The "I got screwed by the Republiscum's failure to renew the Making Work Pay tax

[Freeper]

roamer65
 
The "I got screwed by the Republiscum's failure to renew the Making Work Pay tax credit" thread.

Last edited Mon Apr 16, 2012, 09:17 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

Willard Romney only pays 14% taxes and we can't even get a lousy few hundred dollar tax credit.
It's galling to say the least.

Check in here if you got screwed as well.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002572259

What about the extra $40 on every paycheck that 0bama was bragging about?
Damn they are greedy bastards wanting tax cuts for themselves. 

[BEG]

Apparently, according to DUmmies, it doesn't pay to work period.

[Freeper]

Apparently, according to DUmmies, it doesn't pay to work period.

Can you blame them? When you work you have dozens of DUmpmomkeys demanding that they get a cut of your paycheck. 

[NHSparky]

Dear roamer,

What percentage of your income did you pay in federal tax?  Now I'm gonna take a wild ****ing guess here, and say that more like than no, you fall into the 49.5 percent.  You remember that number, don't you?

Well, if you don't, that's the percentage of Americans who have either zero or a NEGATIVE tax burden.  That means you get back MORE than what you pay in.  

As for me?  Well, as stated elsewhere, I, being single of marital status and limited in my deductions save my home, was in the 28 percent tax bracket for income, and paid (after my "refund") just over 22 percent of my total income in federal taxes.  So nicely put, for a "upper middle class" job where I busted my balls an average (average, mind you) of 55 hours a week, I put more into the system than what you likely earned all year.

And for my efforts, I get to hear you ****sticks bitch and whine with your ****ing worthless hands out about how you don't "get enough" instead of doing like some here and EARNING it.  I'd rather help those in true need than give one ****ing dime to someone like you who EXPECTS me to support you simply because it's not worth your effort to get off your dead ass and suck a little shit once in a while to get a better job with better pay, better benefits, better working conditions.

Trust me, scooter--you don't want to know how I got to where I am today, and I'm pretty ****ing sure you wouldn't want to follow in my footsteps, even if you did have the balls to do so, you emasculated little scrawny ****stick of wasted sperm and egg.

My sympathies (and my charity) go to those who cannot do for themselves, not to those who WILL NOT do for themselves.  You want $400?  Go stand on a streetcorner and suck some dick.  At least you'll have earned it that way.

And people wonder why I hate liberal crybaby sumbitches.

[Duke Nukum]

How do DUmmies report pot and Cheetos to the IRS?

[AllosaursRus]

I kinda like the idea of a flat tax, DUmbass! Then even you leaches would have to contribute something! Oh and the "rich" would still be payin' the lion's share! Stick that one up yer ass!

Dear roamer,

What percentage of your income did you pay in federal tax?  Now I'm gonna take a wild ****ing guess here, and say that more like than no, you fall into the 49.5 percent.  You remember that number, don't you?

Well, if you don't, that's the percentage of Americans who have either zero or a NEGATIVE tax burden.  That means you get back MORE than what you pay in. 

As for me?  Well, as stated elsewhere, I, being single of marital status and limited in my deductions save my home, was in the 28 percent tax bracket for income, and paid (after my "refund") just over 22 percent of my total income in federal taxes.  So nicely put, for a "upper middle class" job where I busted my balls an average (average, mind you) of 55 hours a week, I put more into the system than what you likely earned all year.

And for my efforts, I get to hear you ****sticks bitch and whine with your ****ing worthless hands out about how you don't "get enough" instead of doing like some here and EARNING it.  I'd rather help those in true need than give one ****ing dime to someone like you who EXPECTS me to support you simply because it's not worth your effort to get off your dead ass and suck a little shit once in a while to get a better job with better pay, better benefits, better working conditions.

Trust me, scooter--you don't want to know how I got to where I am today, and I'm pretty ****ing sure you wouldn't want to follow in my footsteps, even if you did have the balls to do so, you emasculated little scrawny ****stick of wasted sperm and egg.

