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Re: the big guy posts from the doghouse
« Reply #25 on: April 29, 2012, 07:30:02 PM »
Women know that though, not girls, girls want to be attractive to boys, they think being a cheerleader etc. will help her in that quest.

Not to a male between 14 and 114 it won't.
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« Reply #26 on: April 29, 2012, 07:43:24 PM »
Not to a male between 14 and 114 it won't.

That's why I wonder if another woman would feel the same way I do? we look at things a little differently, we look at things on an emotional level.
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Re: the big guy posts from the doghouse
« Reply #27 on: April 30, 2012, 08:53:53 AM »
That's why I wonder if another woman would feel the same way I do? we look at things a little differently, we look at things on an emotional level.

It is good to push anyone to reach their own potential.    One missing 2 fingers on one hand can learn to play the piano BUT they cannot play every song as written.  

Frank is so right, everyone has a handicap be it physical or mental, one can strive to overcome most problems but must admit a one legged man cannot kick some ones butt.

This is a tear jerky, a beautiful little girl that wants to be a cheer leader, or a Princess, or an Astronaut that does not have the qualifications to do so.    

Qualifications for anything depend on the individual.   My son wanted to fly Air Force jets for years, collected models, built them and went to College to do so.------Problem was his eyes, he found he needed glasses and was unacceptable for that position.   Broke his heart,  should the Air Force have made an exception for him, Heavens no.

Realistically the parents should never encouraged her to believe that even if she was good at something anyone would make an exception for her. Some schools I am sure would have been glad to have her but it would have been as a oddity, and out side the normal realm of the other girls jumping, rolling and gymnastics.

Some art schools will for a huge fee admit a blind student for sculpture classes, but no school will admit a blind student into a welding or truck driving class.

We have to go with the cards we are dealt physically in life, Yes we can overcome most of them but not if we are built like Don Knotts and decide to make a living wrestling bears in Russia.    


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Re: the big guy posts from the doghouse
« Reply #28 on: April 30, 2012, 09:07:35 AM »
Equality of opportunity does not mean forcing equality of outcomes.
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Re: the big guy posts from the doghouse
« Reply #29 on: April 30, 2012, 09:15:41 AM »
I hate to admit it,  but I agree with vesta.  :thatsright:

If anyone is at fault here, it's her parents for allowing her to believe she could ever become a member of the squad when she simply cannot do it physically. IMO, that's kind of cruel. They have set her up to fail by telling her she can do anything when, in reality, she simply can't because of her disability.

Look, it's admirable that she wanted to try, good for her. But for her to even think she had a snowball's chance in hell of getting on the squad is, well, stupid. Much like you can't be an Olympic sprinter if you don't have legs, you can't be a cheerleader without them, either.

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Re: the big guy posts from the doghouse
« Reply #30 on: April 30, 2012, 09:23:15 AM »
Because of these morons, it wouldn't surprise me to see a headline reading, "blinded airline pilot loses ATC and license. Plans to sue to keep flying with help from the ADA and justice department under Obama administration."

Life isn't fair, DUmbasses. The sooner she figures that out, the better for her. It'll force her to work to improve and develop the skills she currently has.
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Re: the big guy posts from the doghouse
« Reply #31 on: April 30, 2012, 09:38:31 AM »
Equality of opportunity does not mean forcing equality of outcomes.

The DUmp sure thinks so!  As a start, then forcing the DUmb****s to have a better outcome.
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« Reply #32 on: April 30, 2012, 11:15:21 AM »
OK, I can concede that the Parents bear a lot of responsibility in this by encouraging her to do something that she's not capable of doing.
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Re: the big guy posts from the doghouse
« Reply #33 on: April 30, 2012, 12:07:02 PM »
Because of these morons, it wouldn't surprise me to see a headline reading, "blinded airline pilot loses ATC and license. Plans to sue to keep flying with help from the ADA and justice department under Obama administration."
I guarantee if that were posted at the DUmp, someone would comment on how today's technology makes it possible, or that they could accommodate him by making him co-pilot, or by mounting a third pilot's seat in the center of the cockpit.

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Re: the big guy posts from the doghouse
« Reply #34 on: April 30, 2012, 12:30:38 PM »
Because of these morons, it wouldn't surprise me to see a headline reading, "blinded airline pilot loses ATC and license. Plans to sue to keep flying with help from the ADA and justice department under Obama administration."

Life isn't fair, DUmbasses. The sooner she figures that out, the better for her. It'll force her to work to improve and develop the skills she currently has.

Moonbat extraordinaire Kurt Vonnegut had a short story title "Harrison Bergeron" where he talked about what would happen if everyone was forced to be equal. Newscasters all had speech impediments. Ballet dancers all had to wear weights around their necks and masks to cover their faces.

The point is that when you force everyone to be equal, you put limitations and handicaps on everyone.

The answer is pretty simple. Find what you're good at, and run with it.
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Re: the big guy posts from the doghouse
« Reply #35 on: April 30, 2012, 12:56:58 PM »
That's why I wonder if another woman would feel the same way I do? we look at things a little differently, we look at things on an emotional level.

