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Offline CG6468

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Forest Service Death Sentence
« on: April 15, 2012, 12:04:22 AM »
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CAN'T A MAN GET A DRINK IN THIS TOWN?
Historic Western town fights feds over very existence

A new fight has developed in the American West over water, where strategies to use the liquid gold routinely are litigated and challenged. But in one case, according to a legal team, the result literally could kill the historic town of Tombstone, Ariz.

The Goldwater Institute today told WND it has filed a motion for a preliminary injunction that would allow town officials to go into the Huachuca Mountains to repair the collection system – pools, pipes and related equipment – that provide the town with much-needed water in the desert climate.

The federal government has said no.

Nick Dranias, head of the Joseph and Dorothy Donnelly Moller Center for Constitutional Government at the institute, said the issue is far larger than just a dispute over whether trucks and tractors can be used to repair city-owned property inside a federal land preserve.

“This is a case of egregious federal overreach,” an institute report on the conflict said. “If the Forest Service can effectively seize Tombstone’s 130-year-old water rights during a state of emergency – rights that the service recognized as valid in 1916 – no state or local government will be safe from the feds.”

In the arid West, most cities and towns, including Cheyenne, Wyo., and the Denver metropolitan area, draw at least some of their water from collection systems on federal lands. In other parts of the nation, municipalities have their wells and other critical infrastructure sometimes on federal properties.

“By denying Tombstone access to its water, the Forest Service is threatening to directly regulate Tombstone to death,” the institute said.

Overreach? Nah.
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Re: Forest Service Death Sentence
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2012, 09:29:23 AM »
The only thing I find funny in situations like this, is that the government agency (whether Forest Service, BLM, state lands, county, etc.) get a lot of public input when they make regs for specific areas.  Sometimes the regs that area people initially wanted come back to bite them in the hip pockets when their needs change.  In addition, the agency weighs the opinions and preferences of those who don't even live in the area, and either use the place recreationally or who may never even see the place, as highly as locals.  So, stupid regs get put in place that are a booger to change in response to real life in real time. 

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Re: Forest Service Death Sentence
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2012, 03:16:16 PM »
The primary source for municipal water for the vast majority of central Texas, an area in size larger than quite a few states , is on a federal Installation.
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Re: Forest Service Death Sentence
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2012, 07:01:47 AM »
Its all about control.  If they can control your health, they control you.  Control your water, you'll do what they want.  I agree with Longview,  its the law of unintended consequences.  Look at ANWR.  It was SUPPOSED to be used for oil drilling, or at least a small part of it.  But once the greenies got their mitts into it when it became a federal reserve, they wouldn't even let anyone think about drilling.
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Re: Forest Service Death Sentence
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2012, 07:15:20 AM »
Its all about control.  If they can control your health, they control you.  Control your water, you'll do what they want.  I agree with Longview,  its the law of unintended consequences.  Look at ANWR.  It was SUPPOSED to be used for oil drilling, or at least a small part of it.  But once the greenies got their mitts into it when it became a federal reserve, they wouldn't even let anyone think about drilling.

Last year the EPA or some other fed agency, started requiring that drilling rigs in the great frozen north truck all the mud/sludge from drilling be trucked 200 miles to an approved DUmp. Special large, off road, dump trucks were built with heated bodies to haul the mud/sludge to a place where it could freeze forever...why couldn't they just let it freeze forever where it was?

Anything to raise the price of energy....once it's up there where the government wants it....they will allow drilling anywhere, anytime, anyhow...BUT... they will maintain the higher prices by adding taxes, just like Europe. The government needs the extra money for the new communist utopia they're making.
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Re: Forest Service Death Sentence
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2012, 11:02:58 AM »
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“By denying Tombstone access to its water, the Forest Service is threatening to directly regulate Tombstone to death,” the institute said.

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Re: Forest Service Death Sentence
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2012, 08:55:21 AM »
If the Forest Service is successful in this crap, think of all the town, cities and people who would be directly affected if they did the same thing with the Ogallala Aquifer. The entire country would suffer if it lost the crops grown in that area.
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