DUmmies gripe about submarines--NADS input included

[NHSparky]

DainBramaged (34,252 posts)

 We have 42 active Los Angles class hunter-killer submarines
why?
http://www.nvr.navy.mil/nvrships/sbf/fleet_10.htm

Because dipshits like you don't seem to understand that we used to have in excess of 100, plus nearly 50 boomers.  Even as late as 20 years ago when I left my first boat, we had 34 boomers and 89 fast boats.

At one point we had more than 40 boats between just Pearl and San Diego, to say nothing of Vallejo, Charleston, Norfolk, and Groton--and those were just fast boat ports.

11 Bravo (13,616 posts)
4. They might attack Pearl Harbor again!

I guess you weren't smart enough to understand the word, "deterrence," you shit-filled phony ****ing meatsack.

bongbong (2,546 posts)
11. The MIC

Somebody has to provide jobs for all the repigs in Red States.

EB is in Groton.  Most of the shipyards are in Dem states.  **** you, tard.

But at least one of the DUmmies seems to have a clue:

hack89 (14,490 posts)
46. Because the US economy depends on it?

We are absolutely dependent on the free movement of goods on the seas. The easiest way to attack the US economy would be in the Straits of Hormuz or the Straits of Malacca. Stop ships from moving freely on the oceans and our economy grinds to a stop.

Sadly, most don't.

Too bad none of ya'll DUmmies had the balls to do what I did for the better part of a decade.  You'd have been shitting yourselves before the COB ever announced, "Station the Maneuvering Watch!"

And of course, the talk swings to Arec Barwin's "epic" guanofest, "The Hunt For Red October":

Meiko (737 posts)
36. That was a pretty good movie

did you like it?

Nope.  Nothing like the book.  And don't even get me started on that shitpile of celluloid known as Crimson Tide.

And GUESS WHO makes an appearance!!!!

nadinbrzezinski (105,094 posts)
44. Wrong, women now serve on subs

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/10/22/women-to-begin-serving-on-u-s-submarines/

The LA Class, due to how it is built, will not see women... but both Seawolf and Virginia will  

Add manning expert and detailer to her resume.  Uh, nads?  No they won't.  And how do you feel about the fact that three of those 18 officers have already been shitcanned for putting in phony travel claims?   What?  You didn't hear about that?  Maybe because Big Navy has put the ****ing clampdown on any information on this little "experiment" which I personally predict is going to quietly go away after the first group of women either gets out, doesn't screen for Department Head, or converts over to SWO (surface Navy.)

[DumbAss Tanker]

DainBramaged (34,252 posts)

 We have 42 active Los Angles class hunter-killer submarines
why?

40 of them are there to look for golf balls Obama hit into the ocean from seaside courses, natch.  Two are for hunting down and killing stuff that needs hunting down and killing, also as crew trainers for the golfball retrievers.

[NHSparky]

Oh, and for the record, DUmmies--10 of those are going away by 2017.  They can't build Virginia-class boats fast enough to keep up.

Finally, question for ya, nads--why the **** would we want to spend literally tens of millions of dollars on retrofitting VA class boats to make them habitable for women when 1--they're WORSE than a 688 as far as habitability, which were FAR worse than a 637 (and if you had ever listened to your husband, you'd ****ing know that) 2--there's no indication that the women in submarines experiment (and that's all it is at this point--an EXPERIMENT) is or will work, 3--we don't have the ****ing money in the first place, 4--Obumbles wants to cut HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS from defense spending?

[thundley4]

hack89 (14,490 posts)
46. Because the US economy depends on it?

We are absolutely dependent on the free movement of goods on the seas. The easiest way to attack the US economy would be in the Straits of Hormuz or the Straits of Malacca. Stop ships from moving freely on the oceans and our economy grinds to a stop.

If Obama gets his way, the UN will be taking over keeping the seas and oceans safe.

[Bad Dog]

I bet the "silent service" will beat the knocked up ratio of the surface fleet in no time flat.

[obumazombie]

I bet the "silent service" will beat the knocked up ratio of the surface fleet in no time flat.

There's no better way out of a miserable position for a woman in today's military than a well timed pregnancy.

[movie buff]

Nope.  Nothing like the book.  And don't even get me started on that shitpile of celluloid known as Crimson Tide.

LOL, when I was a kid, either Mad Magazine or its then- rival Cracked Magazine (I forget which) did a satire of that movie in one of its issues, and called it "Crimson Turd."

