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China Buying US Companies
« on: May 21, 2012, 05:53:54 AM »
Journalist Joe McDonald wrote for Associated Press 21 May 2012:
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A Chinese conglomerate announced Monday it will buy a major U.S. cinema chain, AMC Entertainment Holdings, for $2.6 billion in China's biggest takeover of an American company to date. Dalian Wanda Group Co.'s purchase reflects the global ambitions of a wave of cash-rich Chinese companies that are using acquisitions to speed their expansion by obtaining foreign skills and brand names.
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Re: China Buying US Companies
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2012, 10:03:45 PM »
I guess I'll be avoiding AMC.
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« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2012, 11:56:21 PM »
I guess I'll be avoiding AMC.

About once every 5 years I sit my butt through a movie at the theatre....and then that one is locally owned by the same family that owned it when I was a kid.
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Re: China Buying US Companies
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2012, 12:52:45 AM »
About once every 5 years I sit my butt through a movie at the theatre....and then that one is locally owned by the same family that owned it when I was a kid.
Quite a bit of nostalgia there. My Godfather used to live on the location of a former drive in theatre. There's not many of those left in operation either.
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Re: China Buying US Companies
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2012, 06:44:26 AM »
Quite a bit of nostalgia there. My Godfather used to live on the location of a former drive in theatre. There's not many of those left in operation either.

As a teenager back in the late 50's, early 60's, there were 3 drive-in theaters in my small town and they were all doing well. There were 3 walk-in theaters. I don't know of a drive-in within a 150 miles of me now days and there's only one walk-in in town and it's just barely hanging on.
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Re: China Buying US Companies
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2012, 08:27:43 AM »
People still go to movie theaters?
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Re: China Buying US Companies
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2012, 09:15:20 AM »
People still go to movie theaters?

I think it's been 15 years or more since I last went.   

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Re: China Buying US Companies
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2012, 09:25:31 AM »
Quite a bit of nostalgia there. My Godfather used to live on the location of a former drive in theatre. There's not many of those left in operation either.

There are two drive in theaters in my area.

As for AMC Entertainment? I never heard of them. Around here it is three Carmike Cinemas and one that is privately owned. And the one that is privately owned is the best one.  

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Re: China Buying US Companies
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2012, 11:32:40 PM »
As long as they are not buying companies that deal with national defense, I do not see a problem. US companies invest in shithole commie and muzzie countries also.

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Re: China Buying US Companies
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2012, 03:33:09 AM »
As long as they are not buying companies that deal with national defense, I do not see a problem. US companies invest in shithole commie and muzzie countries also.

One thing that should worry us though in terms of national defense is that they run the Panama Canal now.  They control the locks at both ends...and the Cinese Army has been allowed to train at our old bases there.

Imagine what will happen if they try to retake Taiwan and we want to transfer ships from the Atlantic to the Pacific to try and come to Taiwan's aid.
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Re: China Buying US Companies
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2012, 09:23:06 AM »
The last movie theater I was in was back in 2000, when I was a projectionist.
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Re: China Buying US Companies
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2012, 12:18:03 PM »
One thing that should worry us though in terms of national defense is that they run the Panama Canal now.  They control the locks at both ends...and the Cinese Army has been allowed to train at our old bases there.

Imagine what will happen if they try to retake Taiwan and we want to transfer ships from the Atlantic to the Pacific to try and come to Taiwan's aid.

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Re: China Buying US Companies
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2012, 12:30:12 PM »
One thing that should worry us though in terms of national defense is that they run the Panama Canal now.  They control the locks at both ends...and the Cinese Army has been allowed to train at our old bases there.

Imagine what will happen if they try to retake Taiwan and we want to transfer ships from the Atlantic to the Pacific to try and come to Taiwan's aid.

The Canal is in the process of being expanded and will double in capacity in 2014. It is my understanding that a rich Chinese man has purchased the locks and ports rather than the Chinese government.

I just do not think the Chinese will be that stupid to take Taiwan or restrict commerce and ships thru the canal. A nuke war would be one that the Chinese would lose and it would not be in their economic intrest either. Now, if the muzzies owned it, I would be worried.

Another thing that would help would be the US treating Panama like a red headed stepchild with trade agreements and the IRS demanding access to bank accounts of US citizens. 

