crooked tale primitive going to jail

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3287600

Oh my.

The crooked tale primitive's in some trouble, it seems.

The Straight Story  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu May-15-08 02:56 AM
Original message

BWAHAHAHAH I face 30 days to a year in jail. Too damned funny
   
As I posted in Feb. I was pulled over here in CA for running a stop sign and not having a valid Driver's License.

I am all for paying a fine and moving on. I did coast through that stop sign on the way home from taking my daughter to school. No one else around and I was turning right.

Never had a ticket before, and I am 42.

After my mom died and I was living in Ohio I was not really thinking about my license. Turns out it expired there in Ohio last year in October. I moved here and had a residence in Ohio, so I was covered in not getting a CA driver's license technically. But then I forgot my license was up for renewal in 2007 (and since I was not there I did not get the notice). The wife and I even talked about me moving back to Ohio for a spell to find work, so I was in no Hurry to change over to a CA license.

My car was impounded (car was not in my name, and have already paid $500 to get it out), I got it back. And I called weekly to see what I owed so I could be a good guy and pay it. Finally I got a court notice this week (hello, this is MAY). I face a fine for the stop sign and 30 days to a year in Jail for not having a valid license.

I just have to laugh at this point.

bush and crew **** us over, lie to get us in a war, thousands of US troops dead, many more maimed and/or wounded, and a guy like me is facing jail over having a license that was not renewed.

God is this a ****ed up country or what?

For over 20 years I have renewed my license by simply paying a fee. I forget once because I was going through absolute hell (mom died, many others died, wife got diagnosed with parkinson's, etc and so on) and I have to worry about going to jail????

Sure, I can get an attorney, but that costs money. And I have been out of work since July mostly (I have a job now).

The America I once believed in is dead.

Maybe I should have voted for a war to kill people. Maybe I should have made up lies about said war. Maybe seeing thousands upon thousands die is a good thing.

Bush is walking free, while his lies have killed so many. Me? I face jail time and fines I cannot even begin to afford because I forgot to send money to a state agency.

Yeah - I was wrong. But before you punish me with glee, remember that it was not me that made the decisions to send so many to their final resting place based on LIES.

I made an honest mistake. In the future I will do my best to lie and manipulate things....

It's a big bonfire, so the first half dozen primitive comments as a sampler:

sandnsea  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu May-15-08 03:00 AM
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1. Fix your driver's license and go to court. You'll get a fine, maybe less if you explain your financial circumstances. And yes it annoys me what people will do to each other over next to nothing, but let these sob's get away with all kinds of horror and corruption. I don't undertand it.

The Straight Story  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu May-15-08 03:01 AM
Response to Reply #1

2. I fixed it
   
I now have a CA Driver's license.

sandnsea  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu May-15-08 03:07 AM
Response to Reply #2

9. They don't have room for you in jail
   
They'll probably work out a payment plan if there's a fine too. Don't worry about it, just do go to court.

Hissyspit  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu May-15-08 03:02 AM
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3. Get an attorney. Find the money.   

If you've no priors you might get a prayer for judgment continued if they have that in CA.

Traffic courts like it if you have a lawyer to take care of things properly and move them along. And the lawyers usually know exactly what to do to keep fines and sentences down and keep your insurance down. That will save you money in the long run.

sfexpat2000  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu May-15-08 03:09 AM
Response to Reply #3

13. He likely qualifies for the Public Defender or the sliding scale attonerys from the local bar.

midnight  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu May-15-08 08:19 AM
Response to Reply #3

55. That sounds down right dreamy.... But sadly that is not so.
   
These attorney's know how to keep things not moving along. They know how to squeeze every dollar possible from a misfortunate situation..... Do talk to an attorney and see if she or he puts everything in writing. That will be all the information you need about how much a ride they will take you on.

The above are the first six primitives; it's well worth hauling out the boat and rowing over the Skins's island to see the whole bonfire, the primitives gathered around.

When looking to see if the lying titty primitive showed up, I noticed there's a casual primitive at this bonfire, stirring up the primitives, especially Doug's ex-wife.

[VivisMom]

Maybe I should have voted for a war to kill people. Maybe I should have made up lies about said war. Maybe seeing thousands upon thousands die is a good thing.

Maybe you should have gotten your ass off the internet and renewed your license.

[JohnnyReb]

Simple solution for DUmmie -----just pick one up on any street corner like the illegal-aliens do.....hell, you might even get to vote more than one time.

