Personally I think China's 1 Child Policy to be socially responsible policy

[Freeper]

FreakinDJ
 
Personally I think China's 1 Child Policy to be socially responsible policy

perhaps not the implementation or penalties associated with having more then 1 child but certainly the concept of social responsibility involved

I am worn out on seeing people bring 6 - 8 - even 10 children into the world with no means to support, educate, or even feed them.

Time after time a Crisis of epic proportion as starving masses of children are dying around the world because they live in a portion of the globe that can not sustain that many mouths to feed. Wars being fought as people fighting over diminishing resources ensues.

I can think of another 20 or 30 countries that could use such policies

flame away as you wish

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002647501

You know what else would be socially responsible? Getting rid of all the pot smoking hippies who spend all day demanding more and more freebies from the taxpayer.

baldguy
1. Forcing people to do the right thing is not the right thing to do.

It's just another form of slavery.

Gee sounds like a conservative talking about high taxes and a lot of government control.

FreakinDJ
4. Forcing Children to be born into deplorable conditions is not the right thing to do

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you have a choice - they don't

southernyankeebelle
7. I don't think anyone has a right to tell people how many children they should have. I only

have one because that is all I could afford. A family has a right to have 3 or 4 children I see nothing wrong with that. Now 19 or 20 kids that is another story.

You contradict yourself by saying that 19 or 20 is another story.

randome
12. 7 billion people on the planet.

All throwing their waste into the ocean and requiring huge amounts of energy and housing and entertainment.

I am not an alarmist but we have to implement some sort of policy worldwide or there will be mass starvation and millions of people will die because of it.

Yes, the planet has enough resources to support many more people but the waste and pollution we generate will become too much.

It's either implement a policy or stand back and watch people die.

Great idea instead of having the government of the USA take our freedoms let the UN do it. 

randome
47. Not everything involving women has to do with taking away their rights.

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A population control measure would, by definition, involve limiting women's choices because I don't see how you can enforce that from a man's perspective other than to say 'Don't'.

If it's a choice between the survival of our species and moderating population growth, I don't see that it's as simple a question as you pose.

Sure, you might say 'Freedom of choice no matter the cost' but I don't think I could support that.

On edit:
Actually, you could enforce that on a man. After the birth of one child, forced sterilization. Sorry, I should have seen that a mile away.

 

NYC_SKP
14. Agree. The idea that popping new people out in this world is some God-given right is ****ed up.

And that ****ed up idea is held by people across the political spectrum.

Sooner or later, though, people will see the light.

Too many ****ing people on this planet.

End of story.

Only a freeper or fundy would argue with that against all scientific reason.

If all the people bitching and moaning about too many ****ing people on the planet simply just took themselves out, that should solve the problem. 

So many disgusting posts all in one thread.

[Chris_]

Advocating for population reform seems to be a popular liberal stance.  Why don't more take the initiative to make the world a better place and remove themselves from it? 

[NHSparky]

I am worn out on seeing people bring 6 - 8 - even 10 children into the world with no means to support, educate, or even feed them.

Yet you support the policies which creates these broods.  Curious, ain't it?

[BEG]

Wonder how they would feel if they were the one who was "over the limit" and would never have been born.

I also wonder how their great social programs would be allowed to continue with out enough younger people to pay her their sorry asses.

[Doubleplusungood]

baldguy
1. Forcing people to do the right thing is not the right thing to do.

It's just another form of slavery.

Wouldn't that include forcing people to buy health insurance against their will?

[BlueStateSaint]

Advocating for population reform seems to be a popular liberal stance.  Why don't more take the initiative to make the world a better place and remove themselves from it? 

I wholeheartedly agree.  C'mon, DUmb****s, put your money where your mouths are!

[NHSparky]

I wholeheartedly agree.  C'mon, DUmb****s, put your money shotguns where your mouths are!

FIFY.  If someone is going to be this stupid as to advocate something like this, I really don't give a shit how callous I sound in my reaction to them.

[BlueStateSaint]

FIFY.  If someone is going to be this stupid as to advocate something like this, I really don't give a shit how callous I sound in my reaction to them.

Sparky, most of them--probably 95%+, or more--don't have weapons.  I wish they'd do that, too--but I'll settle for them injecting air into their veins.

[DumbAss Tanker]

NYC_SKP
14. Agree. The idea that popping new people out in this world is some God-given right is ****ed up.

Really?  More ****ed up than thinking marriage to smeone of the same biological gender is some kind of God-given right, despite the fact that the human race has managed to do rather well without it throughout all of recorded history?

[diesel driver]

Remember the DUmmie who said she decided NOT to have a child after reading a book when she was 12.