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Re: China Buying US Companies
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2012, 04:51:48 PM »
The Canal is in the process of being expanded and will double in capacity in 2014. It is my understanding that a rich Chinese man has purchased the locks and ports rather than the Chinese government.

I just do not think the Chinese will be that stupid to take Taiwan or restrict commerce and ships thru the canal. A nuke war would be one that the Chinese would lose and it would not be in their economic intrest either. Now, if the muzzies owned it, I would be worried.

Another thing that would help would be the US treating Panama like a red headed stepchild with trade agreements and the IRS demanding access to bank accounts of US citizens. 

The Chinese have run the Panama Canal since Carter gave it to them. I forget the year.

What's the name on most of the containers going through there? COSCO - Chinese Container Service Company (or Chinese something). I wonder what's in all of those containers.
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Re: China Buying US Companies
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2012, 04:56:21 PM »
The Chinese have run the Panama Canal since Carter gave it to them. I forget the year.

What's the name on most of the containers going through there? COSCO - Chinese Container Service Company (or Chinese something). I wonder what's in all of those containers.

Finding out what is in the containers isn't that hard.  Most of them end up in the US.

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« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2012, 05:04:26 PM »
Finding out what is in the containers isn't that hard.  Most of them end up in the US.

But there aren't enough inspectors in the Coast Guard to check every one of them, and in every US port.
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« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2012, 05:55:40 PM »
But there aren't enough inspectors in the Coast Guard to check every one of them, and in every US port.

True, but would China want to damage their best market in the world?  They are gaining quickly enough economically with out resorting to a terrorist attack.

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« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2012, 05:59:15 PM »
True, but would China want to damage their best market in the world?  They are gaining quickly enough economically with out resorting to a terrorist attack.

About 20 years ago it was Japan that was buying up all of our real estate....  It was a huge concern for some people back then.


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« Reply #18 on: May 24, 2012, 06:02:34 PM »
About 20 years ago it was Japan that was buying up all of our real estate....  It was a huge concern for some people back then.




I remember all the fret and worry about that.  Back then, it was English companies that were really the largest owners of American properties.  However, the Japanese made an easier target since they are "different" from most of us.

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« Reply #19 on: May 24, 2012, 08:24:52 PM »
True, but would China want to damage their best market in the world?  They are gaining quickly enough economically with out resorting to a terrorist attack.

The widening of the canal will cut shipping costs dramatically from China to the East Coast, will allow larger ships to go thru there and cut delivery time . From what I have read, the Chinese have managed it more efficiently than when it was in US hands.

The Chinese have a vested economic interest in not screwing up a good deal when they see one.

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« Reply #20 on: May 24, 2012, 09:28:14 PM »
The Chinese have run the Panama Canal since Carter gave it to them. I forget the year.

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« Reply #21 on: May 24, 2012, 09:32:20 PM »
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Wikipedia ? Seriously ? I consider that a worthless link.
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« Reply #22 on: May 24, 2012, 09:33:46 PM »
True, but would China want to damage their best market in the world?  They are gaining quickly enough economically with out resorting to a terrorist attack.

Point taken, but exactly where are those thousands of containers loaded?

The last I heard and saw was the Japanese owned most of Hawaii.
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« Reply #23 on: May 24, 2012, 09:54:20 PM »
As long as they are not buying companies that deal with national defense, I do not see a problem. US companies invest in shithole commie and muzzie countries also.

China doesn't need to buy US defense companies, they have the best hackers on earth.  Look at the RSA attack that came from China.
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« Reply #24 on: May 24, 2012, 11:25:24 PM »
Wikipedia ? Seriously ? I consider that a worthless link.

More's the pity, then, that a site that you consider to be irrelevant even refutes your contention.

How about these, then:

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Panama would assume full control of canal operations and become primarily responsible for its defense.

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Carter agrees to transfer Panama Canal to Panama

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Panama would be in full control of the canal

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Under these accords, Panama will play an increasingly important role in the operation and defense of the canal during the next 23 years.

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Under the Panama Canal Treaty, Panama was given an increasing amount of responsibility for the operation and management of the Canal until the termination of the treaty at noon on December 31, 1999, Panama time. At that time, the United States would transfer full control of the Canal to Panama.

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