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So fracking stupid: thread dies in 1 post
« on: May 30, 2012, 05:24:24 PM »
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41.16 tons of HCL, 12.87 tons of tetramethyl ammonium chloride, 5.5 tons of potassium hydroxide

How would you like that being integrated into your drinking water?

There Are Many Scary Chemicals In Fracking Fluid At This Pennsylvania Site

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/there-are-many-scary-chemicals-in-fracking-fluid-at-this-pennsylvania-site-2012-5#ixzz1wNoMFUcT

Let’s consider a frack site in Beaver County, Pennsylvania. This particular frack site is right in the middle of Marcellus Shale country and lies along the state’s Western border, and is located in a rural community similar to many areas of the middle inner-East Coast.

The nearest house is approximately 300 meters away and the nearest neighborhood is 1200 meters away. Within 3000 meters from the site lies a sprawling golf course and a small community of 20 houses.

[And it's all 5,000-plus ft underground--as in: solid rock--while the water table is probably 100 to 500 feet deep. This is what we call lying with the truth. SgtSB]

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The frack fluid mostly contains water (89%), with another 9.3% of the fluid being sand. While on the surface this may seem to be a non-toxic, unthreatening mixture, it must be kept in mind that these two ingredients that constitute up to 98.3% of a frack fluid recipe equal out to about 25,025.17 tons of liquid. Now consider that the remaining chemicals constitute an additional 132.82 tons, or 1.7%, of the mixture.

Though most of these remaining chemicals measure out to be below one ton, there are larger amounts of some certain ingredients. For instance, hydrogen chloride totals a whopping 41.16 tons. Other ingredients, such as a ‘carbohydrate polymer’ are listed at comprising 33.17 tons, and a ‘synthetic organic polymer’ makes up 20.76 tons.

Other high amounts of ingredients include tetramethyl ammonium chloride (12.87 tons), ‘aliphatic polyol’ (11.10 tons), potassium hydroxide (5.55 tons) and hydrotreated petroleum distillate (2.99 tons).

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/there-are-many-scary-chemicals-in-fracking-fluid-at-this-pennsylvania-site-2012-5#ixzz1wNobVYKX


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1. The HCl is in the form of hydrochloric acid, the same

as in your car's battery. Potassium hydroxide is a form of lye, and is commonly used in the manufacture of biodiesel and in making soft soaps. Its role in fracking is most likely to neutralize the HCl and normalize the pH of the fluid.

I'm not sure what the purpose of all of these chemicals is in the fracking process. Most, however, are toxic.

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Re: So fracking stupid: thread dies in 1 post
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2012, 05:31:19 PM »
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The frack fluid mostly contains water (89%)

That right there is dangerous.

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Re: So fracking stupid: thread dies in 1 post
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2012, 05:31:42 PM »
This reminds me off when the Great Lakes fish were tested in the 70s for Mercury and found that it was supposedly high....then they tested the fish from 60-75 years before that and found they had even HIGHER percentages of mercury.

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Re: So fracking stupid: thread dies in 1 post
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2012, 05:42:41 PM »


Leftists are gullible idiots that will fall for anything.



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Re: So fracking stupid: thread dies in 1 post
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2012, 05:44:40 PM »
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Re: So fracking stupid: thread dies in 1 post
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2012, 05:48:48 PM »
That's why we paint them black with white dots and play dominoes with them.

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Re: So fracking stupid: thread dies in 1 post
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2012, 05:50:38 PM »
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1. The HCl is in the form of hydrochloric acid, the same as in your car's battery. Potassium hydroxide is a form of lye, and is commonly used in the manufacture of biodiesel and in making soft soaps. Its role in fracking is most likely to neutralize the HCl and normalize the pH of the fluid.