[Sonnabend]

My car was impounded (car was not in my name, and have already paid $500 to get it out), I got it back

Meanwhile, someone else went without THEIR car because you were too careless to get your license renewed. Lazy baggage.

I face a fine for the stop sign and 30 days to a year in Jail for not having a valid license.

It has been an offence to drive with an expired drivers license for over fifty years.It is an offence to drive though a stop sign and always has been. Your point is..?

For over 20 years I have renewed my license by simply paying a fee. I forget once because I was going through absolute hell (mom died, many others died, wife got diagnosed with parkinson's, etc and so on) and I have to worry about going to jail????

Law applies to you, no excuses.Blowing that stop sign may have caused an accident and killed someone. RED means STOP, idiot.

The America I once believed in is dead.

Well since you live in la la land, I'd say your brain died a long time before that.

bush and crew **** us over, lie to get us in a war.

Which is in itself a lie since he didn't, and none of this has any bearing on the fact that you didn't pay your licence fee and went through a stop sign.

Next time, pay the fee, and obey the flutting traffic signs. Idiots like you cause road fatalities.

Oh..you live in Kaliforniastan..that explains a lot.

thousands of US troops dead, many more maimed and/or wounded, and a guy like me is facing jail over having a license that was not renewed.

Well maybe you better go sign up, that way you can be in Iraq and not have to pay a licence fee.

Mind you, you're probably too much of a coward to ever have served. Only person you care about is you.

Incidentally, I see you remembered to pay your internet bill...so how did you remember that and still not remember to pay the licence?

Too bust postwhoring on DU, methinks.

I made an honest mistake. In the future I will do my best to lie and manipulate things....

..oh the HUMANITY......

[DixieBelle]

If he has paid the fine, gotten his car back, gotten the CA license, he only needs to go before the judge to plead his case.

Effin' drama queen.

[jukin]

It still mystifies me that the DUmmies have such a cognitive dissonance about wanting more and more regulations and government yet when they come into contact hating more regulations and government.

I still cannot figure out if liberalism makes one mentally unbalanced because you have to have so many twists in logic to believe in it or do you have to start out being mentally unbalanced to believe in liberalism?  Doesn't matter the end is all the same but inquiring minds would like to know.

[Carl]

Turns out it expired there in Ohio last year in October. I moved here and had a residence in Ohio, so I was covered in not getting a CA driver's license technically. But then I forgot my license was up for renewal in 2007 (and since I was not there I did not get the notice).

Hey DUmbass when you move you always have to leave a forwarding address at the post office if you expect important mail to get to ya.

Silly little things like insurance,registrations,licences and such.

Something tells me much about this whole story is bs.
He cried the same nonsense earlier "How come he is punished and the President isn`t WAAAAAAAA!!"

Going back to the same polluted well for more pats on the back.

[Ralph Wiggum]

Only a DUmmy could spin a simple traffic ticket into a massive case of BDS.

[TheSarge]

So the DUmmie wants to hire a damn attorney to fight a couple of moving violations?
 

I face a fine for the stop sign and 30 days to a year in Jail for not having a valid license.

And all of that will go away if you simply show up in MUNICIPAL COURT and present the Judge with a valid DL.

But that doesn't fit your little story does it?  Can't slip some gratuitous Bush bashing in there if you tell the ENTIRE story can you?

No you can't.

So instead of just doing what millions others do that have gotten the same tickets as you....YOU decide to turn it into your defining moment...the point at which you say "I'm mad as hell and I'm not gonna take it anymore"...and stop obeying the laws of the land because that  Booooooooooooooosh lied us into a war!

On second thought...I hope they DO lock you up...stupid like yours should be put in solitary confinement for a long LONG time.

[franksolich]

And all of that will go away if you simply show up in MUNICIPAL COURT and present the Judge with a valid DL.

But that doesn't fit your little story does it?  Can't slip some gratuitous Bush bashing in there if you tell the ENTIRE story can you?

No you can't.

So instead of just doing what millions others do that have gotten the same tickets as you....YOU decide to turn it into your defining moment...the point at which you say "I'm mad as hell and I'm not gonna take it anymore"...and stop obeying the laws of the land because that  Booooooooooooooosh lied us into a war!

On second thought...I hope they DO lock you up...stupid like yours should be put in solitary confinement for a long LONG time.

You know, the crooked tale primitive is the master of misdirected anger.

It's easier to blame things on a president, than on oneself, when one has problems.

[DixieBelle]

I'm thinking that the threat of jail time stems from a Failure to Appear in court initially. I could be wrong though.

