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St Trayvon had doobage in his system - DUgasm gathers
« on: May 17, 2012, 06:06:53 PM »
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ABC Breaking News: Trayvon Martin Had "Drugs In His System"!!! (it was THC)
http://twitter.com/ABC/status/203227940362797056

http://abcnews.go.com/US/trayvon-martin-documents-released-shooting-george-zimmerman/story?id=16371852#.T7VuduhQ4oR

Reefer Madness lives. Meanwhile, we'll never know what drugs or how drunk George Zimmerman might have been that night, something a hospital trip that night might have revealed.

You DUmmies should REALLY let this one go.

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marijuana makes one less aggressive. but why.do I suspect that isn't how it is being played?

Marijuana makes one HIGH, and that matters for character.

Let's face it - Zimmerman appears to have acted in self defense, and it can even be argued that Trayvon needed killing.
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Re: St Trayvon had doobage in his system - DUgasm gathers
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2012, 06:21:36 PM »
Wrong DUmbasses - this is from your beloved wiki :

Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_cannabis
Psychoactive effects

The psychoactive effects of cannabis, known as a "high", are subjective and can vary based on the individual and the method of use.

Cannabis is often considered an atypical, unique and sometimes paradoxical psychotropic due to its vast and sometimes contradictory array of effects. The subjective experience induced by using cannabis can be considered stimulatory and yet also sedative or depressant, while also having markedly mild psychedelic and even dissociative characteristics.

As the chemical THC reaches parts of the brain, it attaches to cannabinoid receptors. Usually the receptors are blocked by anandamide produced at low rates by the body, but the large percent of THC increases the blocking of the receptors, and allows dopamine to flow freely. As dopamine reaches the receptors, the body experiences a heightened focus, and a greater level of perception, sometimes resulting in extremely elevated emotions and feelings.

Some effects may include a general alteration of conscious perception, euphoria, feelings of well-being, relaxation or stress reduction, increased appreciation of humor, music or the arts, joviality, metacognition and introspection, enhanced recollection (episodic memory), increased sensuality, increased awareness of sensation, increased libido,[27] and creativity. Abstract or philosophical thinking, disruption of linear memory and paranoia or anxiety are also typical. Anxiety is the most commonly reported side effect of smoking marijuana[citation needed]. Between 20 and 30 percent of recreational users experience intense anxiety and/or panic attacks after smoking cannabis.[28]

So, 20 to 30 percent of tokers aren't all chillaxin' and mellow, and instead suffering from anxiety and/or panic attacks...  Funny that, eh, DU ?
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Re: St Trayvon had doobage in his system - DUgasm gathers
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2012, 06:22:00 PM »
Called dope for a reason.
Suck it, DUmpmonkeys.
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Re: St Trayvon had doobage in his system - DUgasm gathers
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2012, 06:34:21 PM »
I bet the police did do blood tests on Zimmerman. I bet all it showed was the medications he was on for his ADHD. DUmmies will cry again...

I think we should all contribute monies to buy all the DUmmies a Lachrymatory (tear catcher).

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Re: St Trayvon had doobage in his system - DUgasm gathers
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2012, 06:36:34 PM »
Quote from: Skul on May 17, 2012, 06:22:00 PM
Called dope for a reason.
Suck it, DUmpmonkeys.

Indeed -

I wonder how many DUmmies are now looking up 'Panic Attack' in Wikipedia, to discover that the primary chemical released during one is adrenaline ? And that the attack often triggers classic "Fight-or-flight" response ?

So, sweet Tray finished his righteous bowl, went looking for some skittles because he had the munchies, ended up in a neighborhood watch patrolled gated community, realized he was being followed, had a panic attack, which flooded him with adrenaline, he chose 'Fight', assaulted Zimmerman in a clouded, adrenaline fueled rage, and ended up fatally wounded because of it ?

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Re: St Trayvon had doobage in his system - DUgasm gathers
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2012, 06:42:58 PM »
Quote from: BEG on May 17, 2012, 06:34:21 PM
I bet the police did do blood tests on Zimmerman. I bet all it showed was the medications he was on for his ADHD. DUmmies will cry again...

I think we should all contribute monies to buy all the DUmmies a Lachrymatory (tear catcher).



They ain't worth it.  I suggest we get them this instead ( to share )

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Re: St Trayvon had doobage in his system - DUgasm gathers
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2012, 06:56:23 PM »
Wow. It seems that nothing is going the DUmmies' way on the Trayvon front.

Mr. Rogers, not the one with the neighborhood, said that you've got to know when to hold'em, know when to fold'em, know when to walk away, and know when to run. I think it might be best for the DU to go the 'run' route. Of course, that wouldn't be very entertaining for us so...
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Re: St Trayvon had doobage in his system - DUgasm gathers
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2012, 07:06:42 PM »
The DUches stuck with MIOP & LIHOP against the mountains of proof. This will in the end run be something that is all tied to the BFEE.