I'm not sure what the purpose of all of these chemicals is in the fracking process. Most, however, are toxic.
Psst, MM, Battery acid is H2SO4. You know, sulfuric acid.
HCL is Hydrochloric acid. In mild form it's sometimes called Muriatic acid. HCl is also the main part of stomach acid.
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Re: So fracking stupid: thread dies in 1 post
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2012, 10:55:42 PM »
We sell tons of muriatic acid at work. Right now we sell most of it for SWIMMING POOLS!!!! :panic:


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Hydrochloric acid can be used to regulate the acidity (pH) of solutions.
 OH− + HCl → H2O + Cl−
In industry demanding purity (food, pharmaceutical, drinking water), high-quality hydrochloric acid is used to control the pH of process water streams. In less-demanding industry, technical quality hydrochloric acid suffices for neutralizing waste streams and swimming pool treatment.[18]
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Re: So fracking stupid: thread dies in 1 post
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2012, 11:00:17 PM »
Clearly I am no chemist but was working with one that taught me one of the most valuable lessons ever. WHEN WORKING AROUND CHEMICALS ALWAYS WASH YOUR HANDS BEFORE GOING TO THE BATHROOM.
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Re: So fracking stupid: thread dies in 1 post
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2012, 12:21:12 AM »
Pennsylvania with all it's abandoned underground mine fires could use a good fracking.
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Re: So fracking stupid: thread dies in 1 post
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2012, 01:49:36 AM »
Clearly I am no chemist but was working with one that taught me one of the most valuable lessons ever. WHEN WORKING AROUND CHEMICALS ALWAYS WASH YOUR HANDS BEFORE GOING TO THE BATHROOM.

I discovered this rule when chopping up habanero peppers.


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Re: So fracking stupid: thread dies in 1 post
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2012, 02:00:57 AM »
I discovered this rule when chopping up habanero peppers.



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Re: So fracking stupid: thread dies in 1 post
« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2012, 04:18:55 AM »
I discovered this rule when chopping up habanero peppers.



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Re: So fracking stupid: thread dies in 1 post
« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2012, 04:36:13 AM »
Clearly I am no chemist but was working with one that taught me one of the most valuable lessons ever. WHEN WORKING AROUND CHEMICALS ALWAYS WASH YOUR HANDS BEFORE GOING TO THE BATHROOM.

I discovered this rule when chopping up habanero peppers.

I don't believe I'd told that!   :lmao:

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« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2012, 09:18:04 AM »
This reminds me off when the Great Lakes fish were tested in the 70s for Mercury and found that it was supposedly high....then they tested the fish from 60-75 years before that and found they had even HIGHER percentages of mercury.

Leftists are gullible idiots that will fall for anything.



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Re: So fracking stupid: thread dies in 1 post
« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2012, 09:35:19 AM »
This reminds me off when the Great Lakes fish were tested in the 70s for Mercury and found that it was supposedly high....then they tested the fish from 60-75 years before that and found they had even HIGHER percentages of mercury.

Leftists are gullible idiots that will fall for anything.
I remember that report from years ago.
I'm sure it could be found with Teh Google, unless Nads is hogging the bandwidth.  :whistling:
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« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2012, 12:24:13 PM »
Those lib memes like acid rain, mercury in fish, silent spring, the ozone layer, they seem to die out pretty fast, never to be resurrected.
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« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2012, 06:04:43 PM »
I believe you.  I would like to know if you have an on-line source for that information that I could pass on to a non-believer.
I remember the story from the 1970s. There had been a warning to not eat fish from Lake Erie due to mercury content. Then not long after, a fish was tested from a museum in Buffalo, that had been preserved since sometime around the turn of the century. Its mercury content was a little higher than the fish from Lake Erie.

The mercury content was such a tiny trace amount there'd been no testing since.

In the 70s, leftists were bending over backward to make the Great Lakes, especially Lake Erie, sound like a cesspool. When Time magazine declared the lake "dead", the fishing on my boat was fantastic. It was around the same time when a spill of gasoline on the Cuyahoga River ignited, and was used to portray the river, and Lake Erie, as polluted beyond description. Of course if you spill gasoline on a pool of distilled water, it will ignite just the same.

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« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2012, 06:16:51 PM »
The "River of Fire", remember that one, too.  :cheersmate:
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