Another DUmmy argument about the Confederate flag.

[dane]

One would think that as many times as they talk about this, they could all spell it, but one would be wrong:

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dballance (776 posts)
 Why is it we allow people to fly the Confedrerate Flag?
Germany had the good since to outlaw the Nazi flag….snip

DUmmies often talk amongst themselves about how much smarter they are than the rest of us, how the South is peopled by barely literate citizens, and then they type this:

JitterbugPerfume (17,850 posts)
9. well, it IS another country's flag
The Confederacy succeeded from…..snipped the remainder

  JitterbugPerfume (17,850 posts)
26. you are right razorman , it was to preserve the union
but the truth of the matter is they had a President and a congress seperate….more snippage   

[BattleHymn]

Washed up on the coast, shifting to and fro with the tide, float the unused and tattered remains of the only dictionary on Skin's Island. 


Grammar will rise again!

[Duke Nukum]

JitterbugPerfume (17,850 posts)
9. well, it IS another country's flag
The Confederacy succeeded from…..snipped the remainder

  JitterbugPerfume (17,850 posts)
26. you are right razorman , it was to preserve the union
but the truth of the matter is they had a President and a congress seperate….more snippage   

Seper fi, Tim Robbins fan, Seper fi.

[vesta111]

 

The Confederate flag is but a family fight.   A fight among Americans about who is in charge here.

As an American and a Yankee I respect the Stars and Bars as one of the many symbols of America.   Yes my family did loose kin to the south and some folk sided with the South and died.

So should I side with the Yankees that won the war or side with family that lost the war.    Have to remember the war was a family fight that pitted brother against brother, sons against fathers and wives against sisters and brothers.

Family fights are not your most gentle arguments, can become most bloody.

To try to compair the Swastika with the Rebel flag is nonsense.     The Nazi flag was to invade different lands-------The American Flag and the Southern Flag was, as I said a family fight.

Head South and stop at the small grave's beside the back roads and check the names of the CSA markers, you may find a direct family member that had a family argument and is resting in peace far, far from home.

[Bad Dog]

Washed up on the coast, shifting to and fro with the tide, float the unused and tattered remains of the only dictionary on Skin's Island. 


Grammar will rise again!

When I first started reading, I thought you were comparing Dummies to the famous Long Island Whitefish.

[AprilRazz]

JitterbugPerfume (17,850 posts)
9. well, it IS another country's flag
The Confederacy succeeded from

Why yes you buffoon, the South is succeeding. We are succeeding in making the north look like the dung heap it is.

[Skul]

Here, let me help with this, DUmbass.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002749730

Thu May 31, 2012, 03:13 PM
 dballance (776 posts)

 Why is it we allow people to fly the Confedrerate Flag join DUmpomatic Underground?
Germany had the good since to outlaw the Nazi flag. But for some reason we, in the US, continue to allow state governments to fly the confederate flag have their own political thoughts. or incorporate it into their own flags or media. Why the heck do we continue to allow Dumpomatic revolt and revolution to be displayed?

You GOP thugs want to waste my tax dollars Let's waste them on taxpayer funded abortions, instead debating women's health? Well f-you. (no we don't, we want to address the economy Let's debate preventing any likeness of the confederate flag Dumpomatic Underground being used on any local, state or federal grounds since it is a representation of treason to the US.

Listen, dunbalanced, it's called the First Amendment. Read it, DUmbass.
While yer at it, try number ten.
Stupid DUmpmonkey.

[Skul]

Sorry about the back-to-back.
Just ran into this one on a different thread.
I don't particularky agree, but, these DUmmie has some balls.

Response to dballance (Original post)
Thu May 31, 2012, 03:28 PM
 XemaSab (54,822 posts)
10. Um, first amendment much?

Let's lock up all the people who fly the confederate flag and use the word ****** (even the black people) and espouse anti-gay rhetoric, and then in 8 years when we have another republican president he can lock up all the people who say that the American agriculture industry is corrupt and that fossil fuels are killing us and that the American military is a force for evil in the world.

You really want to go there?

I don't.

I think the first amendment is the best thing we have going for us. 

Ya, you read it just like I did.
The tread is here... http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002749730
Nobody called him on it.

Another that was of interest.

Response to dballance (Original post)
Thu May 31, 2012, 03:36 PM
 MrSlayer (18,507 posts)
14. That pesky first amendment.

You can fly any flag you want here, burn em too. 

Knock yer self out, young lad. Dare ya.

[thundley4]

This week we took our dog down to a small grassy area by the city lake.  There was a boat across the water flying the Stars and Bars of the Confederacy.

ETA: Picture.

[Skul]

The Confederate flag is but a family fight.   A fight among Americans about who is in charge here.

As an American and a Yankee I respect the Stars and Bars as one of the many symbols of America.   Yes my family did loose kin to the south and some folk sided with the South and died.

