primitives discuss uncharted territory in Wisconsin

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10842599

Oh my.

Here it is Sunday morning--and it was known yesterday, Saturday--and the primitives haven't mentioned the far-left-wing Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel endorsing Scott Walker.  Seeing nothing about it in the main forums, I wandered over to the Wisconsin forum on Skins's island to see what's up.

The primitives are mum there too.

Damn, why are the primitives always so far behind on the news?

Anyway.

hue (1,079 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

All Bets, and Polls, are Off in Wisconsin

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/05/17/1092522/-All-Bets-and-Polls-are-Off-in-Wisconsin

The right is trying to discourage us by pushing that Marquette poll saying that Barrett is 5 point down from Walker. I teach statistics and I can tell you that all polling is meaningless at this point. There are too many hangups from the Barrett supporters to get a meaningful sample. What's really going on is that what we're doing is too new to know what's going to happen. All bets are off.

We are in uncharted territory. We're on the cutting edge of unprecedented political change. This has the DNC running scared. The Koch Brothers running scared. ALEC running scared. This level of political involvement by normal middle Americans is everything they don't want to see. They are trying to drag us back to their narrative of dismal expectations. Forget it.

They foresaw none of this. Not Scott Walker being recalled. Not Scott Fitzgerald being recalled. Not Dale Schultz standing strong and blocking the mine. None of it. They saw none of it. They don't know what's gonna happen June 5th.

southernyankeebelle (5,765 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

1. I pray that the democrats win across the board in WI.

catbyte (1,502 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

2. I saw a poll that said Walker was up by 9

I've stopped looking at polls. Too upsetting.

zeemike (8,842 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

3. Well I am a cynical ****.

And I see the polls as an attempt to legitimize the theft of that election...I don't think they will allow any recall of walker even if they have to obviously steal the election...

And if they do steal it and it is obvious what will we do?....nothing but complain and be put into the dungeon of a conspiracy theorist and be ridiculed for it....they game us every time.

midnight (20,222 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

11. Interesting suggestion.... I just posted that the machines that will be used for this election are able to do just that...http://www.bradblog.com/?p=9302

global1 (9,245 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

4. I Hope These Polls Let The Koch Brothers And Walker Get Overconfident In Their Chances......

of winning. It would be nice to see them let their guard down and then get creamed in the election.

hue (1,079 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

5. Koch & co. never let their guard down.

The best way for us to win is for everyone to come together and there would be an overwhelming majority for Barrett.

Milw. has got to come out & vote!! In the primary only 28% of Milw.'s eligible voters came to the polls while in Waukesha approx. 39% voted.

Manufactured Consent (10 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

6. They are manufacturing consent

As Karl Rove said 'they create reality now'

They pay for some polls to make up the results they want...they pay the corporate media to pretend it is all true...they pay their minions to steal the election for them....then the media covers it all up afterward.

postulater (2,804 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

7. I just had a horrible walking nightmare.

Walker had lost.

He defunded the schools. They began to fail. His corporate backers came to the rescue and began buying naming rights to the schools. Later that became job training centers for the corporation's jobs. The corporation selected the students who excelled at manual labor and sent them to manual labor apprenticeships, those who were proficient at keying were sent to cashiering school. Since few people 'really' need a college education the few who have intellect are selected for the special college sponsored by the corporation.

Everyone becomes a nice profit center for the corporation which controls not only the product but the producer from cradle to grave.

I hope I wake up soon.

postulater (2,804 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

8. We never answer our phone, and I bet we get lots of those poll calls.

Big Tent (28 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

10. Turnout

Honestly I think Barrett can win this election. The polls maybe biased or it may be that the pollsters are uncertain of what democratic turnout will be, whereas its common knowledge that the republican voters in the state are going to turnout at a high level for Walker. The good news is that if we get a high enough democratic turnout Barrett wins because their are simply a lot more democratic potential voters than republican potential voters in the state.

[diesel driver]

Hey DUmmies!  Just remember one thing:

ALL YOUR DIEBOLD ARE BELONG TO US!!!!   

[Freeper]

They are gonna lose, every time they start crying about machines stealing elections they know they will lose. They convince themselves that they really won, but the repukes stole it, that way they never have to examine their own failures.

[BlueStateSaint]

They are gonna lose, every time they start crying about machines stealing elections they know they will lose. They convince themselves that they really won, but the repukes stole it, that way they never have to examine their own failures.

Exactly.  What reality is (for the lurkers), and what their "reality" is, are two vastly different things.  Most Americans aren't deadbeat lowlifes who feel, by virtue of the fact that they also consume oxygen, that they are entitled to the fruits of the labor of others.  Those others tend to be hardworking, decent, and civilized.  DUmb****s . . . not so much.

[Ballygrl]

catbyte (1,502 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

2. I saw a poll that said Walker was up by 9

I've stopped looking at polls. Too upsetting.

[diesel driver]

Just wait until the polls come out with Romney up by 15 in October.   

[BlueStateSaint]

Just wait until the polls come out with Romney up by 15 in October.   

Our advice to the DUmb****s will be--

Down the road, not across the street!

