Did Muhammed Really Exist?

[JohnnyReb]

I found this revenue review of Robert Spencers latest book quite interesting. Lot of facts and stuff.

http://frontpagemag.com/2012/04/23/robert-spencer-asks-did-mohammad-exist/

Had to change a word....Sheeesh, don't tell me I'm not worried about the Oconomy.

[Kyle Ricky]

History shows that Muhammad did exist. History also shows that he was a terrorist. The thing that is bring the doubts is that no ones knows what he looked like. Then no one really knows what Jesus looked like either. But then Jesus was loving and Muhammad was a terrorist.

[thundley4]

Did Allah (Piss Be Upon Him) exist before Moohamdog?

[Kyle Ricky]

Did Allah (Piss Be Upon Him) exist before Moohamdog?

I'm not sure if you are being sarcastic or serious lol. But I will answer this. I don't believe allah did exist before Muhammad. I say that because I don't believe the Islam God (Allah) and Christian God (God) (who created everything, and was here before time began) are the same God.

[marv]

Did Allah (Piss Be Upon Him) exist before Moohamdog?

The name Allah came from al-Ilah, the moon-god deity of Muhammed's Quraysh tribe. It was one of the many in the Semetic pantheon. Many of the so-called sacred "ninety-nine names of Allah" were a consession to the many tribes who worshipped other deities in order to get them to give up their own deities, and follow Muhammed

[CG6468]

Did he live in all of blammo's 58 states?

[Kyle Ricky]

The name Allah came from al-Ilah, the moon-god deity of Muhammed's Quraysh tribe. It was one of the many in the Semetic pantheon. Many of the so-called sacred "ninety-nine names of Allah" were a consession to the many tribes who worshipped other deities in order to get them to give up their own deities, and follow Muhammed

This is a great explanation. ^5

[Wineslob]

History shows that Muhammad did exist. History also shows that he was a terrorist. The thing that is bring the doubts is that no ones knows what he looked like. Then no one really knows what Jesus looked like either. But then Jesus was loving and Muhammad was a terrorist.

Maybe not.


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122669909279629451.html

[Kyle Ricky]

Maybe not.


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122669909279629451.html

Wow, that is really interesting. Good find. I am going to do some more research on it.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Doesn't matter at this point.  It's like telling a Mormon there weren't really any gold plates.

[Ptarmigan]

The Iranian Identity Crisis: Islam V. Persian Identity
http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/PaoloBassi51003.htm

After the arrival of  Islam ,  Iran  faced the most critical test in its history. Would its ancient Zoroastrian culture survive or would Islam and arab culture replace the unique Iranian identity. Alternatively, could  Iran  somehow transform Islam into a palatable Iranian form? These questions have characterized  Iran  since the Islamic takeover. It is true, Islam has become the dominant cultural force, yet Iranian identity, rooted in its Zoroastrian past, has never quite conceded defeat. The tension remains to this day. For example "no ruz" or the Persian new year (based on a Zoroastrian practice) is condemned by the Islamic clerics as a pagan practice, yet is widely celebrated. In addition, the achievements of the ancient Achaemenian period (whose empire was conquered by Alexander the Great in the 4th Century B.C.) and its classical civilization, have never left the Persian collective psyche. The ruins of  Persepolis  are a constant reminder that there was great Iranian past a thousand years before Islam as even born. Not even the mullahs can deny evidence that is carved in rock.

Islam's relegation of the pre-islamic past of the non-arab peoples it conquered, to an era of "darkness" was one of the major themes of the Indian author, V.S. Naipaul's Nobel Prize winning books, "Among the Believers' and "Beyond Belief". Naipaul proposes that conquered peoples, such as the Iranians and Indonesians, had been separated by Islam from their complete and true historical past, and removed again by European colonialism and this disconnect has resulted in an inner anxiety and crisis of identity. Take for example Islamist movements in  Indonesia and Phillippines, in which young Asian Muslims imitate Arabic appearance and call for  Israel  's destruction, yet they have no ethnic, cultural or historic connection with arab Palestinians. Both Islamic and subsequent western colonialism, according to Naipaul, have robbed the "conquered peoples" from their true selves, such that there is an inner loss of identity and a yearning to belong to some cause.

There have been times when  Iran  has dared to remember its past. In 1926, Reza Khan was crowned the first Pahlavi King of  Iran and as part of his reforms he made it clear that he regarded Islam as a foreign imposed faith that should not determine  Iran  's identity. As part of his attack on Islam, Reza Khan connected his new  Iran  with the ancient Zoroastrian past. The Farsi language was purged of arabic words, architecture began to take inspiration from ancient Achaemenian styles and schoolbooks were re-written to enhance an Iranian identity. Cities were renamed with Persian names, parents were encouraged to give Persian, and not arabic, names to their children. In 1935  Persia itself was renamed  Iran  , as it was known in the days of Cyrus the Great. These reforms were of course reversed after the 1979 Islamic Revolution.

Iranian poet insults Arabs, derides Islam
http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/03/30/143610.html

Hamed al-Kanani, an expert on Iranian Affairs, said that anti-Arab sentiments have become part and parcel of Iran’s psyche since the establishment of the modern Iranian state.

 â€œThe word ‘Arab’ has become an antonym for ‘Persian’ or ‘Iranian’ and in the case of Ahwazis, they will not be accepted as Iranians unless they give up their Arab identity,” he said.

 Kanani pointed out that Badkoobei referred to Ahwazis as Khuzis, which means residents of the pre-dominantly Arab province of Khuzestan, whose name was changed from Arabstan by the Shah as part of a nation-wide Persianization plan that aimed to erase Arab identity in Iran.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

The name Allah came from al-Ilah, the moon-god deity of Muhammed's Quraysh tribe. It was one of the many in the Semetic pantheon. Many of the so-called sacred "ninety-nine names of Allah" were a consession to the many tribes who worshipped other deities in order to get them to give up their own deities, and follow Muhammed

Much of Christianity's pageantry is co-opted paganism meant to A) appeal to anti-semitic sentiments and B) cross-culturally assimilate pagan populations. For it's day it was good marketing. However, many Christians would be mortified if they understood the Babylonian fertility rites and Roman Bacchinalia upon which their most "sacred" observances are based.

However, unlike Muzzies, Christians don't run around blowing shit up.

[Eupher]

So THAT'S where that damn thing comes from! 

The Maypole dance derives from spring rituals glorifying the phallus.

http://www.bible-history.com/babylonia/BabyloniaFertility_Rites.htm