She could have offed herself, and make it a "twofer".   

[vesta111]

Sparky, most of them--probably 95%+, or more--don't have weapons.  I wish they'd do that, too--but I'll settle for them injecting air into their veins.

So we should all go today to request that all but the first born be removed from the earth.

As an only child I am safe, but what do I do with my 4 children, do I have a choice as to who of them lives or dies ??

Should I place the blood of lamb over my door, what do you do when an unexpected blessing show up be it second or third blessing.  

Wars decimate the population, disease takes out millions as does natural disasters.  Even with mordern medicine people die after a couple generations, who is to replace them to carry on human life on the planet ??

Enough people die each year from old age, disease, war, hunger, accidents and natural causes.  So unless they are replaced, and figure whole family's  and their DNA may disappear from earth, who and what is to survive.

Was it McCain that came back from war that gave a speech to the Officers Club that was so odd. He felt that any American that was in the service that got a vicectomy or allowed his wife to take birth controll was falling into the trap that we would not in the future be able to fight the Chinese with their millions of warriors.

Odd speech, at the time I put it down to his POW Days.    Today I can understand some of his ideas,   same as I understand the NK and their huge army that defends the poor or people in camps.    Even the slaves need to feel protected from out side forces, better to be a slaves to ones own people then to become slaves of strangers.  

India, the practice of offing the females by abortion has led to a new social problem, there are so few females that the males are having to look outside their country's for wives that may not  follow their beliefs, their children are raised in the faith of their mothers  One heck of a mess for the hard core traditions of the Indian faith.

Insane that family's with 7-8 kids that did not believe in abortion raised the kids for better or worse are now being put down as irresponsible, what, would they have been responsible to get 5 abortions, and miss the the one kid that was not born that may have changed for the better our lives ????-------

[AprilRazz]

Not rowing over to that campfire but I bet not one primitive brought up and inconvenient truth about China's policy. Did any of them mention the millions of baby girls that were born and then murdered because they were not boys? Not talking abortion but straight up murder after the child is born.

[Aristotelian]

Not rowing over to that campfire but I bet not one primitive brought up and inconvenient truth about China's policy. Did any of them mention the millions of baby girls that were born and then murdered because they were not boys? Not talking abortion but straight up murder after the child is born.

I'm not going there either, but I think we both know the answer to that question.

The population control advocates also side-step the extent to which their movement was founded on racism.

[Mr Mannn]

Liberals are the 21st century fascists. Scratch the thin veneer of propaganda purity and the monstrous evil is revealed for all to see. 

[txradioguy]

Advocating for population reform seems to be a popular liberal stance.  Why don't more take the initiative to make the world a better place and remove themselves from it? 

Because they think they are the "smart ones" that need to stick around and live in Ameritopia.

It's the clods like you and me that need to remove ourselves from the gene pool.

[obumazombie]

I am actually more than a little ambivalent about the China 1 child policy. I really don't like the idea of Chicoms's having a large population advantage. Whereas I know that's not a very Christian attitude.

[Evil_Conservative]

DUmmies, you are totally right!  Anyone who seeks government assistant should not be able to add even more children to their family if they can't support the one they have now.  Too often, we see welfare queens popping out 8-10 children by 7-10 different baby daddy's.

[vesta111]

DUmmies, you are totally right!  Anyone who seeks government assistant should not be able to add even more children to their family if they can't support the one they have now.  Too often, we see welfare queens popping out 8-10 children by 7-10 different baby daddy's.

I happen to agree with you, only the wealthy that produce perfect children should be allowed to breed.  

Anyone that has the nerve to produce children that they cannot support or have physical or mental problems needs to be sterilized.  

Damn females that keep churning out children from different fathers need to be rendered sterilized when they refuse to get an abortion.  

The liberals need to go after the very rich and very poor to insure only  the best of the best woman can bare children,  oh yes. blond and blue eyed,-----sound familiar, --------

Children born to welfare queens with 8-10 kids, be they antiabortion or not, the fathers need to be fixed, yes round up all men with 2 or more kids they do not support, and get them fixed.  

I wonder how many of the OWS can afford to have children,  how many have kids they do not support, remember a woman has usually one child at a time.   Men can in pregnant 100 woman a week if they are strong enough.

So I suggest that all men with more then 2 children be forced to be sterilized, few woman survive 25 pregnancy's but just one man can keep keep the children churning out into the hundreds.

Sterilise the woman and the men will find 30 more to in pregnant, it is the MEN that need to be rounded up not the woman who are having their baby's, welfare queens did not get pregnant on their own you know.

