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California High Court Rules in Lunch Break Labor Case
« on: April 12, 2012, 02:04:16 PM »
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The California Supreme Court said Thursday that employers are under no obligation to ensure that workers take legally mandated lunch and rest breaks.

The ruling came after workers' attorneys argued that abuses are routine and widespread when companies aren't required to issue direct orders to take breaks.

But the high court sided with business when it ruled that requiring companies to order breaks is unmanageable and that those decisions should be left to workers.

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/politics/California-High-Court-Rules-in-Lunch-Break-Labor-Case-147188025.html

Source: California High Court Rules in Lunch Break Labor Case | NBC San Diego

GAWD!  Your employer HAS to tell you to go take a break/lunch?   :thatsright:






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Re: California High Court Rules in Lunch Break Labor Case
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2012, 07:46:50 AM »
GAWD!  Your employer HAS to tell you to go take a break/lunch?   :thatsright:

YUP Gina, in the hands on workers everyone waits until the whistle blows to take a break.   One can not just decide to walk off the job when they want a break.

Most States have to give workers a 15 minute break every 4 hours.   30 minute break for lunch is not paid for. A 8 1/2 hour in location.

Worked at a plant that had just 7 1/2 hour work days, that means in that time one got just that one 15 minute break.
Union job, and the 3rd. shift was a bitch.   Start work at 11:30 pm-----3:30 AM 15 minute break and headed home at around 6:00 AM headed out the door.---Mind you the jobs even with a Union did not have any kind of stools to sit on so it was stand up jobs on bare concrete and come to find out most of the workers were on work realise from the Jails.--Worse job I ever had, water on the floors with electrical wires on top, no one would tell me who my Union Rep. was and the only job I ever quit after less then a month.

No wonder I despise Unions for the workers that toil in today's world.    In order to work I had to join 2 unions that had to be in cahoots with the company's as conditions were awful.

I worked at perhaps 3 company's of the nonunion sort and received better working conditions, better management and a sense of loyalty to the Company's.   I came into work to help keep the Company alive and vibrant, not to get but a pay check for just showing up with any protection of my job, it was all up to me.

When one gets out into the world of Mule work and finds satisfaction in being able to handle it and know ones is valuable not for anything but their work, no connections to anyone, no Union and a fire at will from the Company, one learns to respect what ever ability's they have, take pride in their jobs be it sweeping floors to 100 pound woman lifting 50 pound boxes.   

This is the reason that the Mules often make more money then then the trained office staff, OVERTIME and a damn I can do this.-------No Union back up, no laws that say a slacker has to be paid the same as a hard worker.

Have to get out there and get your hands dirty, work your ass off, and 22 years from now have the satisfaction that you gave your all, forged ahead with no back up, you did it all by your self. 

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Re: California High Court Rules in Lunch Break Labor Case
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2012, 08:10:36 AM »
GAWD!  Your employer HAS to tell you to go take a break/lunch?   :thatsright:

Actually, the decision is that the employer can't stop the employee from taking their meals/breaks as mandated by law, but also that they are not required to force them off the floor. The employee can take one or not as they desire.

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Re: California High Court Rules in Lunch Break Labor Case
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2012, 08:50:40 AM »
Yes, because the state of California knows what's best for you, dammit!

Kinda like about 10 years ago when Gray Davis signed into law that anything over 8 hours was OT versus 40 hours in a week, meaning any chance of me ever working 4-10's in that state while paid hourly pretty much went to hell.

Here, I can do a work-through lunch if workload requires it, and I have the choice of either 1/2 hour of OT or leaving 1/2 hour early.  Amazing what can happen when workers and management aren't at each other's throats.
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Re: California High Court Rules in Lunch Break Labor Case
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2012, 08:53:14 AM »
Yes, because the state of California knows what's best for you, dammit!

Kinda like about 10 years ago when Gray Davis signed into law that anything over 8 hours was OT versus 40 hours in a week, meaning any chance of me ever working 4-10's in that state while paid hourly pretty much went to hell.

Here, I can do a work-through lunch if workload requires it, and I have the choice of either 1/2 hour of OT or leaving 1/2 hour early.  Amazing what can happen when workers and management aren't at each other's throats.

We have that rule and they take full advantage of it and call in sick on Friday.






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Re: California High Court Rules in Lunch Break Labor Case
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2012, 08:54:36 AM »
We have that rule and they take full advantage of it and call in sick on Friday.

The same management mentality that says there's something wrong because 40 percent of sick days are taken on Monday or Friday.

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Re: California High Court Rules in Lunch Break Labor Case
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2012, 10:38:28 AM »
The same management mentality that says there's something wrong because 40 percent of sick days are taken on Monday or Friday.



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Re: California High Court Rules in Lunch Break Labor Case
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2012, 12:31:11 PM »
The same management mentality that says there's something wrong because 40 percent of sick days are taken on Monday or Friday.



Well, of course. Why would I want to get sick on a Wednesday?  :whistling:
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Re: California High Court Rules in Lunch Break Labor Case
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2012, 12:52:26 PM »
Well, of course. Why would I want to get sick on a Wednesday?  :whistling:

Don't laugh--I actually had my boss a couple of years ago pointing out how little I was sick on midweek days versus Monday or Friday.  I just kinda looked at him like a dog that just heard a funny sound.
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Re: California High Court Rules in Lunch Break Labor Case
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2012, 01:00:36 PM »
Don't laugh--I actually had my boss a couple of years ago pointing out how little I was sick on midweek days versus Monday or Friday.  I just kinda looked at him like a dog that just heard a funny sound.

We don't have sick days, just PTO. I get a little over 6 hours per 2 week pay period, or 20 days.
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Re: California High Court Rules in Lunch Break Labor Case
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2012, 01:01:40 PM »
We don't have sick days, just PTO. I get a little over 6 hours per 2 week pay period, or 20 days.

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Re: California High Court Rules in Lunch Break Labor Case
« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2012, 01:05:45 PM »
I get off on anything having to do with MLK, death or birthday
I just don't seem to get that excited, well, birthdays maybe.
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Re: California High Court Rules in Lunch Break Labor Case
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2012, 01:06:24 PM »
I get off on anything having to do with MLK, death or birthday

 :lol: :lol: :lol: "heh heh heh heh heh.  Hey Butthead; she said, "get off". heh heh heh heh heh."  :hyper: :hyper: :hyper:

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Re: California High Court Rules in Lunch Break Labor Case
« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2012, 01:17:28 PM »
I get off on anything having to do with MLK, death or birthday
That doesn't sound right. :p
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Re: California High Court Rules in Lunch Break Labor Case
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2012, 01:57:22 PM »
That doesn't sound right. :p

 :naughty:  it doesn't does it?  oh well, I do get off though  :naughty:






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Re: California High Court Rules in Lunch Break Labor Case
« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2012, 04:32:04 PM »
:naughty:  it doesn't does it?  oh well, I do get off though  :naughty:

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