So should I side with the Yankees that won the war or side with family that lost the war.    Have to remember the war was a family fight that pitted brother against brother, sons against fathers and wives against sisters and brothers.

Family fights are not your most gentle arguments, can become most bloody.

To try to compair the Swastika with the Rebel flag is nonsense.     The Nazi flag was to invade different lands-------The American Flag and the Southern Flag was, as I said a family fight.

Head South and stop at the small grave's beside the back roads and check the names of the CSA markers, you may find a direct family member that had a family argument and is resting in peace far, far from home.

So what is your point?
Been there, done that
We are all very well aware of the ties involved with the war between the states.
Trust me, we do not need you to educate us on that particular conflict.

[hillneck]

If you really want the confuse the DUmmies, let them know that the so called Stars and Bars flag is not a confederate flag.  It was the battle flag.  Adopted so commanders could tell where their unit lines where during the fog and smoke of battle.  The true confederate was not far off in design from the Betsy Ross design flag.

[wasp69]

dballance (776 posts)
 Why is it we allow people to fly the Confedrerate Flag?

Allow?  Really?!?  Tell you what, ****o, anytime you want to come and take mine down, feel free.

[/quote]
Germany had the good since to outlaw the Nazi flag….snip
[/quote]

The CSA didn't have a policy of exterminating non-whites, you illiterate simpleton.

[DumbAss Tanker]

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dballance (776 posts)
 Why is it we allow people to fly the Confedrerate Flag?
Germany had the good since to outlaw the Nazi flag….snip

But you will still see the good ol' Rot-Weiss-Schwarz Imperial colors flown at times.  Jus' sayin'.

 

[ChuckJ]

If you really want the confuse the DUmmies, let them know that the so called Stars and Bars flag is not a confederate flag.  It was the battle flag.  Adopted so commanders could tell where their unit lines where during the fog and smoke of battle.  The true confederate was not far off in design from the Betsy Ross design flag.

They argued about our Georgia state flag pre-2001 claiming it was the confederate flag. I laughed. When they changed it the second time in 2003 I really laughed. I told my wife that if she wanted to see what the real Confederate States of America flag looked she could just look at the new state flag and imagine it without the state coat of arms.

I've often wondered when those idiots who argued that the 1956 flag had the confederate flag on it were going to open a history book and notice that their arguments didn't really accomplish much.

[dane]

They argued about our Georgia state flag pre-2001 claiming it was the confederate flag. I laughed. When they changed it the second time in 2003 I really laughed. I told my wife that if she wanted to see what the real Confederate States of America flag looked she could just look at the new state flag and imagine it without the state coat of arms.

I've often wondered when those idiots who argued that the 1956 flag had the confederate flag on it were going to open a history book and notice that their arguments didn't really accomplish much.

I certainly hope the DUmmy *dballance* lurks over here to read this, and then does a little google search on the similarities.  Surely it would cause another great rant along the lines of the OP referenced in this thread.

[hillneck]

They argued about our Georgia state flag pre-2001 claiming it was the confederate flag. I laughed. When they changed it the second time in 2003 I really laughed. I told my wife that if she wanted to see what the real Confederate States of America flag looked she could just look at the new state flag and imagine it without the state coat of arms.

I've often wondered when those idiots who argued that the 1956 flag had the confederate flag on it were going to open a history book and notice that their arguments didn't really accomplish much.

Chuck, That is too funny.  I never realized GA had done that.  Except for coat of arms it looks just like the plate on the front of my truck.

[ChuckJ]

Chuck, That is too funny.  I never realized GA had done that.  Except for coat of arms it looks just like the plate on the front of my truck.

The strange thing is that the liberals view the US flag as just a piece of cloth. They see no need to show it any respect. It's just a piece of cloth. They see no problem with burning it. It's just a piece of cloth. They have no problem with stumping on it or throwing it in the trash. It's just a piece of cloth. Strangely enough those very same liberals see any version of the confederate flag as something way beyond being just a piece of cloth.

And speaking of confederate flags, years ago I had a young guy working with me that graduated high school the year after Spike Lee's Malcolm X move came out. One day as we were talking about things he told me this story...
Some of the black kids at the high school started wearing black t-shirts with a big gray X on the front. Then some of the white kids started wearing t-shirts with the confederate battle flag on the front with "You have your X. We have ours" beneath the flag. The blacks were offended and the whites kids were told that they could no longer wear shirts with a confederate flag. After that the black kids started wearing similar black t-shirts with an X and the phrase "It's a black thing. You wouldn't understand" on the front.. Since the white kids were banned from wearing anything confederate flag related a few of them started wearing t-shirts with a cotton ball on the front along with the phrase "It's a white thing. You used to pick it." Needless to say, that didn't go over too well.

