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Re: poll: how do you rate Operation Omaha Steve?
« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2012, 09:03:11 PM »
Well, as has already been related in another thread here, we were somewhat rougher with the big guy, than we usually are with the primitives.

That's because we were using the primitives' own "Sarah Palin rule," where everything goes, instead of being more restrained in our critiques of the primitives as we usually are.

Generally the DUmpster comes down on the primitives like a feather being swatted on a primitive's shoulder.

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Re: poll: how do you rate Operation Omaha Steve?
« Reply #26 on: May 16, 2012, 09:09:38 PM »
He really needed to remove himself from DU before running- one thing the administrators did right with the design of the website (in all of its incarnations) was maintain the database at all costs. All of the posts that ended up in the archives are still there, and they are real easy to search through. By tying his campaign to DU, he tied all of the site to his campaign - including the embarrassing things he posted and forgot about. Lessons learned, I suppose.

You know, if franksolich were to run for a public office--say, for example, public surveyor of Knox County, Nebraska--I have no doubt the primitives would hold nothing back in trying to disparage me.,

I've been on the internet a very long time, since mid-1996, and always as franksolich, no other screen-name.

I haven't ever posted on what could be described as an extremist or Hate site, but I've posted a Hell of a lot of things.  And the more one talks, even at innocuous places, the more likely it is one's said something really stupid or ridiculous.  I have no idea how much of franksolich is on the internet--maybe six or half a dozen pages--but there's probably some things I've said that now, I'd be embarrassed.

In fact, right here on conservativecave, I said some pretty stupid things, but fortunately Eupher and Wasp69 immediately called me to task for them, and so the damage to my reputation, while there, was minimal.  And JakeStyle too, who saved me from making an ass of myself just as I was coming out an ass.

So.....if I were to run for public office, the malicious primitives would find plenty of fertile ground.

However.

However.

However.

One can't disavow what one has said, and so I can't, or won't, do that, no matter how silly it was.

I'd just take it in stride; excresence happens, nobody's perfect, God loves us all.
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Re: poll: how do you rate Operation Omaha Steve?
« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2012, 09:12:31 PM »
Maybe, with a little good fortune, he will try to blame coach !

Well, I'm obviously used to it.

I have no doubt the pie-and-jam primitive, grasswire Sherlock Judy, has already widely defamed franksolich as such.
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Re: poll: how do you rate Operation Omaha Steve?
« Reply #28 on: May 16, 2012, 09:16:22 PM »
I voted for turned out about the way I thought it would. My honest opinion is that we probably really had no affect on this race, what brought him down was his poorly run campaign.
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Re: poll: how do you rate Operation Omaha Steve?
« Reply #29 on: May 16, 2012, 09:23:12 PM »
Should have been one of those old boards with holes drilled in them that old school principles would use to whoop kids asses with. :p

I've heard of those, but I've never seen one, and besides, I never got paddled in school.

However, I've always been mystified as to why holes in the board would make any sort of difference.
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Re: poll: how do you rate Operation Omaha Steve?
« Reply #30 on: May 16, 2012, 09:27:47 PM »
My honest opinion is that we probably really had no effect on this race, what brought him down was his poorly run campaign.

Actually, yes, when one comes down to the bottom line, that's very true.

The only possible effect www.electstevedawes.com and the DUmpster had on this campaign was that they messed with the big guy's head.

I mean, I seriously doubt voters in Bellevue were consulting there and here, to find out about candidates--although it must be pointed out conservativecave collected a modest number of new members during Operation Omaha Steve, from the Omaha metropolitan area.

It used to be that dutch508--neighbor of the next U.S. Senator from Nebraska--and franksolich were the only members here from Nebraska, but it's been nice seeing our numbers since augmented by more.
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Re: poll: how do you rate Operation Omaha Steve?
« Reply #31 on: May 16, 2012, 09:34:28 PM »
It turned out about the the way I thought it would.

Steve was hugely incompetent, he lost, and that loss was deserved.

I didn't then and I still don't believe that I understand the political environment of Bellevue, little on, Nebraska but it seems to have worked out for the better.

The election in 2008 surprised the heck out of me, how the heck could this amateur be elected, on the other side our nominee had alot to be desired.

I guess the lesson to be learned, again, is to not take things for granted (I don't mean OS, he was doomed, I mean real elections).

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Re: poll: how do you rate Operation Omaha Steve?
« Reply #32 on: May 16, 2012, 09:44:39 PM »
That was I, the day the big guy announced.

I thought it was a mistake he announced his candidacy right there on Skins's island, but that couldn't be helped; it was already a fait accompli, a done thing, and one can't go back and change history.

It would've been better if he announced in front of the office of the Sarpy County Democrats, or at the city hall, or something like that, no mention of it on Skins's island.

However, I thought the damage could be minimized if after that announcement, the big guy just evaporated from Skins's island.  No message of farewell, no other sorts of comments.  Just immediately going out the door without explanation.