My sympathies (and my charity) go to those who cannot do for themselves, not to those who WILL NOT do for themselves.  You want $400?  Go stand on a streetcorner and suck some dick.  At least you'll have earned it that way.

And people wonder why I hate liberal crybaby sumbitches.

Even after deductions, me being disabled and "Toots" bein' the breadwinner nowadays, we still pay 12 ****in' percent! And we make less than 50 thou, a lot less!

So **** you and your "Making Work Pay" BullShit!

[obumazombie]

How do DUmmies report pot and Cheetos to the IRS?

Assets.

[NHSparky]

Apparently, according to DUmmies, it doesn't pay to work period.

As you can see in my previous post, it's not a good idea to get me started.  I've heard so much from people, seen so much of it over the past few years, that I just want to puke.  I've actually run into folks who moved from NH to Maine for the "bennies", and then quit jobs or don't work OT, or work at shitty wage scale so their income is below the threshold for free shit.  Free shit for which I can't dare ask, but for which I pay because I have this little thing called pride in myself.

Thankfully you have instilled that positive work ethic in your children, and see it coming to fruition.  Hope is not lost, but some days I really wonder.

[obumazombie]

As you can see in my previous post, it's not a good idea to get me started.  I've heard so much from people, seen so much of it over the past few years, that I just want to puke.  I've actually run into folks who moved from NH to Maine for the "bennies", and then quit jobs or don't work OT, or work at shitty wage scale so their income is below the threshold for free shit.  Free shit for which I can't dare ask, but for which I pay because I have this little thing called pride in myself.

Thankfully you have instilled that positive work ethic in your children, and see it coming to fruition.  Hope is not lost, but some days I really wonder.

Don't let it beat you down. Your legacy continues  to build, theirs is but a wisp.

[Ballygrl]

Umm, how many Republicans are in the Senate? how many Democrats? it seems like the Democrats voted against this.

[Freeper]

I kinda like the idea of a flat tax, DUmbass! Then even you leaches would have to contribute something! Oh and the "rich" would still be payin' the lion's share! Stick that one up yer ass!

I am a big fan of a flat tax. Simplify the tax code make it reasonable so it is easier to just pay your taxes instead of trying to find ways to not pay them.

[AllosaursRus]

Don't let it beat you down. Your legacy continues  to build, theirs is but a wisp.

You hope!

[Freeper]

Umm, how many Republicans are in the Senate? how many Democrats? it seems like the Democrats voted against this.

They replaced it with that reduction in social security tax scheme. And it was 0bama's bright idea, in fact he had all those people tweet how that $40 was so important in order to extend it.

[obumazombie]

I am a big fan of a flat tax. Simplify the tax code make it reasonable so it is easier to just pay your taxes instead of trying to find ways to not pay them.

When you say "your" taxes, they aren't mine. They are what the IRS says are mine justly or unjustly. Mostly unjustly.

[seahorse513]

I am a big fan of a flat tax. Simplify the tax code make it reasonable so it is easier to just pay your taxes instead of trying to find ways to not pay them.

About flat tax, is it a percentage of what I make, or a flat dollar amount??

[NHSparky]

Don't let it beat you down. Your legacy continues  to build, theirs is but a wisp.

Nothing is so well calculated to produce a death-like torpor in the country as an extended system of taxation and a great national debt.

That was written over 200 years ago.  Even Plato spoke of the inequality in taxation.

And today, it has become this:

It is getting harder and harder to support the government in the style to which it has become accustomed.

[obumazombie]

About flat tax, is it a percentage of what I make, or a flat dollar amount??

Flat as in the same percentage for everyone, say somewhere between 10 to 14%.

[NHSparky]

Flat as in the same percentage for everyone, say somewhere between 10 to 14%.

I'll go one step further, and say that the TOTAL tax (Federal, SS/Medicare) should be 15-18 percent across the board (probably closer to 18).  This does two things--encourages investment at middle and upper-income levels, while taking away the argument of regressive taxation in SS/Medicare, assuming that you don't eliminate or privatize SS.  From there, end virtually all deductions.  No more mortgage interest deduction.  No more child deductions, no more education deductions, union due deductions, charitable contribution deductions.

