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It's no fun waging war on those who suck-start their own weapons
« on: May 24, 2012, 10:18:22 AM »
 :lalala:  is not an effective strategy to defending against an enemy.

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1. Who is paying attention

Has anyone noticed that the budget deficit is gone and taxes are down slightly? Taxpayers have saved $1 billion and 72 percent favor the changes that have occurred in Wisconsin?

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Re: It's no fun waging war on those who suck-start their own weapons
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2012, 10:48:17 AM »
Quote from: SGT Snuggle Bunny on May 24, 2012, 10:18:22 AM
:lalala:  is not an effective strategy to defending against an enemy.
  

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Re: It's no fun waging war on those who suck-start their own weapons
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2012, 10:50:47 AM »
 :o   WOW.

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Re: It's no fun waging war on those who suck-start their own weapons
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2012, 12:40:48 PM »
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     June will be a wonderful month. DU will be in defcon mode for the first time since the jury system was implemented - just imagine the fur that's going to fly!

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Re: It's no fun waging war on those who suck-start their own weapons
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2012, 12:51:46 PM »
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Re: It's no fun waging war on those who suck-start their own weapons
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2012, 01:06:00 PM »
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Re: It's no fun waging war on those who suck-start their own weapons
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2012, 01:13:29 PM »
This is a little long, but worth skimming through.  Last post in the thread. 

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8. Here's what really happened...

Speaking the truth is frowned upon lest it sap voter enthusiasm, but being on the ground here in WI, and having a feeling of disgust as this race seems to be slipping away, I'll give it to you straight.

Everything was going fantastically well up to turning in the recall petitions. It was a good year of organized efforts and the movement was focused and strong on getting Wanker recalled. You have to remember, there have only been a couple governors put up for recall in the entire country- EVER. The effort had to be focused just on obtaining the required signatures, nearly one million. The effort was successful and should be applauded.

But here is where things went off track. The spark that lit this energetic movement was Wankers attack on working families, stripping them of their right to collectively bargain. After the petitions were turned in, which was the main focus up to that point, TPTB huddled up to decide what the next step would be and to devise as strategy for the recall election campaign. As is SOP these days, polls were conducted to gauge voters stances on issues. The very sad fact is Wankers union bashing is not much frowned upon by many a Wisconsinite.

This upsets me greatly considering WI's rich progressive heritage. Home of visionary leaders- Fighting Bob LaFollette, Aldo Leopold, Russ Feingold, and more.

But, TPTB decided they were not going to focus on the stripping of collective bargaining rights because the polls showed it was not a winning issue. Very sad. As could be expected, workers who were the soul of this uprising became somewhat disillusioned, as our main cause has been thrown under the bus.

With that spark that ignited our outrage extinguished, the primary became a blurry mess. What would the campaign issues be, if not C.B.? Our unions at first said screw the polls and attempted to remain focused on C.B. They backed a pretty good candidate in Falk who very strongly stated she would re-implement our stripped rights.

Then, as days passed, and more polls were released, more focus was given to them. Falk didn't poll as well as Tom Barrett. So, support drifted to Barrett, despite the fact he's hardly a friend of workers.

What has gone on here in WI will and should be studied. I think when it all boils down, putting too much weight in polls to decide who our candidate is sapped the energy out of the movement. We should have stuck to the main issue, and put up a candidate that stood strong on that issue and would proudly run on it.

Might not be popular to say, but there you have it folks.
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Re: It's no fun waging war on those who suck-start their own weapons
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2012, 01:14:45 PM »
^Every bad lib idea has to die sometime.
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Re: It's no fun waging war on those who suck-start their own weapons
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2012, 01:15:46 PM »
Truth will not be tolerated at the DUmp.
The only real reason it was hidden was because none of them could refute the statement.
Had they been able to twist and spin it, it would have remained.
DUmmies, please, the blinders go a off to the side, they're not supposed to cover the eyes. :banghead:
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Re: It's no fun waging war on those who suck-start their own weapons
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2012, 02:08:55 PM »

Speaking of "those who suck-start their own weapons"...

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Re: It's no fun waging war on those who suck-start their own weapons
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2012, 04:54:21 PM »
June is going to be awesome. 

It will also be a but mere prelude to what will happen in November. 

Suck it, primitives! :evilbird:




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Re: It's no fun waging war on those who suck-start their own weapons
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2012, 06:56:51 PM »
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Re: It's no fun waging war on those who suck-start their own weapons
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2012, 07:12:22 PM »
People who own homes noticed they're property taxes went down for the first time, maybe ever?

Milwaukee had to fire 6,600 teachers because they locked in the teachers to a two year contract ahead of Act 10.

Madison did the same thing and tried to open up the contracts for renegotiation but I think the teacher's unions turned that down. Cannot remember what happened with that.

Right now, early voting has started and union thugs from Missouri have been spotted bringing busloads of people to vote. If you know anyone in WI who usually doesn't vote, please encourage them to vote for Walker, Kleefish and to be aware if their state senator is up for recall and vote for him too.
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Re: It's no fun waging war on those who suck-start their own weapons
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2012, 07:15:42 PM »
Quote from: Ballygrl on May 24, 2012, 06:56:51 PM
http://hotair.com/archives/2012/05/24/oh-my-walker-54-barrett-42/

Oh my: Walker 54, Barrett 42 in Wisconsin




What is amazing about that is how many public union households support Walker!
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Re: It's no fun waging war on those who suck-start their own weapons
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2012, 07:25:32 PM »
Quote from: Duke Nukum on May 24, 2012, 07:15:42 PM
What is amazing about that is how many public union households support Walker!

May as well just call it half, it's close enough. Some union people are smart enough to know when something is working not to mess with it.
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Re: It's no fun waging war on those who suck-start their own weapons
« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2012, 07:35:43 PM »
Quote from: Freeper on May 24, 2012, 07:25:32 PM
May as well just call it half, it's close enough. Some union people are smart enough to know when something is working not to mess with it.
Even with the minor changes in Act 10, state employees are still very, very well compensated.

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Re: It's no fun waging war on those who suck-start their own weapons
« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2012, 07:41:09 PM »
What cowardice. Liberals are tolerant and open minded just as long as you don't confront them with the truth.  :bird:
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Re: It's no fun waging war on those who suck-start their own weapons
« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2012, 07:50:46 PM »
Quote from: Ballygrl on May 24, 2012, 06:56:51 PM
http://hotair.com/archives/2012/05/24/oh-my-walker-54-barrett-42/

Oh my: Walker 54, Barrett 42 in Wisconsin


Borrowing this for another thread.

And yes Duke that's an amazing stat about public union households. :-)
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Re: It's no fun waging war on those who suck-start their own weapons
« Reply #18 on: May 24, 2012, 08:09:46 PM »
I am not surprised by the union household support, I am just surprised they admitted it to pollsters.  People run their own households like Conservatives.  They see when expenditures are out of control, and they recognize when sensible reductions work.  That leads me to a theory I have for not only this election, but also in November.  Obama may poll well (saying you won't vote for him again is raaaaaacist), but when people get to the voting booth, they will have to admit that what has been tried for the last 4 years just has NOT worked, and they know it.  They may never admit it, but they will vote for Walker in June, and Romney in November. 
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