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Offline franksolich

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Skins hopes to recover legal fees
« on: April 13, 2012, 06:45:09 PM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002556318

Oh my.

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DU files against Stephens Media to recover $774,683 in Righthaven legal fees

Source: Vegas Inc (Las Vegas Sun)

Attorneys say the owner of the Las Vegas Review-Journal should be required to pay $774,683 in legal fees for what critics call a failed ''shakedown'' copyright infringement lawsuit that threatened the free speech rights of a political website.

The attorneys represent the Democratic Underground, a website that defeated Righthaven LLC, the R-J’s copyright enforcement partner, in one of Righthaven’s copyright infringement lawsuits.

... "Righthaven and Stephens Media had an improper motivation in the pursuit of this lawsuit and their litigation campaign more generally. They sought to shake down website operators and bloggers for nuisance-value settlements with threats of seizure of their domain name and huge statutory damage awards, regardless of whether those defendants’ uses of the works at issue were actually infringing,'' said a filing Tuesday in federal court in Las Vegas seeking recovery of legal fees by Democratic Underground attorneys. ''As to deterrence, an award of fees is necessary to dissuade these parties and others from any similar scheme of shakedown lawsuits threatening staggering statutory damage awards and seizure of websites. Righthaven and Stephens Media pursued these claims such that numerous instances of legitimate fair use, like that here, would necessarily be dragged into their litigation machine."

... Last month, the lawsuit was named the U.S. Copyright Case of the Year by the international publication Managing Intellectual Property.

Read more: http://www.vegasinc.com/news/2012/apr/11/review-journal-owner-facing-774000-fee-demand-righ/

Question.

Never mind; I'll ask it later.

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3. GO for it!

Every last damn nickle. . .

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4. Wow- that shit will buy a LOT of Stars!

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21. Actually, it won't.

If we recover any money, all of it will go to paying attorneys.

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29. Quite appropriate, Skinner, and let's give a shout-out to those attorneys.

According to an earlier article in the Las Vegas Sun, DU was represented pro bono (without charge) by the Electronic Frontier Foundation, lawyers from Winston & Strawn (a big corporate-oriented law firm), and Las Vegas attorney Chad Bowers. These attorneys knew that they didn't have a certainty -- or even, in my guesstimation, a probability -- that they'd get paid.

I hope DU wins this motion, both to pay the attorneys and to stick it to the right-wing troglodytes who run the Las Vegas Review-Journal.

Okay, now my question.

If this case didn't cost Skins anything, how can he recover costs?
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Re: Skins hopes to recover legal fees
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2012, 06:47:47 PM »
Good question.  I assumed the work was pro bono as well.
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Re: Skins hopes to recover legal fees
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2012, 06:47:58 PM »
Something tells me Mrs. Skimmer's brother is a lawyer.
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Re: Skins hopes to recover legal fees
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2012, 06:48:40 PM »
I was about to bring this one over just for this:

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31. Do we get to split the proceeds amongst the members?

Boy, I hope so.


Dream on, loser.
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Re: Skins hopes to recover legal fees
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2012, 06:49:57 PM »
Quote from: Kimberly on April 13, 2012, 06:48:40 PM
I was just about to bring this one over just for this:
 

Dream on, loser.


Typical of the mindset of the DUmmies, you get a check they want a cut of it.  :-)
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Re: Skins hopes to recover legal fees
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2012, 06:53:30 PM »
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31. Do we get to split the proceeds amongst the members?

Boy, I hope so.
ha ha ha ha :rofl:

What do you think this is, profit sharing?  Get lost hoser.
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Re: Skins hopes to recover legal fees
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2012, 06:57:17 PM »
So Skin's island was represented at no charge by lawyers who hoped they would be reimbursed for their efforts by sueing later.  I hope they don't get a dime, but they'll probably settle and get something.

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Re: Skins hopes to recover legal fees
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2012, 06:58:49 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on April 13, 2012, 06:45:09 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002556318

Oh my.

Question.

Never mind; I'll ask it later.

Okay, now my question.

