Here's the transcript of the call:
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2012/05/24/the_pelosi_chart_that_inspired_rex_nuttingRUSH: We're gonna start in Pittsburgh. It's Jim. Great to have out program. You're up first, and welcome, sir.
CALLER: Great, Rush. I called Rex Nutting Tuesday night in Pittsburgh. He was on a talk show on that article, and I called him on it. First thing I said is, "They use baseline budgeting." He goes, "What is that?" I explained --
RUSH: Wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold it a second. Hold it. You...? Rex Nutting was on a show in Pittsburgh last Tuesday. You called the show.
CALLER: This Tuesday. And I knew enough by listening to you about baseline budgeting and everything else to challenge him, okay?
RUSH: And this guy --
CALLER: He didn't know what it was. I had to explain it to him, and --
RUSH: Wait a second. We gotta digest this. You're flying by this. Don't worry. I'll hold you over.
CALLER: Okay, good. As long as I know I have more time, I won't rush through it.
RUSH: Right, right. I just want to make sure people digest this. The guy who wrote the piece claiming that Obama is not a big spender, that Bush really spent all that money, you had a chance to talk to him on the radio in Pittsburgh last week; he did not know what baseline budgeting is. You had to tell him.
CALLER: Yes. Exactly. Yes. Yes.
RUSH: Did he understand it after you explained it?
CALLER: Yes, he did. Here's the amazing thing about it, Rush. He did, and he admitted they probably use it.
RUSH: (laughing)
CALLER: This is how crazy it was. And I even said to him, Rush, I said, "They off-loaded Obamacare 'til 2014," and after that I got cut off. Because the host even admitted that his Twitter account was going bonkers. No one called him on it because no one knew enough like I knew enough to challenge him on it, okay? But as a guy that really doesn't have half of a brain, I don't know --
RUSH: Well, this is why, Jim, I am convinced that this guy was inspired by a chart that Pelosi's office put out a year ago. With your story I am more convinced than ever that that's what happened here. Look, we have the break. I want you to hold on.
CALLER: Okay.
RUSH: Okay, we're back with Jim in Pittsburgh who ended up talking to Rex Nutting on a radio talk show, I guess, Tuesday in Pittsburgh last week, and he had not heard of baseline budgeting. You had to explain it to him. Nutting is the guy that has this piece out about Obama not being a proliferate big spender. But you pointed out that Obamacare was off-loaded to 2014, all of the spending, the, quote, unquote, benefits so that that wouldn't show up before Obama had a chance to be reelected. But then you said that the Twitter account was going bonkers and nobody called him. Whose Twitter account was going bonkers?
CALLER: It was the guy on KDKA, Robert Mangino, he has the six to ten.
RUSH: The host, okay.
CALLER: The host. He goes either way, conservative or liberal, but I think he goes more on the liberal side as far as politics. And he even liked my idea about baseline budgeting, but how he sold him on it, and he sells a lot of people on it, he says, "Oh, using real dollars," and he admitted, he goes, "Yeah, I think Jim's right, they use baseline budgeting." I think what it is, Rush, you know, I told him right off, I said, "Look, I have a degree in political science. I've been following things for years. He knew I knew more than he knew. And after I explained it to him, he admitted it was true, and then I got cut off because they were worried that I would blow the guy out of the water. If I had more time I would have blown him out of the water. My point is, Rush, these people are so stupid that write these articles, that I don't know if it's lies, deceitful or just stupidity.
RUSH: Well --
CALLER: Who knows. But the whole point is --
RUSH: It's probably a combination.
CALLER: Yeah, that's what I think it is. But if I would have thought about what you said about how he hadn't passed the budget, I wish I could have thought -- and that's why you're where you're at, but he admitted to -- he says, "Well, they have to start somewhere." But he did not know what baseline budgeting is. And I don't know if people outside of listeners to your show know, but you've explained it eloquently over the years, and I was able to easily explain it. And the host even was --
RUSH: When you explain that the Porkulus -- and this guy trying to blame Bush for the Porkulus takes the cake. But all of this spending that was off-budget, was added to the budget, gets added to the baseline because it is federal spending. So the next budget incorporates that new level as the new baseline from which all the new spending increases are tabulated. Therefore, the spending which followed 2009 increased almost at a geometric progression because the baseline had a trillion dollars added to it that was not on the budget.