Skins avoids taking sides on Fitzmas

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1223990#1224501

Oh my.

Goblinmonger  (1000+ posts) Thu May-18-06 09:58 AM
Original message

Theory: Leopold was wrong. Dead wrong. And then he backpedaled.
   
With Will Pitt holding his handlebars for him.

The fact that there are so many apologists out there on DU is frightening. Why are people so afraid to say that there is a serious problem with journalistic integrity here? Why are so many people taking the dittohead approach and just blindly following and pledging unwaivering allegiance? How does that make you any different from the Freepers that watch Faux News?

FLDem5  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu May-18-06 09:59 AM
Response to Original message

1. Oh, enough already

marmar  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu May-18-06 10:00 AM
Response to Original message

2. Did he backpedal?   

I thought he was sticking by the story.

Goblinmonger  (1000+ posts) Thu May-18-06 10:06 AM
Response to Reply #2

15. 24 BUSINESS hours
   
that is backpedaling after the story is proven incorrect.

Skinner  ADMIN Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu May-18-06 10:00 AM
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3. I've avoided publicly taking sides on this.   

So please don't read anything into my question.

When did Leopold backpedal? I missed that.

Goblinmonger  (1000+ posts) Thu May-18-06 10:05 AM
Response to Reply #3

13. 24 BUSINESS hours
   
which is just legally silly. There is no difference between "24 hours" and "24 business hours" in the law, but when it didn't happen in 24 hours, they tried to make it 72 hours. I consider that backpedaling. Perhaps that may not be the best term for all.

Skinner  ADMIN Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu May-18-06 10:10 AM
Response to Reply #13

23. Not defending Leopold here.   

But IMHO, the central claim of Leopold's story was the fact that Rove was already indicted, and he has not backpedalled on that. If he's fudged on the 24-hours thing, it does make the credibility of the entire story suspect. But ultimately Leopold will be judged on the central claim -- whether Rove was indicted last Friday.

This is a good sized bonfire; the primitives discuss the meaning of "24 business hours" like a bunch of mother hens pecking at grain.

And then:

Skinner  ADMIN Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu May-18-06 10:02 AM
Response to Reply #4

9. With all due respect...   

...the controversy here is not whether Rove will be indicted. Jason Leopold will not be vindicated simply if Rove is indicted.

Jason Leopold will only be vindicated if Rove was *already* indicted. That is the bold claim that he made.

This is another one of those threads well worth reading in its entirety on Skins's island.

Interestingly, pigs and pig manure gets mentioned.

Really.

[BlueStateSaint]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1223990#1224501

Oh my.

Goblinmonger  (1000+ posts) Thu May-18-06 09:58 AM
Original message

Theory: Leopold was wrong. Dead wrong. And then he backpedaled.
   
With Will Pitt holding his handlebars for him.

The fact that there are so many apologists out there on DU is frightening. Why are people so afraid to say that there is a serious problem with journalistic integrity here? Why are so many people taking the dittohead approach and just blindly following and pledging unwaivering allegiance? How does that make you any different from the Freepers that watch Faux News?

FLDem5  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu May-18-06 09:59 AM
Response to Original message

1. Oh, enough already

marmar  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu May-18-06 10:00 AM
Response to Original message

2. Did he backpedal?   

I thought he was sticking by the story.

Goblinmonger  (1000+ posts) Thu May-18-06 10:06 AM
Response to Reply #2

15. 24 BUSINESS hours
   
that is backpedaling after the story is proven incorrect.

Skinner  ADMIN Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu May-18-06 10:00 AM
Response to Original message

3. I've avoided publicly taking sides on this.   

So please don't read anything into my question.

When did Leopold backpedal? I missed that.

Goblinmonger  (1000+ posts) Thu May-18-06 10:05 AM
Response to Reply #3

13. 24 BUSINESS hours
   
which is just legally silly. There is no difference between "24 hours" and "24 business hours" in the law, but when it didn't happen in 24 hours, they tried to make it 72 hours. I consider that backpedaling. Perhaps that may not be the best term for all.

Skinner  ADMIN Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu May-18-06 10:10 AM
Response to Reply #13

23. Not defending Leopold here.   

But IMHO, the central claim of Leopold's story was the fact that Rove was already indicted, and he has not backpedalled on that. If he's fudged on the 24-hours thing, it does make the credibility of the entire story suspect. But ultimately Leopold will be judged on the central claim -- whether Rove was indicted last Friday.

This is a good sized bonfire; the primitives discuss the meaning of "24 business hours" like a bunch of mother hens pecking at grain.

And then:

Skinner  ADMIN Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu May-18-06 10:02 AM
Response to Reply #4

9. With all due respect...   

...the controversy here is not whether Rove will be indicted. Jason Leopold will not be vindicated simply if Rove is indicted.

Jason Leopold will only be vindicated if Rove was *already* indicted. That is the bold claim that he made.

This is another one of those threads well worth reading in its entirety on Skins's island.

Interestingly, pigs and pig manure gets mentioned.

Really.

Ahhh . . . the heady days of Fitzmas . . .