[oldcrow]

Because dipshits like you don't seem to understand that we used to have in excess of 100, plus nearly 50 boomers.  Even as late as 20 years ago when I left my first boat, we had 34 boomers and 89 fast boats.

At one point we had more than 40 boats between just Pearl and San Diego, to say nothing of Vallejo, Charleston, Norfolk, and Groton--and those were just fast boat ports.

I guess you weren't smart enough to understand the word, "deterrence," you shit-filled phony ****ing meatsack.
 

EB is in Groton.  Most of the shipyards are in Dem states.  **** you, tard.

But at least one of the DUmmies seems to have a clue:

 

Sadly, most don't.

Too bad none of ya'll DUmmies had the balls to do what I did for the better part of a decade.  You'd have been shitting yourselves before the COB ever announced, "Station the Maneuvering Watch!"

And of course, the talk swings to Arec Barwin's "epic" guanofest, "The Hunt For Red October":

Nope.  Nothing like the book.  And don't even get me started on that shitpile of celluloid known as Crimson Tide.

And GUESS WHO makes an appearance!!!!

Add manning expert and detailer to her resume.  Uh, nads?  No they won't.  And how do you feel about the fact that three of those 18 officers have already been shitcanned for putting in phony travel claims?   What?  You didn't hear about that?  Maybe because Big Navy has put the ****ing clampdown on any information on this little "experiment" which I personally predict is going to quietly go away after the first group of women either gets out, doesn't screen for Department Head, or converts over to SWO (surface Navy.)

Man these DUmmies really piss me off. I have on my desktop a paperweight my grandfather gave me, it's an NSIA paperweight, that says "Pearl Harbor Day-  Dec 7, 1981, "WE REMEMBER". That's good enough reason for me.

Furthermore, ever notice how all these DUmmies are constitutional experts ,yet when it comes to the ONE ****ing thing that our government is supposed to be paying for they question it. Bunch of door humping retards over there at the DUmp.

[NHSparky]

What kills me is that these idiots have no idea how instrumental the Silent Service was in WWII, and how it remained so to the present day.

DUmmies, and those not DUmmies--I highly recommend the book "Blind Man's Bluff."  You might come away with a VASTLY different opinion.

[BlueStateSaint]

What kills me is that these idiots have no idea how instrumental the Silent Service was in WWII, and how it remained so to the present day.

DUmmies, and those not DUmmies--I highly recommend the book "Blind Man's Bluff."  You might come away with a VASTLY different opinion.

I've read that book.  Talk about balls!  Those guys had 'em.  (Sort of wondering what happened to that old Seawolf--can't remember when it was retired.)

[JohnnyReb]

What kills me is that these idiots have no idea how instrumental the Silent Service was in WWII, and how it remained so to the present day.

DUmmies, and those not DUmmies--I highly recommend the book "Blind Man's Bluff."  You might come away with a VASTLY different opinion.

From moldy old memory.....they were 5% of the navy, sunk 50% of the Japanese ships that were sunk and suffered 25% of the navy casualties.

How did I do?

[NHSparky]

From moldy old memory.....they were 5% of the navy, sunk 50% of the Japanese ships that were sunk and suffered 25% of the navy casualties.

How did I do?

Almost dead on in your numbers.  And it was less than a 50/50 chance they'd survive five war patrols.  Only the German U-boat sailors had a higher casualty rate.

[NHSparky]

I've read that book.  Talk about balls!  Those guys had 'em.  (Sort of wondering what happened to that old Seawolf--can't remember when it was retired.)

There have been three boats named Seawolf--the first one was a WWII boat sunk, possibly by friendly fire, the one you're thinking of was more of a test platform (she was the only sodium-cooled reactor) and was decommed in the late 1980's.

Halibut was the "original" SpecOp boat, although ALL submarines have the capability of performing similar tasks.  What EXACTLY they do...   

[DefiantSix]

I've read that book.  Talk about balls!  Those guys had 'em.  (Sort of wondering what happened to that old Seawolf--can't remember when it was retired.)

I remember seeing Seawolf in mothballs at Bremerton in the late '80s/early '90s, I think.

[BlueStateSaint]

There have been three boats named Seawolf--the first one was a WWII boat sunk, possibly by friendly fire, the one you're thinking of was more of a test platform (she was the only sodium-cooled reactor) and was decommed in the late 1980's.

