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Re: Just saw a rather depressing notice on the bulletin board at school.
« Reply #25 on: April 20, 2012, 01:59:22 PM »
The poor child has been battling cancer for years. I'm pretty sure they have health insurance (note, not care). I'll bet that they have exhausted the maximum benefits.

DUmmies, why not tackle the issue of the actual cost of medical care? Hell, my poor father had to get $7000 a month shots/pills (Revlimid) so he could live another 18 months. He was able to find a group (oh my, a CHAIRITY) that paid for it 100%.
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Re: Just saw a rather depressing notice on the bulletin board at school.
« Reply #26 on: April 20, 2012, 05:59:21 PM »
Quote from: Wineslob on April 20, 2012, 01:59:22 PM
The poor child has been battling cancer for years. I'm pretty sure they have health insurance (note, not care). I'll bet that they have exhausted the maximum benefits.

DUmmies, why not tackle the issue of the actual cost of medical care? Hell, my poor father had to get $7000 a month shots/pills (Revlimid) so he could live another 18 months. He was able to find a group (oh my, a CHAIRITY) that paid for it 100%.

NUTS, my daughter has managed to stay alive needing a transplant for her liver for 5 years.  We are getting close to loosing her ,now she is on O2, 24/ 7.   Finally she found through her Doctors a program in Boston that as a last ditch effort would at no cost to her, try to fix her if she agrees to become a Ginnie pig.   Yup, she has nothing to loose at this point and medical science has every thing to gain.

Naturally her husbands health insurance will not pay for experimental treatment so why not, if she dies perhaps science Will learn something from all this and save the lives of others in the future. Her life expediency is at 3-6 months at this time, if the experiments work she could have another 4-5 years of life or more.  If they fail, she will only loose 2-3 weeks of her very uncomfortable life.

It has taken me years to come to terms that my daughter was dieing,  if the situation were reversed, she would be the first  to encourage me to GO FOR IT.  

This is America and one has to keep looking for any kind of help they can get.   We have Charity's up the ying yang, blood drives, and the bone marrow donors, complete strangers willing to give up a kidney to help someone to live.

Few country's have the number of people by percentages that dig deep into their wallets to help not just our people but to send medical help to people over seas, to friends or enemy's.  We feed, cloth and at times give up our lives to help others, America is fueled with the Christian example.

God Blessed America and in return America has given blood, sweat, tears to help out the rest of the world.

I wonder if there are soup kitchens in Kenya, food stamps in Indonesia, housing for the aged in India.  Do the prisoners in Turkey have TV, 3 hots a day, air conditioning ???  Egypt is the place I wish that smart ass poster could be set down in with just his clothing and $100 in their pocket.

BTW this poster has to be a mole, there to cause the dump, and us, to react to their insane post that even a serial killer would be ashamed of.








  
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Re: Just saw a rather depressing notice on the bulletin board at school.
« Reply #27 on: April 20, 2012, 06:21:34 PM »
Quote from: Porfiry on April 20, 2012, 01:34:27 PM
Did her parents fail to provide health insurance for her?

If so, she still has my sympathy and I hope she does well.

Many health insurance policies only have partial payments.  For example, ours, we have to pay $2,000 out of pocket before insurance kicks in.  She may have a similar situation, and a fund raiser sounds like a kind thing to do.

But it is hardly an indictment of the U.S.

In most countries in this world she'd be far worse off - perhaps in all other countries, I don't know.  I'd rather come down with cancer here than any other country I know of.

Oh, it's an indictment alright. An indictment on heavy regulations, no tort reform or loser pay system, on predatory attorneys, and not allowing the Capitalist free market to work its magic to provide the consumer the best product at a reasonable rate. Read up on corrective eye surgery and how much it was as opposed to how much it is now. We need the government OUT of it, not more government red tape.
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Re: Just saw a rather depressing notice on the bulletin board at school.
« Reply #28 on: April 20, 2012, 06:25:33 PM »
Quote from: obumazombie on April 19, 2012, 09:45:17 PM
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Re: Just saw a rather depressing notice on the bulletin board at school.
« Reply #29 on: April 20, 2012, 07:49:06 PM »
Quote from: BattleHymn on April 20, 2012, 06:25:33 PM
I see what you did there.  H5.   :rofl:


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Re: Just saw a rather depressing notice on the bulletin board at school.
« Reply #30 on: April 20, 2012, 08:02:39 PM »
Quote from: vesta111 on April 20, 2012, 05:59:21 PM
NUTS, my daughter has managed to stay alive needing a transplant for her liver for 5 years.  We are getting close to loosing her ,now she is on O2, 24/ 7.   Finally she found through her Doctors a program in Boston that as a last ditch effort would at no cost to her, try to fix her if she agrees to become a Ginnie pig.   Yup, she has nothing to loose at this point and medical science has every thing to gain.

I'm so sorry, Vesta. I'll pray for her. Do you have a PayPal account set up for her? I'll donate as I'm sure many others will. Why have you never mentioned this?  :-(
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Re: Just saw a rather depressing notice on the bulletin board at school.
« Reply #31 on: April 20, 2012, 08:53:06 PM »
As usual they assume everything will be paid for. Check those socialist health care nations. They don't pay for procedures that have very little chance of success because it's NOT financially prudent. The line has to be drawn somewhere. I bet people in those countries being used to "someone else" paying for everything, don't have as many donation cans for seriously ill people. Sometimes donations are taken, not necessarily for treatment but to help them travel to far away medical facilities and/or to provide funds so the families can stay with them. Sometimes they are for experimental treatments not paid for by insurance (and no guarantee they'd be paid by the government either). Here in OR the Oregon Health Plan does not pay for any kind of advanced cancer treatment but they WILL pay for assisted suicide. Even if the doctor recommends chemo simply to make the patient more comfortable, OHP won't cover it. So basically the state will pay you to die but not to live.