It also encouages lower income folks to shun the SS system and encourage them to invest for their own retirement.

[Freeper]

About flat tax, is it a percentage of what I make, or a flat dollar amount??

A percentage and in my dream world it would be 10% across the board, if 10% is good enough for the church it should be adequate for the government. 

[seahorse513]

Thank you gentlemen for your information. I have one more question. Welfare recipients who don't pay into the system, how much if any, do they get in ss benefits. I get a yearly statement from ss, saying at age 62, your ss income will be a certain amount, at 65 a certain amount .

[NHSparky]

A percentage and in my dream world it would be 10% across the board, if 10% is good enough for the church it should be adequate for the government. 

Okay, I'll go a little farther and say 15 percent, but for EVERYTHING.  Death tax, corporate tax, capital gains tax, income (see above.)

And if the government can't live on that?  **** 'em.  About the only way I'd seriously consider above 15 percent is limiting SPENDING to that amount, and anything above that goes directly to pay off the debt (not interest on the debt, which should be paid off as a normal function of the budget.)

Once the debt is paid, any realized savings in debt interest payments should be returned to the people in the form of lower tax rates.

But the first thing that MUST be done is to get the government out of medical/social/educational funding NOW.  If the states can't do it, tough shit.  The feds shouldn't be stepping in to fund it either.  "Free" education shouldn't cost $100K in loan debt.  "Free" healthcare shouldn't result in 50 percent taxation rates like Canada and Britian.  Human resources spending in the federal budget now accounts for 2/3 of the federal budget--WHY?

[obumazombie]

Thank you gentlemen for your information. I have one more question. Welfare recipients who don't pay into the system, how much if any, do they get in ss benefits. I get a yearly statement from ss, saying at age 62, your ss income will be a certain amount, at 65 a certain amount .

Theoretically if they don't pay in and with no extenuating circumstances, they don't collect.

[diesel driver]

How do DUmmies report pot and Cheetos to the IRS?

Depends on whether he/she/it was selling or buying.

[Freeper]

Thank you gentlemen for your information. I have one more question. Welfare recipients who don't pay into the system, how much if any, do they get in ss benefits. I get a yearly statement from ss, saying at age 62, your ss income will be a certain amount, at 65 a certain amount .

I don't believe people who never worked a day in their life get SS. I believe you have to pay into it to collect from it.

Okay, I'll go a little farther and say 15 percent, but for EVERYTHING.  Death tax, corporate tax, capital gains tax, income (see above.)

And if the government can't live on that?  **** 'em.  About the only way I'd seriously consider above 15 percent is limiting SPENDING to that amount, and anything above that goes directly to pay off the debt (not interest on the debt, which should be paid off as a normal function of the budget.)

Once the debt is paid, any realized savings in debt interest payments should be returned to the people in the form of lower tax rates.

But the first thing that MUST be done is to get the government out of medical/social/educational funding NOW.  If the states can't do it, tough shit.  The feds shouldn't be stepping in to fund it either.  "Free" education shouldn't cost $100K in loan debt.  "Free" healthcare shouldn't result in 50 percent taxation rates like Canada and Britian.  Human resources spending in the federal budget now accounts for 2/3 of the federal budget--WHY?

I could live with 15%, but like I said in my dream world it would be 10.

[NHSparky]

I don't believe people who never worked a day in their life get SS. I believe you have to pay into it to collect from it.

I could live with 15%, but like I said in my dream world it would be 10.

The problem is, that in peacetime, the size of government in the US has typically been around 18 percent of GDP, but under Obumbles has balooned to nearly 25 percent of GDP--this is not by accident.  Obama and his sycophants in the Democrat party have always wanted to increase the scope and dependency on government by first balooning the size of government, then raising taxes as a way to pay for said expansion.

Now to take the size of government and cut it immediately to 10 percent would be nice, but not practical.  Hell, it's going to take a while just to get back to 18 percent, let alone 15.