The idea being that by spring (he announced last autumn, remember), Omaha Steve would've been forgotten, and in real life, no one would've connected the primitive Omaha Steve with the real-life personality Steve Dawes, and the big guy could coast on to victory unseen and unsullied.

But did the big guy listen to franksolich, who had his best interests at heart?

N-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o.

I'm sure the professional Democrats of Sarpy County advised the big guy exactly the same thing; shed all connections with those things that make you come across as a fringe, an extremist, a Hater, an ultra, a kook, a moonbat.

Instead, he constantly hung around Skins's island, flaunting his primitivity.

I'm not aware that my fellow Nebraskan's blaming anyone yet, for his defeat, but probably if he is, he should be blaming his own self.


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Re: poll: how do you rate Operation Omaha Steve?
« Reply #33 on: May 16, 2012, 10:09:48 PM »
The election, or more accurately Steve's candidacy, was personal to me. My lifelong friend and Army buddy lived in Bellevue. He was a Christian conservative, with a wicked sense of humor. He died a year ago, and his widow and son still live there. Their lives would be affected by the presence of a *******ed lying Socialist piece of shit on their city council.

Operation Omaha Steve turned out as I expected, although I did hope the Libertarian candidate would beat Steve. That would have been the cherry on top of the sundae.

I believe www.electstevedawes was a factor in the election; more so Steve's ineptitude and sloth, and his horrid choices in platforms. Steve froze like a deer in the headlights when www.electstevedawes.com went live. He should have folded his tent, ate the damned mini-tacos, and gotten on with his life. Now he's stuck with three yard signs, an empty mini-taco box, a mountain of credit card debt, and bruises from Marta's rolling pin.

The people of Bellevue could see the flood-damaged park and marina outside the city limits, but Steve wanted to spend city money to buy that useless land. He never explained why annexing and buying the land would benefit the taxpayers, primarily because there was no benefit. He also hung his hat on the idea that spending $200,000 saved money, despite the fact that the city was not obliged to spend one red cent on the flood plain.

His grand idea to try to socialize the gas service was just bizarre. Steve's platform distilled down to "elect me, and I'll try to convince the State Legislature to amend a law just to benefit our city". Steve ignored, probably willfully, the fact that he would be the only Bolshevik on the Council and would be the lone vote for appropriating the gas service in the name of the proletariat; that the Bellevue City Council has no juice with the State Legislature; and that the conservative members of the Legislature would be philosophically opposed to a government grab of private business.

His personal appearance was embarrassing, and was beyond parody. I mean, the neckbeard and sweat, that weird "patriotic" polo shirt, the campaign photos of him in sweaty t-shirt and Harpo hair, and the Boy Scout uniform from hell. I give thanks to God every night that we never had to see him in the Peter Pan costume with the bulbous codpiece and tights.

Most of all, Steve forgot he was in Nebraska, and Nebraskans have no truck with sweaty, sneaky, lazy Socialist pieces of shit.
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Re: poll: how do you rate Operation Omaha Steve?
« Reply #34 on: May 16, 2012, 10:51:56 PM »

Now he's stuck with three yard signs, an empty mini-taco box, a mountain of credit card debt, and bruises from Marta's rolling pin.



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Re: poll: how do you rate Operation Omaha Steve?
« Reply #35 on: May 16, 2012, 11:54:58 PM »

:clap: :clap: :clap:

You know, I was also struck by that the big guy was determined to tell the voters what the issues were, rather than finding out what the voters themselves thought the issues were.

That's backwards.

The big guy thought the important issues were that land deal and natural gas service.

The voters of Bellevue obviously didn't give a shit about either one, having other issues which the big guy refused to address.

A good politician doesn't tell the voters what the issues are; a good politician inquires of the voters what the voters think is important, and goes from there.
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Re: poll: how do you rate Operation Omaha Steve?
« Reply #36 on: May 17, 2012, 04:37:55 AM »
I think that it worked out the way I expected.  What we had here was a sweaty, sneaky socialist trying to mask his views on decent and upright people, to gain control over them, and his friends enlightened the voters as to his true roots.  Said socialist might have been able to pull it off in, say, New York State (especially Albany or NYC), but not where the decent and hardworking people outnumber those with primitive tendencies.
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Re: poll: how do you rate Operation Omaha Steve?
« Reply #37 on: May 17, 2012, 04:50:43 AM »
I would like to hear from the misfits who donated their public dole funds to this travesty of a campaign.  Is accountability to how these funds were spent too much to ask? 



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Re: poll: how do you rate Operation Omaha Steve?
« Reply #38 on: May 17, 2012, 06:36:22 AM »
It turned out about the way I thought it would

But it was fun watching it unfold.
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Re: poll: how do you rate Operation Omaha Steve?
« Reply #39 on: May 17, 2012, 07:06:08 AM »
I think that in a small way it showed the value of vetting from both sides of the coin. From the candidate's side you need to make sure that you know your own history and what may be lurking in your past words and deeds. From the opposition side I think that it shows how past words and deeds may be nicely used to help the opponent make thier point around who would be a better selection.