Far any lurkers, shit like this is why we make so much fun of you...and yes you are the internets laughingstock.  The best part is that you all think you are some kind of anything north of 85 IQ points.
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Re: St Trayvon had doobage in his system - DUgasm gathers
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2012, 07:13:51 PM »
Quote from: jukin on May 17, 2012, 07:06:42 PM
The DUches stuck with MIOP & LIHOP against the mountains of proof. This will in the end run be something that is all tied to the BFEE.

Far any lurkers, shit like this is why we make so much fun of you...and yes you are the internets laughingstock.  The best part is that you all think you are some kind of anything north of 85 IQ points.

The thing is, they are all walking in lock step. To be a lib is to believe that Zimmerman is a white racist Repuke just gunning to kill himself a young black boy. Reality, Zimmerman is a "white"  democratIC Hispanic (LOL) who lived in a neighborhood with a lot of break-ins.  They always double down when reality smacks them in the face.

Ask youself DUmmies, why would we get behind Zimmerman?  He is one of yours. Trayvon would have been one of yours too if/when he decided to vote. We have no dog in this hunt, well besides the truth.
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Re: St Trayvon had doobage in his system - DUgasm gathers
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2012, 07:17:12 PM »
Zimmerman abhors milk chocolate.
Good to go.
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Re: St Trayvon had doobage in his system - DUgasm gathers
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2012, 07:25:08 PM »
Quote from: Skul on May 17, 2012, 07:17:12 PM
Zimmerman abhors milk chocolate.
Good to go.
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Re: St Trayvon had doobage in his system - DUgasm gathers
« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2012, 07:26:26 PM »
Quote from: BEG on May 17, 2012, 07:13:51 PM
The thing is, they are all walking in lock step. To be a lib is to believe that Zimmerman is a white racist Repuke just gunning to kill himself a young black boy. Reality, Zimmerman is a "white"  democratIC Hispanic (LOL) who lived in a neighborhood with a lot of break-ins.  They always double down when reality smacks them in the face.

Ask youself DUmmies, why would we get behind Zimmerman?  He is one of yours. Trayvon would have been one of yours too if/when he decided to vote. We have no dog in this hunt, well besides the truth.

They make their minds up and facts can't change them.

Elizabeth Warren may (or may not be) 1 32nd Native American - so she is a Native American.
George Zimmerman has one black grandparent or great-grandparent (That makes him 1 4th or 1 8th black) - so he is white.
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Re: St Trayvon had doobage in his system - DUgasm gathers
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2012, 07:26:37 PM »
Quote from: jukin on May 17, 2012, 07:06:42 PM
The best part is that you all think you are some kind of anything north of 85 IQ points.

Combined.  Across all of their members.
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Re: St Trayvon had doobage in his system - DUgasm gathers
« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2012, 08:22:22 PM »
Quote from: FlippyDoo on May 17, 2012, 06:56:23 PM
Wow. It seems that nothing is going the DUmmies' way on the Trayvon front.

No it's not.

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ABC News also reports injuries to Martin that supports Zimmerman's contention that there was a physical struggle between the two young men:

The autopsy also shows that Zimmerman shot Martin from a distance of between 1 inch and 18 inches away, bolstering Zimmerman's claim that he shot Martin during a struggle that landed Zimmerman on his back, Martin straddling him and banging Zimmerman's head on the ground.
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Re: St Trayvon had doobage in his system - DUgasm gathers
« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2012, 08:27:25 PM »
Back in the day pot was often laced with paraquot, or angel dust. Now that today's pot is so potent it doesn't need an extra kick, but how does any user know what's in it ? It's not like it's FDA regulated or anything. The only exception is if you grow your own, and no one else had any access to it.
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Re: St Trayvon had doobage in his system - DUgasm gathers
« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2012, 08:30:31 PM »
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marijuana makes one less aggressive. but why.do I suspect that isn't how it is being played?

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

Alcohol makes some people less aggressive (as in, "OMG I love you guys!)... others have a harder time handling alcohol and turn into a UFC fighter... or so they think.
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Re: St Trayvon had doobage in his system - DUgasm gathers
« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2012, 08:34:09 PM »
Quote from: FlippyDoo on May 17, 2012, 06:56:23 PM
Wow. It seems that nothing is going the DUmmies' way on the Trayvon front.

Mr. Rogers, not the one with the neighborhood, said that you've got to know when to hold'em, know when to fold'em, know when to walk away, and know when to run. I think it might be best for the DU to go the 'run' route. Of course, that wouldn't be very entertaining for us so...

I think the fix is in for George, the Feds are going to find a way to **** him up.
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Re: St Trayvon had doobage in his system - DUgasm gathers
« Reply #17 on: May 17, 2012, 09:25:55 PM »
UhOh -- A noob attempts to address the Mellow Myth and gets slammed for using unapproved sources...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002699216

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Marijuana use connected to aggression

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 I've read comments here that pot makes one more laid back, mellow and less prone to aggression and violent behavior... studies say otherwise...


AMSTERDAM, Netherlands, Feb. 1 (UPI) -- A Dutch study on the effects of marijuana use on teenagers suggests a connection with aggressive behavior.