If this case didn't cost Skins anything, how can he recover costs?

probably a no win no fee situation. They prevailed so now some Attorneys want to be paid. Doubtful they'll get 3/4 of a million but they most likely will get something.
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Re: Skins hopes to recover legal fees
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2012, 07:34:27 PM »
If costs are awarded, it'll go to the attorneys, not to Skins. 
The 'Pro Bono' is between Skins and the attorneys, the judge can still award the attorneys the value of their work to slap down the loser for sticking with an unnecessary and stupid cause even though Skins isn't contractually obligated to pay them...it's done at times, and especially where there is a larger public issue being served beyond the squabble between just the two parties.

Actually, I wish the attorney's who represented Skins well in this, the RightHaven trolls were as big a pain in the ass to the Right as to the Left, and a drag on free discussion of current issues all around.   
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Re: Skins hopes to recover legal fees
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2012, 07:38:30 PM »
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29.

I hope DU wins this motion, both to pay the attorneys and to stick it to the right-wing troglodytes who run the Las Vegas Review-Journal.

Had nothing to do with right wing you DUmb ass. They were suing anyone they thought they could collect from.

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Re: Skins hopes to recover legal fees
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2012, 07:44:27 PM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on April 13, 2012, 07:34:27 PM
If costs are awarded, it'll go to the attorneys, not to Skins. 
Unless the lawyer is Skimmer's brother-in-law.

In that case, it'll be split with Skimmer.
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Re: Skins hopes to recover legal fees
« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2012, 07:45:50 PM »
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31. Do we get to split the proceeds amongst the members?

Boy, I hope so.

Payments will be scaled according to the DU members post count.  Get to spamming DUmmy trof.
« Last Edit: April 13, 2012, 07:52:22 PM by JakeStyle »
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Re: Skins hopes to recover legal fees
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2012, 07:46:32 PM »
Quote from: chris_ on April 13, 2012, 06:47:47 PM
Good question.  I assumed the work was pro bono as well.
I hate that term. It's redistributionist.
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Re: Skins hopes to recover legal fees
« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2012, 07:46:55 PM »
Quote from: obumazombie on April 13, 2012, 07:46:32 PM
I hate that term. It's redistributionist.
Why do you hate Sonny?
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Re: Skins hopes to recover legal fees
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2012, 12:09:15 AM »
If you can't win with facts....sue.
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Re: Skins hopes to recover legal fees
« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2012, 12:46:16 AM »
Blood, turnip, SKins.
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Re: Re: Re: Skins hopes to recover legal fees
« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2012, 12:51:27 AM »
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Re: Skins hopes to recover legal fees
« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2012, 05:45:38 AM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on April 13, 2012, 07:34:27 PM
If costs are awarded, it'll go to the attorneys, not to Skins. 
The 'Pro Bono' is between Skins and the attorneys, the judge can still award the attorneys the value of their work to slap down the loser for sticking with an unnecessary and stupid cause even though Skins isn't contractually obligated to pay them...it's done at times, and especially where there is a larger public issue being served beyond the squabble between just the two parties.

Actually, I wish the attorney's who represented Skins well in this, the RightHaven trolls were as big a pain in the ass to the Right as to the Left, and a drag on free discussion of current issues all around.   

Definitely agree with you, DAT.
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Re: Skins hopes to recover legal fees
« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2012, 08:02:16 AM »
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31. Do we get to split the proceeds amongst the members?

Boy, I hope so.

Skimmer, in his benevolence, will give every member a star for a year.

150,000* members X 45.00 = 6.750,000.

Skimmer will make up the difference out of his pocket.


* 5000 is closer to the number of actual members
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Re: Skins hopes to recover legal fees
« Reply #19 on: April 14, 2012, 09:25:03 AM »
Quote from: chris_ on April 13, 2012, 07:46:55 PM
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Re: Skins hopes to recover legal fees
« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2012, 10:03:44 AM »
Quote from: Skul on April 14, 2012, 12:09:15 AM
If you can't win with facts....sue.

Read the case,it's interesting. As much as I hate lawsuits I do think this one is justifiable, suing for attorneys fees that is
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