I also remember several years back about a community festival of some sort in some tiny town. I can't remember the town, but I do know that it is within less than a day's drive from where I am. The town apparently had this festival almost every year and would print up t-shirts that advertised the festival. This particular year the focus of the festival was something history related. To reflect that year's theme the t-shirts were screen printed with a picture that had an old white, wood house on it. It also had two flag poles that were crossed. One pole had the US flag. One had the confederate battle. The picture also showed a cotton field in front of the old wood house, and a woman was in the field picking cotton. The shirt was deemed as racist by the bleeding hearts. They based their claim on the fact that the picture had a confederate flag in it AND had a black slave woman picking cotton.

Let me tell you about the woman that was picking cotton in the picture. She had on a long dress so you couldn't see her legs or her arms. She had a large bonnet on her head so you couldn't see her face or her hair. And finally, her hands were hidden by the leaves of the cotton plants. To this day I haven't been able to figure out how they came to the conclusion that she was black.

[hillneck]

The strange thing is that the liberals view the US flag as just a piece of cloth. They see no need to show it any respect. It's just a piece of cloth. They see no problem with burning it. It's just a piece of cloth. They have no problem with stumping on it or throwing it in the trash. It's just a piece of cloth. Strangely enough those very same liberals see any version of the confederate flag as something way beyond being just a piece of cloth.

I hear you.  I've spent my whole adult life (30+) defending this way of life.  Beginning to think that's all I was destined to do in life.  Lost more friends and buddies than I like to think about, but never in vain.  I look upon the U.S. flag as a reminder of what I have chosen to do in life.  I've been to places that have never have dreamed of the freedom we have in America.   Even though the idiots from DU get under my skin, especially on certain issues, I understand that is exactly what I have fought for all these years.  Sometimes just freedom to speak without fear of reprisal.  As far as the CSA flag, coming off a mountain in WV, and having many kin fighting for the CSA, I got schooled early in life about true history about the War Between the States.   

[obumazombie]

Libs claim to know conservative motives aside from the conservative actions that precede them.

[thundley4]

Southerners flying the Confederate flag is no more racist that the illegal immigrants flying the Mexican flag.

[diesel driver]

They never seemed to have a problem with "Fritz" Hollins when he was governor of South Carolina.

The stars and bars flew beneath the US and SC flags over the South Carolina State House, from his term as governor in 1962, until 2000.

Oh, DUH!   

Fritz was a DIMORAT!   

[seahorse513]

To me, The Confederate Flag represents the Southern states during a time in America's history. Though I don't like slavery, but other countries adopted slavery as well. What about all the men, women and children who worked in the mills in the north? Were they really treated any better??? I realize I am comparing apples to oranges here.

[JohnnyReb]

They never seemed to have a problem with "Fritz" Hollins when he was governor of South Carolina.

The stars and bars flew beneath the US and SC flags over the South Carolina State House, from his term as governor in 1962, until 2000.

Oh, DUH!   

Fritz was a DIMORAT!   

The Confederate flag originally went up to commemorate the 100 th year of the start of the Civil War and was to come down in 1965 marking the end of the war.

Now if you really want to piss a southerner off, tell him "You will do or "We demand you do" or "We're going to make you do" such and such." You ask a southerner for the shirt off his back and you'll probably get it but if you demand it....you got problems. People started demanding they take the flag down...so...it stayed up longer than it was originally intended.

BTW: I was going to college in Columbia in the mid 60's. I stayed in a hotel across the street and 1/2 a block up from the state capitol building. I used to stop on the corner every morning on my way to class and salute those 3-flags... ...and yes, my friends thought I was crazy... ...Hey it was my college days, you're supposed to do stupid shiite.

[ChuckJ]

The Confederate flag originally went up to commemorate the 100 th year of the start of the Civil War and was to come down in 1965 marking the end of the war.

Now if you really want to piss a southerner off, tell him "You will do or "We demand you do" or "We're going to make you do" such and such." You ask a southerner for the shirt off his back and you'll probably get it but if you demand it....you got problems. People started demanding they take the flag down...so...it stayed up longer than it was originally intended.

BTW: I was going to college in Columbia in the mid 60's. I stayed in a hotel across the street and 1/2 a block up from the state capitol building. I used to stop on the corner every morning on my way to class and salute those 3-flags... ...and yes, my friends thought I was crazy... ...Hey it was my college days, you're supposed to do stupid shiite.

When the SC flag deal was going on and the NAACP started boycotting, or attempting to boycott, South Carolina I read that some black business owners were asking them to stop the boycott because it was the black businesses that was actually being hurt by it. Are they still boycotting?

[JohnnyReb]

When the SC flag deal was going on and the NAACP started boycotting, or attempting to boycott, South Carolina I read that some black business owners were asking them to stop the boycott because it was the black businesses that was actually being hurt by it. Are they still boycotting?

Yes...but just like the DUmmies, it's all on paper and not real world.

I know you never saw it on National TV but some blacks were demonstrating to keep the confederate flag atop the capitol. They said it was part of their heritage too.