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Re: Just saw a rather depressing notice on the bulletin board at school.
« Reply #32 on: April 20, 2012, 09:07:35 PM »
Dr 0bama would tell her she would be better off taking a pill and leaving the resources for healthy people.
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Re: Just saw a rather depressing notice on the bulletin board at school.
« Reply #33 on: April 21, 2012, 07:42:23 AM »
Quote from: bijou on April 20, 2012, 09:06:19 AM
Do dummies not have google on their internets? We have fundraisers for medical treatment all the time here. Dummies would do well to remember that health care is rationed either by price or time, so of course people who live in a country with government health care will want faster/better/otherwise unavailable treatment at times.   10 second on google found this: ...James's condition is deteriorating and his wife, four children and two grandchildren held the event last Saturday in a bid to raise 10,000 as they has found a clinic in California in the USA offering ground-breaking treatment.  The money is needed to pay for a 10-week course of treatment and flights and accommodation for James, his wife Liz and their youngest daughter. ...

No WAY!  Not possible!!  Free Healthcare for all guarantees that we all live forever!!!    :lalala:  :stoner: :lalala:  :stoner: :lalala:  :stoner:     [/DUmp]


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Re: Just saw a rather depressing notice on the bulletin board at school.
« Reply #34 on: April 21, 2012, 07:46:05 AM »
Quote from: vesta111 on April 20, 2012, 05:59:21 PM
NUTS, my daughter has managed to stay alive needing a transplant for her liver for 5 years.  We are getting close to loosing her ,now she is on O2, 24/ 7.   Finally she found through her Doctors a program in Boston that as a last ditch effort would at no cost to her, try to fix her if she agrees to become a Ginnie pig.   Yup, she has nothing to loose at this point and medical science has every thing to gain.

Naturally her husbands health insurance will not pay for experimental treatment so why not, if she dies perhaps science Will learn something from all this and save the lives of others in the future. Her life expediency is at 3-6 months at this time, if the experiments work she could have another 4-5 years of life or more.  If they fail, she will only loose 2-3 weeks of her very uncomfortable life.

It has taken me years to come to terms that my daughter was dieing,  if the situation were reversed, she would be the first  to encourage me to GO FOR IT.  


Set up a fund, vesta!  I also believe many will help!

Quote from: vesta111 on April 20, 2012, 05:59:21 PM
This is America and one has to keep looking for any kind of help they can get.   We have Charity's up the ying yang, blood drives, and the bone marrow donors, complete strangers willing to give up a kidney to help someone to live.

Few country's have the number of people by percentages that dig deep into their wallets to help not just our people but to send medical help to people over seas, to friends or enemy's.  We feed, cloth and at times give up our lives to help others, America is fueled with the Christian example.

God Blessed America and in return America has given blood, sweat, tears to help out the rest of the world.

I wonder if there are soup kitchens in Kenya, food stamps in Indonesia, housing for the aged in India.  Do the prisoners in Turkey have TV, 3 hots a day, air conditioning ???  Egypt is the place I wish that smart ass poster could be set down in with just his clothing and $100 in their pocket.
  

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Re: Just saw a rather depressing notice on the bulletin board at school.
« Reply #35 on: April 21, 2012, 07:54:46 AM »
Quote from: vesta111 on April 20, 2012, 05:59:21 PM
NUTS, my daughter has managed to stay alive needing a transplant for her liver for 5 years.  We are getting close to loosing her ,now she is on O2, 24/ 7.   Finally she found through her Doctors a program in Boston that as a last ditch effort would at no cost to her, try to fix her if she agrees to become a Ginnie pig.   Yup, she has nothing to loose at this point and medical science has every thing to gain.

Vesta,

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Re: Just saw a rather depressing notice on the bulletin board at school.
« Reply #36 on: April 21, 2012, 10:07:00 AM »
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Re: Just saw a rather depressing notice on the bulletin board at school.
« Reply #37 on: April 21, 2012, 11:31:01 AM »
Quote from: Rebel on April 20, 2012, 08:02:39 PM
I'm so sorry, Vesta. I'll pray for her. Do you have a PayPal account set up for her? I'll donate as I'm sure many others will. Why have you never mentioned this?  :-(

No way, Rebel, she has a better chance getting care as an indigent patient  then one that has money in the bank.

I have mentioned this years ago on the forum but never expected anyone to do more then Pray for her.

Strange as it seems the Ginni pigs get better care then the paying Patients.   Each one becomes a record and perhaps a page in the medical journals.  Paying patients are not tracked and the G. pigs are constantly under observation.  

We have had many conversations on this and we both agree that to go into experimental surgery is the way to go.

The Doctors will monitor her more then a paying patient, call in more experts to help if they find a problem and
think out side the box.    

If I could raise the money some how to pay main stream doctors to help her, she would get the care that is normal every day.      With her going into the experimental process,  instead of one or two doctors doing their job as they were taught 20 years ago, my daughter will have the benefit of hundreds of doctors watching her and her progress.

Thank you Rebel for your Post, we have to make decisions in life and live with them.  Some times when Charity is involved all one can do to pay back is to to get all friends and family down and donate to the blood bank.



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Re: Just saw a rather depressing notice on the bulletin board at school.
« Reply #38 on: April 21, 2012, 01:42:51 PM »
Be assured of my prayers, vesta.
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