[BlueStateSaint]

I'm thinking that the threat of jail time stems from a Failure to Appear in court initially. I could be wrong though.

I'm with you on this.

[PatriotGame]

I just have to laugh at this point.

bush and crew **** us over, lie to get us in a war, thousands of US troops dead, many more maimed and/or wounded, and a guy like me is facing jail over having a license that was not renewed.

God is this a ****ed up country or what?

Now wait just a damn minute here Mr.! President Bush had nothing to do with this!
It is or should be public knowledge that the VRWC controls the news media in such a manner that all you hear is blah, blah, blah, Bush is evil, America is DOOMED, and your rights are nill. This in turn has the positive effect of driving you freaks on the left into a daily hate-filled head exploding rampage.
Your angst is our pleasure.

Additionally, the VRWC has inside controls over the DMV in all 50 states.

The VRWC is solely responsible for your problems so you had better damn well give credit where credit is due. Unless of course you want your life to be more hell than it is now.

As for this country being "****ed up" that is only partially true and only because you live in it.

Enjoy your stay in jail and remember this:

This is you're asshole now: -> .
This is your asshole in Jail: -> O

You go now girl...

[Chris_]

The America I once believed in is dead.

And it was your communist buddies who killed it.

[dandi]

Hell man, just take your shiny new license to traffic court to show the judge. If you're not lying about it being a first offense you'll probably get a moderate fine and be charged court costs.

Just because there's no Chimpeachment forthcoming for all those imaginary crimes doesn't mean the rest of the nation's justice system gets put on hold.

You screwed up. Suck it up and deal with the consequences.

[BlueStateSaint]

Hell man, just take your shiny new license to traffic court to show the judge. If you're not lying about it being a first offense you'll probably get a moderate fine and be charged court costs.

Just because there's no Chimpeachment forthcoming for all those imaginary crimes doesn't mean the rest of the nation's justice system gets put on hold.

You screwed up. Suck it up and deal with the consequences.

H5 for applying cold reality . . .

[Chris_]

You know why he can't keep a job ?  He's a nut and claims he's overqualified for every position.  Then he posts he can't understand why no one appreciates his intelligence.

He's one strange dude.  Nothing is ever his fault.

 

[BamaMoose]

I thought the DUmmies were all smart and had google-foo and what not.

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/calaw.html provides all sorts of information about CA Legal Code, including Vehicle Code 40611 which states that upon proof of correction of a violation of driving with an improper/expired license a $10 fee shall be collected by the Clerk of the Court.  Of course, this is just the fine and there may be all sorts of applicable processing fee and court fees, which California is so fond of, but no criminal penalties for driving with an expired license seem to appear in a quick perusal of the Code.

However, when you dig a little deeper into the Code to find out how you could possibly be threatened with a 30 day to 1 year stint for an expired license you find all sorts of interesting ways of ending up in jail for an invalid license.  It appears that you need to be running around on a suspended or revoked license before criminal penalties start to come into play.  It also appears that the suspension/revocation needs to be due to multiple cites for DUI or reckless driving.

Is the man keeping the Straight Story down??  Or do DUmmies lie???

[RobJohnson]

I thought the DUmmies were all smart and had google-foo and what not.

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/calaw.html provides all sorts of information about CA Legal Code, including Vehicle Code 40611 which states that upon proof of correction of a violation of driving with an improper/expired license a $10 fee shall be collected by the Clerk of the Court.  Of course, this is just the fine and there may be all sorts of applicable processing fee and court fees, which California is so fond of, but no criminal penalties for driving with an expired license seem to appear in a quick perusal of the Code.

However, when you dig a little deeper into the Code to find out how you could possibly be threatened with a 30 day to 1 year stint for an expired license you find all sorts of interesting ways of ending up in jail for an invalid license.  It appears that you need to be running around on a suspended or revoked license before criminal penalties start to come into play.  It also appears that the suspension/revocation needs to be due to multiple cites for DUI or reckless driving.

Is the man keeping the Straight Story down??  Or do DUmmies lie???

Even with those examples, the jail time starts at five days.......not 30...

[JohnnyReb]

....and once he's in jail, he can just disappear into one of the new camps. Send the illegals home, we have a new labor force coming online.

[Willow]

the vewwwwy first excuse out of his mouth was bush and crew **** us over, lie to get us in a war, thousands of US troops dead, many more maimed and/or wounded, and a guy like me is facing jail over having a license that was not renewed.





he is to dumb to live, maybe his year in jail could be well served with some remedial "take care of your business" time!