointed out that the Soviets, the Red Chinese, the Romanians, and other socialist leaders, looked in wonderment at the American public, shaking their heads in puzzlement over that Nixon had been disgraced.  As far as they were concerned, he was the most formidable foreign policy president since.....since, well, 1776.

There is no comparison between Richard Nixon and Barack Milhous excepting on this one point, obstruction of justice.  By calling Barack Milhous "Barack Milhous," I'm making any a very slight comparison between the two, any more than that Barack Milhous and franksolich are similar in that we both have five fingers each on both hands.
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Re: Pam is mad that we are comparing 0bama to Nixon.
« Reply #28 on: June 24, 2012, 10:36:01 AM »
Quote from: Freeper on June 24, 2012, 08:28:35 AM
When you have the media in your corner, like Clinton and 0bama, then you can pretty much do whatever you want. For the most part the media, other than faux and talk radio, hasn't touched f&f with a ten foot pole, only after Barry claimed EP did it become a major issue for the media, and they are doing their best to provide cover for that.

And the contrary for Nixon, when it comes to the media.

It all depends upon (a) who did it (and the media despised Nixon), (b) who was in control of things (and the media loved the Democrats in Congress), and (c) popular sentiment (the public being led by its nose by the media).

As you mentioned, Roosevelt, Kennedy, Carter, Clinton, and Barack Milhous got away with things (because the media adored, or adores, them), that Eisenhower, Johnson, Ford, Reagan, the first Bush, and the second Bush would've been lynched for, if they'd done the same things.

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Re: Pam is mad that we are comparing 0bama to Nixon.
« Reply #29 on: June 24, 2012, 10:36:50 AM »
There is always the matter of Attorney General Eric Mitchell, of course...

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Re: Pam is mad that we are comparing 0bama to Nixon.
« Reply #30 on: June 24, 2012, 10:42:41 AM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on June 24, 2012, 10:36:50 AM
There is always the matter of Attorney General Eric Mitchell, of course...

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False analogy, sir.  You know I consider you the greater wit, but on this I must differ.

John Mitchell resigned as attorney general in 1971, long before Watergate, to take over Nixon's re-election campaign.

He and Nixon, who'd once been very close friends, had some sort of private falling-out after Nixon became president in 1969, and Nixon didn't care for him being attorney general.

Because of old ties and to make it look good, Mitchell was put in charge of the re-election campaign, but was just a figurehead; he didn't know shit about what was going on.

But being an honorable man, and loyal to old once-friends, he took one for the team.
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Re: Pam is mad that we are comparing 0bama to Nixon.
« Reply #31 on: June 24, 2012, 11:02:37 AM »
You are right on the facts, however Mitchell's name is inseparably linked with the 'Imperial Presidency' in such of the popular imagination as still survives the ravages of age and pop culture.  I don't have any insight on the falling out, being just a college student at the time, but Mitchell's lunatic wife and her constant explosions in the press may have had something to do with that.
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Re: Pam is mad that we are comparing 0bama to Nixon.
« Reply #32 on: June 24, 2012, 11:37:05 AM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on June 24, 2012, 10:36:50 AM
There is always the matter of Attorney General Eric Mitchell, of course...

 :-)

I saw what you did there!  H5!
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Re: Pam is mad that we are comparing 0bama to Nixon.
« Reply #33 on: June 24, 2012, 05:16:56 PM »
I wish Pammy would stop proving to the world what we already know about her. That she is dumb enough to be twins and twice as ugly.
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Re: Pam is mad that we are comparing 0bama to Nixon.
« Reply #34 on: June 24, 2012, 05:21:55 PM »
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Re: Pam is mad that we are comparing 0bama to Nixon.
« Reply #35 on: June 24, 2012, 05:22:58 PM »
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Repukes are all predictable. They are calling Pres. Obama names incorporating Richard Nixon
Because comparing him to Jimmy Carter was too easy.
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Re: Pam is mad that we are comparing 0bama to Nixon.
« Reply #36 on: June 24, 2012, 06:02:08 PM »
Quote from: chris_ on June 24, 2012, 05:22:58 PM
Because comparing him to Jimmy Carter was too easy.

Actually, not so.  Jirack, Carbama, Ommy.  I rest my case although, Obter has a ring to it.
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