Halibut was the "original" SpecOp boat, although ALL submarines have the capability of performing similar tasks.  What EXACTLY they do...   

It's a "need to know" thing, and a lot of people don't--me, for example.

[Aristotelian]

For any DUmmies who cast aspersion on a submarine fleet I have two words and only two words '"General Belgrano".

[DefiantSix]

For any DUmmies who cast aspersion on a submarine fleet I have two words and only two words '"General Belgrano".

And, if I'm not mistaken, Argentina was - courtesy of the Perons and their successors - the socialist utopia that DUmbshits far and wide dream about turning the US into.

[JohnnyReb]

Almost dead on in your numbers.  And it was less than a 50/50 chance they'd survive five war patrols.  Only the German U-boat sailors had a higher casualty rate.

I think the German lost like 75% of their submariners.

2 or 3 years ago I did a lot of reading about subs...have forgotten most of it. I'm just glad someone can do it because I don't think I could stand being shut up in one of them.

[Bad Dog]

I think the German lost like 75% of their submariners.

2 or 3 years ago I did a lot of reading about subs...have forgotten most of it. I'm just glad someone can do it because I don't think I could stand being shut up in one of them.

At least they're going to be coed now.

[JohnnyReb]

At least they're going to be coed now.

With my luck, they would all look like Nadin and Helen Thomas with the temperament and mental aptitude of Nancy Pelosei and Hillary Clinton. I'd be trying to dig my way out of that underwater coffin with a spoon.

[Bad Dog]

With my luck, they would all look like Nadin and Helen Thomas with the temperament and mental aptitude of Nancy Pelosei and Hillary Clinton. I'd be trying to dig my way out of that underwater coffin with a spoon.

You would be surprised how much they would improve after six months under the polar ice cap.

[vesta111]

I think the German lost like 75% of their submariners.

2 or 3 years ago I did a lot of reading about subs...have forgotten most of it. I'm just glad someone can do it because I don't think I could stand being shut up in one of them.

Somewhere I remember reading about the problems the subs had with the torpedo's, the firing mechanism was faulty and for the first year of the war we lost a large number of subs for that reason.  

Heck of a time both grandfathers worked at the Kittery base and it was 18 hour days  7 days a week turning out a sub every 2 months.   Grandpas told me of the riggers having a still out back and the workers getting a drink from time to time to keep working.

I remember the cirgar boxes both grandpas had that were full of medalions with the names of the boats that they built, paper circles with the name of the boat with a gold tassel attached.   Dozens and dozens of them, most did not come back.

Once we figured out the problem of why the torpedo's did not fire, the sub service went Tallie ho to help protect us.

We won the war  with the Pig Boats, and today we are a different kind of Silent Service.   We are a deterrent armed with teeth.  Our Fast Attacks protect the Boomers and it is a silent and deadly force we have.

Our best defence, one that give our enemy pause to get nasty with us.  

[T-Monay820]

In fairness, most of the people are telling those few fanatics who think we don't need a sub force to STFU. Only a handful are hanging in there without any evidence other than "paranoia" to support their claims. Fortunately, the people who manage the Navy are well aware of Iran, NK, China, and Russia and I don't see subs going away anytime soon.

[JohnnyReb]

  Dozens and dozens of them, most did not come back.

Once we figured out the problem of why the torpedo's did not fire, the sub service went Tallie ho to help protect us.

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There was a problem with the early torpedo's that the Navy brass would believe...but the biggest losses were due to a big mouth democrat congress critter revealing the best depth for the Japanese to set their depth charges for.

[I_B_Perky]

Because dipshits like you don't seem to understand that we used to have in excess of 100, plus nearly 50 boomers.  Even as late as 20 years ago when I left my first boat, we had 34 boomers and 89 fast boats.

At one point we had more than 40 boats between just Pearl and San Diego, to say nothing of Vallejo, Charleston, Norfolk, and Groton--and those were just fast boat ports.

I guess you weren't smart enough to understand the word, "deterrence," you shit-filled phony ****ing meatsack.
 

EB is in Groton.  Most of the shipyards are in Dem states.  **** you, tard.

Well Sparky, the guy that lived across the street would BS with me from time to time about his service in WW2 on a boat over a beer or two. And yes... I learned real quick that they are called "boats"!!! 

You have my respect sir.  No damned way I would get in one of them submersible coffins.