The BBC reports researchers at the Trimbos Institute in the Netherlands found 17 percent of the 5,551 12 to 16-year-olds questioned had used marijuana within the past year. The study found the higher the frequency and amount of marijuana use, the more aggressive behavior the teenager showed.

A recent study by the British Journal of Psychiatry found similar results.

A 2005 report by the Schools Health Education Unit in Britain found 25 percent of 14- and 15-year-olds smoked pot.

Read more: http://www.upi.com/Business_News/2006/02/01/Study-Link-between-marijuana-aggression/UPI-28721138819619/#ixzz1vBESUXf0



Marijuana Use Linked to Risk of Psychotic Symptoms
Study Shows Association Between Development of Psychosis and Smoking Marijuana
By Denise Mann
WebMD Health News Reviewed by Laura J. Martin, MD

March 1, 2011 -- Adolescents and young adults who smoke marijuana have an increased risk for experiencing psychotic symptoms, according to a new study.

The new findings appear online in the journal BMJ.

Researchers assessed marijuana use during a 10-year study of 1,923 participants aged 14 to 24 in Germany.

Those participants who had no psychotic symptoms and had never tried marijuana when the study began and then started using marijuana had nearly double the risk of experiencing psychotic symptoms in the future.

And those who used marijuana before start of the study and who continued use over the study period had an increased risk of persistent psychotic symptoms, the study shows.

http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/news/20110301/marijuana-use-linked-to-risk-of-psychotic-symptoms


Does smoking marijuana cause aggression?

In general, after using marijuana a person experiences a sedating effect, which makes the drug less likely to cause violence in users than other substances such as alcohol and stimulants (e.g., amphetamines and cocaine).

However, sometimes when marijuana is used it can cause fear, anxiety, panic or paranoia, which can result in an aggressive outburst. For most people, however, once the effects of the drug wear off, their behaviour gradually improves.

Studies show that violence can occur more often among people who use marijuana regularly, rather than those who use it occasionally or not at all. It is unclear why this is the case, but it may be because people with violent tendencies can also have a range of other psychosocial problems and are therefore more likely to use marijuana. marijuana is also part of the illegal drug market, which may increase the chances of violence occurring in some social interactions.

Why do people become abusive or aggressive?

Using marijuana can produce strange behaviour and reactions in people when they are intoxicated. These reactions can be similar to psychosis and paranoia and because of this, marijuana users may experience the following:

confusion – they misunderstand what is going on or what someone has said or done
feeling threatened or frightened
paranoia – they hear voices or think that people are out to get them

http://adai.washington.edu/marijuana/factsheets/aggression.htm

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Re: St Trayvon had doobage in his system - DUgasm gathers
« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2012, 12:19:23 AM »
Good find.

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35. That is also my experience and I have been around pot smokers for many years. More likely to go

to sleep than start a fight. 
Ya think??

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3. Such bullshit!

National Cannabis Prevention and Information Center?

OK, then.

This is complete bullshit propaganda. They are really stretching here to connect pot & violence.
Aren't you supposed to be asleep or something..something..somehting]

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19. Marijuana Use Linked to Risk of Psychotic Symptoms
Say it ain't so.

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Thu May 17, 2012, 08:17 PM
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31. Pantload.

Total bullshit. These are "researchers" with an agenda.

There's plenty of bullshit propaganda "studies" out there. The real science shows cannabis to be awesome.
While lighting up.

Look who pops up.
A real ass, but I'll look at what he says.
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47. Go ahead: Show your naivete by arguing it ONLY makes you MELLOWWWW...

Over 600 hispanic gangs in L.A. County alone. Over 400 black gangs in the same county.

I have an idea and it's the PERFECT answer to gang violence... LET'S GIVE THEM ALL MARIJUANA! After all, it'll make them mellowwwww, right?

According to what I'm seeing in this thread, the antidote to gang violence in So. Cal. is weed. Because you know, they're NOT out there rolling blounts before they go looking for trouble, nope uh uh. If they were, they'd be mellowwwwww, eating Doritos, and playing xBox 360 right? Right?

Over 1,000 gangs in L.A. County, and most of them stoned all the time. Makes you wonder why there's so much gang violence in So. Cal., doesn't it? Seeing as how weed makes you mellowwww?

It makes you mellow if you're predisposed to be mellow, as I'm assuming most DU'ers are, and it makes you other things if you're predisposed to be other things.

A couple lines of meth used to have me sitting on my ass while a few bonghits would have me mowing the front and back lawns, edging the sidewalk in front, cleaning it all up, and then starting on the garage. What you think you know about drugs and how they affect everyone isn't always how it works in real life.

Disclaimer: No matter how badly someone might want this to be, it's NOT a defense of Zimmerman nor is it a takedown of Trayvon Martin. It's an observation about how broad brushes usually leave blotchy streaks on the wall.
I wonder if the DUmpmonkeys realize, CP, just spanked their collective ass.
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