"Wha-a-a-a-a-ah!!! They won't let us win!"

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Avalux (27,554 posts)

 Their goal is to beat us into submission.

Not in traditionally savage ways of course, but psycologically. There's no blood and in some ways, it's more damaging.

The psychological message they sent us with their 'win' last night is this:

"Protesting doesn't work. Give up, shut up and figure out that we're going to win, always. We lie, we cheat, we steal and there's nothing you can do to stop us."

That's the message they want us to not only understand, but believe and obey. So are we going to listen to them?

HELL NO!

Honestly. I don't care if you feel beaten down. I want to win and you don't figure into it except as a hurdle to be surmounted/bypassed/ignored.

Whatever emotional distress you feel is just gravy for my steak.

WingDinger (3,460 posts)
2. We usually are too cool for outbursts, protesting and talking loudly.

We have been defined by the right as passive, polite and gentile. And we bought it. Till we get loud, rude and hostile, in large numbers, we will continue to be punching bags. Liberals need to redefine themselves as tough, committed and pissed as hell.,

We already think you're loud, obnoxious and loathsome. That's why we hold nothing but contempt for your but contempt for your species.

Avalux (27,554 posts)
5. You're correct.

The dichotomy drives me nuts. We have been defined that way, while the right is defined as gun-toting, tough talking, SOBs. Yet they while how they're always being victimized and in the minority, and it works.

See post #4 for some real protest pics....

Everything you ****tards preach is grievance mongering. Every defense of our own rights is a "War Against [liberal rage du jour]"

When have you asshats every preached self-reliance?

Scootaloo (683 posts)
11. No, that's not the right's definition; that's OUR definition

It's painful to admit for a lot of people I'm sure, but the left in America is still stuck in the 60's. The hippy mentality still dominates the entire process. And that means passive, polite "protest" that consists of puppet shows, drum circles, and witty folk songs. I'm sure that if we could find a way to protest with a carrot cake, we'd do that. It's this idea that we all need to be these humming, gentle, saintly Gandhi-like people to get anything done. Like we have to be "above the fray."

Gandhi's message worked because he had a couple million super pissed-off Indians standing behind him providing an "option B" if the British didn't want to listen to the man.

Boomers, love you guys, but really... it didn't work. We need to look back at your grandparents and how they got shit done. Here's how they protested Wall Street:
 

Awww yeeeah.

Gonna go the Bill Ayers route?

marions ghost (10,738 posts)
7. Agree

these are ruthless people who have no concept of compromise. They want total dominance. They want one-party rule. They will use everything at their disposal to win.

And a lot of Americans just go along with it...

How do we keep up the momentum with so much less money and power....?

AverageJoe90 (1,554 posts)
8. I'm afraid that if things really don't work out, a violent revolution may be inevitable. nt

Feeling froggy?

jump

hifiguy (7,663 posts)
13. "Those who make peaceful evolution impossible

make violent revolution inevitable." - John Fitzgerald Kennedy

marions ghost (10,738 posts)
14. If you have only one party with any power

and people feel more and more oppressed, there will be more frustration and a breaking point will come. When enough people realize that we are being screwed...

I don't want to see that, but I am convinced that the forces against us will stop at nothing to achieve their ends--ie. domination and control of the US.

Maybe a meteor will hit in the North Atlantic and we won't have to worry about it...

You'd have power if people gave a **** about what yuou're trying to peddle.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002776966

[franksolich]

WTF?

Gandhi's message worked because he had a couple million super pissed-off Indians standing behind him providing an "option B" if the British didn't want to listen to the man.

Gandhi's message worked--replacing the benevolent rule of the British in India by the despostic self-seeking corrupt power-hungry Nehru clan--because he was appealing to the nobler instincts of the British.

And Gandhi himself said so, adding that hunger-strikes and somesuch wouldn't have worked against the amoral Japanese or German socialists.

[jukin]

I'd kick the DUches in the teeth when you are down you DUmb ****s. Gots to break some eggs.

BTW, lurkers, all political violence has always come from the leftists.

[Ballygrl]

WingDinger (3,460 posts)
2. We usually are too cool for outbursts, protesting and talking loudly.

We have been defined by the right as passive, polite and gentile. And we bought it.

This person can't be serious!

[Mike220]

This person can't be serious!

I know, right? Doesn't this idiot remember the shit that started all this in Wisconsin anyway?

[thundley4]

WingDinger (3,460 posts)
2. We usually are too cool for outbursts, protesting and talking loudly.

We have been defined by the right as passive, polite and gentile. And we bought it.

This person can't be serious!

We all know they are dirty, smelly, loud, obnoxious and tend to violence at the drop of a hat.

[obumazombie]

I know, right? Doesn't this idiot remember the shit that started all this in Wisconsin anyway?

They act like all history is revisionist.

[GOBUCKS]

hifiguy (7,663 posts)
13. "Those who make peaceful evolution impossible

make violent revolution inevitable." - John Fitzgerald Kennedy

It's easy to sit there and say you'd like to have more money. And I guess that's what I like about it. It's easy. Just sitting there, rocking back and forth, wanting that money.
Jack Handey

[franksolich]

Now, I'm not denying this, at least in my own personal case:

Their goal is to beat us into submission.

The primitives need to feel the lash.

The lash might turn a minuscule tiny few into decent and civilized people.

It might half-civilize a somewhat larger, but still small, number of them.

But the other 99% of them need to feel the lash simply because they're primitives; stupid, loutish, selfish, gluttonous, self-deluded, crude, coarse, brutish.  The lash isn't going to change them, but they still need to feel the pain of it.

[Gina]

marions ghost (10,738 posts)
14. If you have only one party with any power

and people feel more and more oppressed, there will be more frustration and a breaking point will come. When enough people realize that we are being screwed...

I don't want to see that, but I am convinced that the forces against us will stop at nothing to achieve their ends--ie. domination and control of the US.

Mole! 

[Karin]

Yeah, I don't know what some of those people are smoking, but

We already think you're loud, obnoxious and loathsome.

I like that word loathsome.  When you pronounce it, it sounds like what it means.