In some ways it is very much truth in advertising.

At a small scale the anonymous people from www.electstevedawes.com actually performed the function that the MSM should perform on EVERY candidate. There was a piece in the WSJ yesterday written by one of the team that vetted Sarah Palin when she was chosen for the VP slot in 2008. The amount of information from and variety of questions to the candidate was amazing. The parties will/should do this with every candidate; why should we not have access to the same information.

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Re: poll: how do you rate Operation Omaha Steve?
« Reply #40 on: May 17, 2012, 07:32:25 AM »
I heard he is so sick over the defeat he hasn't eaten since.

































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Re: poll: how do you rate Operation Omaha Steve?
« Reply #41 on: May 17, 2012, 07:38:11 AM »
I heard he is so sick over the defeat he hasn't eaten since.

































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Re: poll: how do you rate Operation Omaha Steve?
« Reply #42 on: May 17, 2012, 07:43:30 AM »
In some ways it is very much truth in advertising.

One of the secondary--but still vitally important--purposes of the DUmpster is to "quality-check" the primitives on Skins's island; to perform various observations and tests to be sure the primitives are what they advertise themselves to be.

Much as the FDA (Food & Drug Administration) checks products to ensure they're as advertised, they do what they claim they do.

A form of third-party oversight which I'm sure the primitives favor; after all, the primitives don't want to dig their hands into a bag of rancid Cheetos or gulp down a mood-altering pharmaceutical that has the wrong chemical ingredients in it.

Over the years, P-J Comix's DUmmie FUnnies on freerepublic, the Best/Worst of DU at our old home, and the DUmpster here, have performed this vital public service, examining the primitives to be sure the primitives are telling the truth about themselves; that the primitives are as bright, as generous, as kind, as they allege themselves to be.

Quality control.

Alas, at least in my own memory--which is fallible--I can't recall a single instance where a product, a primitive, "passed," being what that primitive alleged himself to be.

Surely there's an honest primitive somewhere, but I suspect one has better odds of winning the Powerball lottery than finding that primitive.
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Re: poll: how do you rate Operation Omaha Steve?
« Reply #43 on: May 17, 2012, 10:22:03 AM »
I wonder if the folks at CU, picked up on fun that night?
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Milo Yiannopoulos "It has been obvious since 2016 that Trump carries an anointing of some kind. My American friends, are you so blind to reason, and deaf to Heaven? Can he do all this, and cannot get a crown? This man is your King. Coronate him, and watch every devil shriek, and every demon howl."

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Re: poll: how do you rate Operation Omaha Steve?
« Reply #46 on: May 17, 2012, 10:32:17 AM »
There's a Gina there  :panic:

I noticed that.

Actually, there's a lot of people who are members of both sites.

I myself, I try to stay out of the Best/Worst of DU forum there, so as not to be tempted to steal some of their nuggets, primitive campfires that aren't in the DUmpster here.

<<ethical.

But overall, I recommend that people join both sites, so as to get the maximum illumination and amusement possible.
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Re: poll: how do you rate Operation Omaha Steve?
« Reply #47 on: May 17, 2012, 02:57:23 PM »
It went about as expected -

Now - To wait & see if there is aftermath. Most POPs lose their standing after they taste political defeat, and then quietly fade into obscurity. The primitives don't like those who remind them that they are also losers.  

If that's the case, I'd like to change my vote to better than expected! Heh, heh!

I think that in a small way it showed the value of vetting from both sides of the coin. From the candidate's side you need to make sure that you know your own history and what may be lurking in your past words and deeds. From the opposition side I think that it shows how past words and deeds may be nicely used to help the opponent make thier point around who would be a better selection.

In some ways it is very much truth in advertising.

At a small scale the anonymous people from www.electstevedawes.com actually performed the function that the MSM should perform on EVERY candidate. There was a piece in the WSJ yesterday written by one of the team that vetted Sarah Palin when she was chosen for the VP slot in 2008. The amount of information from and variety of questions to the candidate was amazing. The parties will/should do this with every candidate; why should we not have access to the same information.

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Re: poll: how do you rate Operation Omaha Steve?
« Reply #48 on: May 17, 2012, 03:00:05 PM »
I've heard of those, but I've never seen one, and besides, I never got paddled in school.

However, I've always been mystified as to why holes in the board would make any sort of difference.

My father told me it was more a a "put the fear of God in ya" type of thing. When you're swinging the paddle down, it whistles before making contact so you know it's coming.

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Re: poll: how do you rate Operation Omaha Steve?
« Reply #49 on: May 17, 2012, 03:16:15 PM »
I got licks 2x in my high school history :p






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