Trust me, all men are very well aware of that. 

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Re: the big guy posts from the doghouse
« Reply #36 on: April 30, 2012, 01:13:05 PM »
I guarantee if that were posted at the DUmp, someone would comment on how today's technology makes it possible, or that they could accommodate him by making him co-pilot, or by mounting a third pilot's seat in the center of the cockpit.

Was this not what Affirmative Action was all about.  The loudest anti affirmative action person was of all people an elderly black lady that was outraged that her people were being dumbed down with no reason to push themselves and succeed on their own.  

Kids that just barely passed college entrance exams were admitted over others with huge IQ's just because of the color of their skin.   Oh she would get rilled up over the idea that any minority could get by without working hard for grades.

The darn white asses were teaching the minority that they could get what they wanted not for what they were but who they were.  The whites  are setting us up to fail then blame the kids for screwing up.

Most interesting and shocking to me to look at the other side of the coin so to speak.   Quotas in the work place were another of her gripes.  A Black owned company had to hire a number of other races, so they need a couple of engineers, 5 black men apply with outstanding work resumes, only 2 whites applied and they  had bad work records, total losers, so because of the quotas the bum's had to be hired and could drive he company into the ground.  Same as the White owned company's that were forced to hire people for their race and not their knowledge.  

This lady was a pip,  no nonsense woman that saw things I did not see.   The first Conservative Black I met and believe me there are plenty of them out there.

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Re: the big guy posts from the doghouse
« Reply #37 on: April 30, 2012, 01:19:25 PM »
All I see in this article is an amazing young lady, defying all odds by doing things - and not allowing others to set boundaries for her.   She should be applauded.   I think her parents are just encouraging their daughter to be indpendent, and to work hard for what she wants.

All she wanted was to try out, and why shouldn't she be allowed to?  This is cheerleading for pete's sake - there is no safety issue here in trying out for the squad.   She didn't make it, and what kid wouldn't be disappointed.   

Much ado about nothing, but I will say I am glad it is in the press.   She should be an inspiration to other students and adults with significant disabilities to live the dream you set for yourself.   


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Re: the big guy posts from the doghouse
« Reply #38 on: April 30, 2012, 01:27:36 PM »
All I see in this article is an amazing young lady, defying all odds by doing things - and not allowing others to set boundaries for her.   She should be applauded.   I think her parents are just encouraging their daughter to be independent, and to work hard for what she wants.

All she wanted was to try out, and why shouldn't she be allowed to?  This is cheerleading for pete's sake - there is no safety issue here in trying out for the squad.   She didn't make it, and what kid wouldn't be disappointed.   

Much ado about nothing, but I will say I am glad it is in the press.   She should be an inspiration to other students and adults with significant disabilities to live the dream you set for yourself.

Well, of course it's good that she tried, and kudos to her for that.

Otherwise, how does one become aware of one's limits?

But one should always be acutely aware that able-bodied or not, sometimes one's going to bump up against a wall (the limit, the boundary).  I can't think of a single person I've known in my life who hasn't.
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Re: the big guy posts from the doghouse
« Reply #39 on: April 30, 2012, 02:38:39 PM »
All I see in this article is an amazing young lady, defying all odds by doing things - and not allowing others to set boundaries for her.   She should be applauded.   I think her parents are just encouraging their daughter to be indpendent, and to work hard for what she wants.

All she wanted was to try out, and why shouldn't she be allowed to?  This is cheerleading for pete's sake - there is no safety issue here in trying out for the squad.   She didn't make it, and what kid wouldn't be disappointed.   

Much ado about nothing, but I will say I am glad it is in the press.   She should be an inspiration to other students and adults with significant disabilities to live the dream you set for yourself.   



The fact that she tried out isn't the issue. She should get accolades for taking a chance on doing something that had a "slim to none" odds of success.

In DUmmydom, they would file a lawsuit forcing the squad to accept her into a slot, depriving a capable cheerleader of fulfilling her dreams.
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Re: the big guy posts from the doghouse
« Reply #40 on: April 30, 2012, 03:57:57 PM »
Out of curiosity, how would the Big Guy feel about the esteemed physically challenged girl to be guaranteed a spot on the girls' basketball/volleball squad? What's fair is fair.
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« Reply #41 on: April 30, 2012, 04:07:56 PM »
Out of curiosity, how would the Big Guy feel about the esteemed physically challenged girl to be guaranteed a spot on the girls' basketball/volleball squad? What's fair is fair.

You're asking that of a possible pedophile?

He'll say, at least this one can't run away.
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Re: the big guy posts from the doghouse
« Reply #42 on: April 30, 2012, 04:22:20 PM »
Hi-5 Vesta!! I am only 4 foot 7, I never ever ask my supervisor to make accomodations. He has to go with the majority of the department, which is 5 feet and over and that is okay with me. There are plenty of things I can do in Lawn and Garden, that is fullfilling and I feel accomplished at the end of the day..

Did I want to join the military?? Hell yes!@! But I can't expect the military to make accomodations for me. That is not fair to the majority of our military personel, I feel. So I do things where my lack of height is not a burden on the general public...
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