[diesel driver]

Our advice to the DUmb****s will be--

Down the road, not across the street!

Complete with illustrated chart.

Live demos by volunteer only.  (Must be democrat to be eligible.)   

[Ballygrl]

Just wait until the polls come out with Romney up by 15 in October. 

I never thought a Governors race, in a State I've never even been to, would be as exciting as the Presidential race.

[Ballygrl]

DU knows now:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10842678

hue
 
Journal Sentinel editorial board endorses Walker

The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel's editorial board announced its endorsement of Governor Walker Sunday, saying his "recall isn't justified."

Here is the link to JS statement: http://www.jsonline.com/news/opinion/we-recommend-walker-his-removal-isnt-justified-l55ecb6-152111305.html

ewagner
1. Shocked! Shocked I say!...n/t

tartan2
2. Money talks

somebody has a fatten bank account!

Star Member Scuba
3. The Urinal/Sentinel has been doing everything in its power to prop Walker up and ...

... support his campaign of lies. This is expected and will be dismissed by all those who know the truth.

Problem is, not all know, and the paper reaches many in the State.

Our response needs to be KEEP WORKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RBInMaine
4. Right wing rag like the Boston Herald and NY Post. Bunch of crap. Expected. JUST KEEP WORKING!

Marcia Brady
5. I saw that this morning and couldn't believe it!

I thought it had to be a joke! Can't imagine what they were thinking.

(Anyone know if they endorsed Obama in '08? If so, I wonder if that means anything for this year?)

SWTORFanatic
6. And the conservatives in the area call the JS a rag. Maybe because the JS

doesn't put out enough propaganda to make Goebbels blush like Belling, Wagner, Sykes, McKenna, and Weber?

undeterred
7. Don't pay attention to that piece of shit.

[Ballygrl]

Marcia Brady
5. I saw that this morning and couldn't believe it!

I thought it had to be a joke! Can't imagine what they were thinking.

(Anyone know if they endorsed Obama in '08? If so, I wonder if that means anything for this year?)

http://www.jsonline.com/news/opinion/33263704.html

It is Obama, in his first term as a U.S. senator, who offers the freshest face of change. He, more than McCain, offers the best chance for instilling in Americans a new sense of unity and purpose and restoring the image abroad of an America as worthy as its ideals.

Obama for President.

[franksolich]

It is Obama, in his first term as a U.S. senator, who offers the freshest face of change. He, more than McCain, offers the best chance for instilling in Americans a new sense of unity and purpose and restoring the image abroad of an America as worthy as its ideals.

Obama for President.

The Magic One sure did do that, didn't he?

[NHSparky]

Dear DUmmies:

[GOBUCKS]

I never thought a Governors race, in a State I've never even been to, would be as exciting as the Presidential race.

It's a lot like the Ward 1 city council race in Bellevue.

I just checked.

Tom Barrett, the democrat running to replace Governor Walker, apparently has no friends.

www.electtombarrett.com is a dead link.

[Mr Mannn]

When the DUmmies delude themselves like this, it just makes their reaction to the inevitable loss so much sweeter. The tears of mine enemies are sweet wine, their lamentations are sweet music to my ears.

I really hope DU lurkers are reading this. June will be a month of woe in DUmmyland. Walker wins, and Obama loses twice in the USSC. A month of bad news that will energize the conservatives and demoralize the useful idiots.

[thundley4]

Hey DUmmies!  Just remember one thing:

ALL YOUR DIEBOLD ARE BELONG TO US!!!!   

You know how the DUmmies are always whining about ATM fees?  The need to look at those ATMs more closely, they are made by Diebold, and Diebold gets a cut of every transaction fee. 

[obumazombie]

You know how the DUmmies are always whining about ATM fees?  The need to look at those ATMs more closely, they are made by Diebold, and Diebold gets a cut of every transaction fee. 

ATM's are one of the many excuses owebuma has made for his astounding high unemployment. I for one have never used one, and don't ever intend to.

[WinOne4TheGipper]

I see that they're already revving up the stolen election theories.  Part of me wants a blow-out to really embarrass them.  Another part would like it to be close, so that they can really go wild with heir batshit conspiracy theories.

[Freeper]

I see that they're already revving up the stolen election theories.  Part of me wants a blow-out to really embarrass them.  Another part would like it to be close, so that they can really go wild with heir batshit conspiracy theories.

Doesn't matter if we win by one vote, it was fraud, if we win by a million votes, it also was fraud. They have convinced themselves that a super majority of Americans think like they do, so any repuke win has to be fraud.

[Ballygrl]

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/05/24/oh-my-walker-54-barrett-42/

Oh my: Walker 54, Barrett 42 in Wisconsin

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

midnight (20,222 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

11. Interesting suggestion.... I just posted that the machines that will be used for this election are able to do just that...http://www.bradblog.com/?p=9302

Brad Blog belongs to Brad Friedman who co-founded Velvet Revolution with Brett Kimberlin, the convicted drug-dealer and serial bomber who violently stalks those who report on his personal history.

Why is DU endorsing the associates of known terrorists?