I suggest the Libs start a movement to make it a crime for any one man to in pregnant any woman, wife or girlfriend that cannot support the child.  Any man or boy that is on record of having 3 or more kids be forced to be sterilized.

Why would woman get abortions if they did not have sex with or without their permission  a potent male.  Put the problem on the male for a change.

Almost forgot, any Male that inpregnants a woman and the child has any mental or physical problems needs to be arrested and sterilized, never know the woman may remarry and the next husband may give her a child with no problems.

This is what we get when 3 woman get together and drink Rum and coke and give me suggestions on how to  respond to you Evil.

 

[WinOne4TheGipper]

What happened to "keep your laws off my body"?

Anyway, of course you find it okay, because you're really hunky-dory with government dictating to people what they must do.  Your ideology is incompatible with a country where the just powers of government are derived from the people, not vice versa.

[MrsSmith]

Where we run into a conflict is that everyone agrees taxpayers should not be on the hook for many multiples of children born to completely irresponsible parents...but the only real conservative way to enforce that is to then allow those children to suffer for their parents' faults.  Despite the DUmmies opinions, most of us can't stomach that!

It's not right to allow kids to starve, go without shelter, clothing and an education because their parents are bums.  It's not right to take those kids away and stick them all into orphanages or institutions, either.  So what do you do?  Beyond acknowledging that it would be far more affordable to care for those kids through charities instead of our vastly wasteful government, what can we actually do?

[DumbAss Tanker]

Not rowing over to that campfire but I bet not one primitive brought up and inconvenient truth about China's policy. Did any of them mention the millions of baby girls that were born and then murdered because they were not boys? Not talking abortion but straight up murder after the child is born.

They can't handle the truth.  However, there are a couple of interesting side effects of this trend to demand a boy if they only get one child:

1.  It drastically accelerates demographic collapse, unless they start importing brides by literall millions when the boys reach marriage age, and (For different reasons in different cultures) not too many other cultures really would want to thrust their daughters into a situation where the daughter was only going to be allowed one child.

2.  It gives the Chinese a large stock of men who can't marry and are essentially living only for themselves and/or the state, which could result in both a large temptation to treat them as expendable fodder for military adventures on the part of the government, and/or massive trouble for the government when a majority of young men in and out of the PLA realize there is no hope of them ever having a family and come to resent it.

[delilahmused]

Hey DUmmies...keep your laws off my body! My womb, my choice. You guys worried about the planet, abort yourselves.

Cindie

[wasp69]

This is what we get when 3 woman get together and drink Rum and coke and give me suggestions on how to  respond to you Evil.

You really need to stick to the dope, vesta, because sometimes you actually make sense instead of being an utter dumbass.  Tell your idiot "friends" I said to go **** themselves with a rusty iron stake.  And for you, well...

[commonguymd]

I happen to agree with you, only the wealthy that produce perfect children should be allowed to breed.  

Anyone that has the nerve to produce children that they cannot support or have physical or mental problems needs to be sterilized.  

Damn females that keep churning out children from different fathers need to be rendered sterilized when they refuse to get an abortion.  

The liberals need to go after the very rich and very poor to insure only  the best of the best woman can bare children,  oh yes. blond and blue eyed,-----sound familiar, --------

Children born to welfare queens with 8-10 kids, be they antiabortion or not, the fathers need to be fixed, yes round up all men with 2 or more kids they do not support, and get them fixed.  

I wonder how many of the OWS can afford to have children,  how many have kids they do not support, remember a woman has usually one child at a time.   Men can in pregnant 100 woman a week if they are strong enough.

So I suggest that all men with more then 2 children be forced to be sterilized, few woman survive 25 pregnancy's but just one man can keep keep the children churning out into the hundreds.

Sterilise the woman and the men will find 30 more to in pregnant, it is the MEN that need to be rounded up not the woman who are having their baby's, welfare queens did not get pregnant on their own you know.

I suggest the Libs start a movement to make it a crime for any one man to in pregnant any woman, wife or girlfriend that cannot support the child.  Any man or boy that is on record of having 3 or more kids be forced to be sterilized.

Why would woman get abortions if they did not have sex with or without their permission  a potent male.  Put the problem on the male for a change.

Almost forgot, any Male that inpregnants a woman and the child has any mental or physical problems needs to be arrested and sterilized, never know the woman may remarry and the next husband may give her a child with no problems.

This is what we get when 3 woman get together and drink Rum and coke and give me suggestions on how to  respond to you Evil.

 

I want a rum and coke.......................

[AprilRazz]

I want a rum and coke.......................

It's pushing mojito season now.