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Warren Stupidity (26,717 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail IgnoreMy aged mom watches a lot of shitty tv.I just spend three days with her and watched more sitcoms than I've watched in total over the last 30 years.Men get hit by women a lot on network sitcoms. It seems to be a very funny bit. I only noticed this because of that shitstorm in h&m that basically declared this forum a rightwing cesspool and a bunch of whiners and more or less declared that DV is an issue for women only.I cannot imagine a network sitcom in which the femaie characters were routinely hit in the face or threatened with violence.
Warren DeMontague (34,992 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore1. I can't watch crappy tv. Life is too short.I think it's worth examining these things in that context, though.. like, "what if that was reversed? It wouldn't be acceptable".I'm reminded of threads on the old DU, stories (I'm paraphrasing) where some guy got his dick stuck in a utility drawer or (worse) was mutilated in that area by his wife or girlfriend, and there would be a lineup of gleeful chortling until someone, invariably, would remind everyone that this was a real human being who experienced something terrible.And yeah, I mean, I can understand the impulse to laugh at first at a guy getting his dick stuck in a utility drawer. I'm not a saint.The other thing, I guess there's not a lot you can do about it with your situation, but man, there is so much good quality tv out there, now. It's a shame you can't get her to watch some other stuff. For your own sake as well as hers.
Warren Stupidity (26,717 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore2. Like I said, it ain't my choice.And my mom never watched that shit either until her brains went all mumbly. Such is life in your decline.There is indeed a ton of great stuff on tv. But her brains are up to friends, and just barely.
Warren DeMontague (34,992 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore3. Well, you have my sympathy.Not just for the crappy tv, but for the mom in decline. It's tough, I know.
lumberjack_jeff (21,074 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore4. This is an excellent point.It is ridiculous to suppose that we can bring girls up with the idea that it's okay to hit, and for that to not have ramifications.http://www.patientedu.org/aspx/HealthELibrary/HealthETopic.aspx?cid=M0907dStudies have shown that women are 70% of the perpetrators of non-reciprocal violence. The same study shows that 50% of domestic violence is reciprocal. Thus, 35% of all domestic violence is unilateral violence by women, 15% is unilateral violence by men and 50% is reciprocal.Yet, suggesting anything other than the party line; "Get tougher on that 15% because other kinds of violence are a myth", is subject to a massive outburst of righteous indignation.
libodem (8,235 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore5. To the moon, AliceRalph always seemed to be threatening to punch his wife but never did. That we saw. Both sexes can be provoked to violent behavior. Men by nature are stronger and have the male hormones that drive aggression. Testosterone verses estrogen. Men have much responsibility to maintain the drives that come with the chemistry because if they do go to beating us up we mostly come out on the losing end. It's pitiful to see a beaten woman or a child because of the power inequity. It is not a fair fight. I think most men must feel remorse at the loss of control and abuse of another. But do it over and over, without some treatment.The bad tv is another story. I've been next to bedridden for the last couple of years and had a tv with rabbit ears for entertainment. I've watched so much Raymond and Chris I'm warpped for life.
Kaleva (7,627 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore6. it's evolvingComedy based on the wife beating her husband has been around for a long time. One used to see that even in comic strips such as "Blondie" and "Snuffy Smith". It was funny because it wasn't threatening to those in position of power. It's slapstick.I'd have to do some serious digging but I do recall an article where Jackie Gleason discussed how the character Ralph was able to get away with his threats to send his wife Alice to the moon. Alice was portrayed as a strong woman who could more then hold her ground and who dismissed the threats as idle ones. It wouldn't have worked, I believe Jackie Gleason said, if Alice cried.Attitudes are changing and one can watch "Family Guy" to see that. Peter and Lois sometimes beat the shit out of each other and even in one scene where Peter tells Chris he is now the man of the house, the first thing Chris does is fart in Meg's face and then knocks out Lois with one punch.Such as thing wouldn't have been tolerated years ago, comedy wise. What's funny about a man hitting a member of the "weaker sex"? It was funny for the "weak" woman to rule over her bumbling idiot of a husband and occasionally bash him in the head with a frying pan.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody (7,275 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore7. No different than a lot of things on TVMen portrayed as knuckle dragging morons who need a woman to smarten them up in a present day comedy = not an issueWomen portrayed in a historically accurate drama about life 40 years as being mistreated by men emotionally, financially and sexually = massive outrage because OMG I think they are "glamorizing" it.
I don't think I've seen any TV sitcom where any woman was beating up the man... They must watch a lot of Lifetime.
UPN?
Is UPN still around? We had it in Wisconsin and I think in Arizona, but not sure if we have the UPN here in Nevada. If we do, I must scroll past it every single day.
UPN changed to CW here...not sure if that was national or just regional.
Oh okay.. we have CW. They mostly play glittery vampire type shows. Sometimes I can catch Judge Judy on there.
.I watch Maury (a guilty pleasure) and America's Next Top Model on CW.
Maury will always make your family seem 100% normal.
Meh. Nothings been good on TV since Lost in Space.
