Do you avoid Repug relatives?

[Carl]

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La Coliniere  (526 posts)        Sun May-11-08 04:00 PM
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Do you avoid Repug relatives?
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I just don't feel guilty anymore about making up excuses to avoid having to attend family functions that occur at Republican relatives homes. I cannot break bread with these people any longer. Engaging in small talk to avoid any confrontation regarding politics at these events has become something I dread. The Republican outlook on life with its self centered ideology of wanting to live in a "me" society is entirely foreign to me. Call me immature. Call me ridiculous. I blame these people for being part of the mindset which has seriously put my enjoyment of life on hold until our national nightmare finally comes to an end. No more debates. No more heated arguments. I want them out of my life.
Anyone here feel the same? I know its tragic, but I just can't be near these folks if I can choose that option.

In case that doesn`t fit the definition of pathetic.....

Libby2  (1000+ posts)         Sun May-11-08 04:06 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. Nor do I. Aren't we lucky?
   But if I did have them, I would avoid them.

barbtries  (1000+ posts)         Sun May-11-08 04:10 PM
Response to Original message
4. i moved to an eastern state   
   and my family remains on the west coast. i have avoided talking politics with my older brother and my sister for a few years now. given that bush's popularity is so low and the democrats are making such huge gains in the electorate, i am curious to know if either has come around. but i don't ask. i suppose at some point one or both of them will reveal their beliefs and i'll know whether we can talk about it. other friends with die hard republican friends and/or relatives have told me stories of their relatives having done a 180 because bush has done such a spectacularly poor job as president.

ps. i didn't move to get away from my loved ones, and they are still my loved ones. i patiently wait for them to pull their heads out of their asses, and in the meantime we talk about the new baby, the weather, etc - their health, my new job. i do feel a slight loss in not feeling free to express my feelings but in all honesty i have politics on my mind about 90% of the time any more. that may not be healthy.

No shit Sherlock?

depakid  (1000+ posts)        Sun May-11-08 04:22 PM
Response to Reply #5
8. Bullshit
   Far right or fundie family members are often downright unpleasant- or have character issues (actually, ANYONE who's still a Republican has suspect character in this day and age).

As the old saying goes- you can't choose your family -but you CAN choose to avoid them. And sometimes that's the best choice.

I would say your bigoted post would perhaps be an indication of "character issues".

Juche (654 posts)         Sun May-11-08 04:37 PM
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10. I avoid politics with them
   Edited on Sun May-11-08 04:45 PM by Juche
At least I try to. It is damn frustrating how arrogantly misinformed they are on ****ing everything (taxes, economics, policy, foreign policy, what the candidates are and stand for). Ugh. I'd love to have an informed, rational republican who I can debate with in my family. I wouldn't want everyone I know to have the same opinions I do as I'd never learn anything that way, but I'd like people with differing opinions to not say things that are factually incorrect 80-90% of the time. I've looked and cannot find any informed republicans to debate with. its probably in part because all the true conservatives have left the republican party by now and only the irrational dittoheads and the people who aren't paying attention are left.

I don't think you can subscribe to 'republican' values like small government, low taxes for the middle class, the constitution, individual freedom, a competent foreign policy, etc. and still vote for the current GOP unless you are either irrational, not paying attention or misinformed. When I think of rational republicans (who I still disagree with on a variety of issues mind you) I think of Ron Paul or Cenk Uygur. But they aren't republicans anymore. Paul is a libertarian more or less, Uygur is a democrat.

**** it. I just avoid the issue

In other words anything that is a difference of opinion to yours you dismiss as incorrect.
Who is the one now that doesn`t want to hear other opinions DUmbass?

hwmnbn (1000+ posts)         Sun May-11-08 05:02 PM
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14. Yep, I avoid those holiday family functions like the plague..
   Only children's birthday parties are the exception. However, we never discuss politics and the small talk gets used up pretty quick.

I don't mind the separation anymore.

You are an insane,pathetic person.

angstlessk  (1000+ posts)        Sun May-11-08 06:23 PM
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20. I avoid my son because he chose a different path...and I would just be
   a problem. I could not accept his way, so I had to leave him to raise his family as he saw fit. He has sent his children to Christian schools and one of the last times I left his house at the doorway, I do not recall the conversation only that I remarked "nothing wrong with being gay" the children both gasped as if I said I was glad Jesus died or something as outrageous. So I have just slipped out of their lives so they can live it as they deem fit.
   

You are beyond insane and pathetic.

[franksolich]

I dunno, Carl.

One wonders what the primitives add to such family events, other than their barbarity.

It seems to me having a primitive at a family event would be like having an ill-tempered stinking wino there.

[Chris_]

The Republican outlook on life with its self centered ideology of wanting to live in a "me" society is entirely foreign to me. Call me immature. Call me ridiculous.

The socialist outlook on life with its bizarre ideology of wanting to live in an authoritarian society under a tyrannical government is entirely foreign to me. But then again I'm kind of big on the whole freedom thing.

[Willow]

I betcha the Repub relatives are hooting and a hollern that the assholes are staying away! 

[dutch508]

The Republican outlook on life with its self centered ideology of wanting to live in a "me" society is entirely foreign to me. Call me immature. Call me ridiculous.

The socialist outlook on life with its bizarre ideology of wanting to live in an authoritarian society under a tyrannical government is entirely foreign to me. But then again I'm kind of big on the whole freedom thing.

BUT...they don't really want that. If they lived in such a society they'd all be rounded up and shot in the first twenty months.

They just want to desperately believe in anything, anything other than what we currently have, and dream that will make them all happy.

The only thing that can make you happy, is your want to be happy.

[mamacags]

Dearest La Coliniere,
     
     As a repug relative I would like to thank you from the bottom of my heart for your effort at making all family gatherings fun again.  Honestly, the spittle and pulled out hair that you left on the turkey last Thanksgiving almost gave grandma another heart attack.  In fact I will pay you to never come around again!  No, you don't have to report it to the welfare office!
                                                       Hugs and kisses,
                                                       Cousin Melinda

[rich_t]

I betcha the Repub relatives are hooting and a hollern that the assholes are staying away! 

Could be.   

[JohnnyReb]

Dearest La Coliniere,
     
     As a repug relative I would like to thank you from the bottom of my heart for your effort at making all family gatherings fun again.  Honestly, the spittle and pulled out hair that you left on the turkey last Thanksgiving almost gave grandma another heart attack.  In fact I will pay you to never come around again!  No, you don't have to report it to the welfare office!
                                                       Hugs and kisses,
                                                       Cousin Melinda

P.S. Everyone asks that you please return their pots, pans and other containers that you and yours carried off all the leftovers in from our last gathering. ....or have you sold them for scrap metal?

[delilahmused]

angstlessk  (1000+ posts)        Sun May-11-08 06:23 PM
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20. I avoid my son because he chose a different path...and I would just be
   a problem. I could not accept his way, so I had to leave him to raise his family as he saw fit. He has sent his children to Christian schools and one of the last times I left his house at the doorway, I do not recall the conversation only that I remarked "nothing wrong with being gay" the children both gasped as if I said I was glad Jesus died or something as outrageous. So I have just slipped out of their lives so they can live it as they deem fit.

This is just incredibly selfish and self-centered. To avoid your OWN child and grandchildren because of a different political philosophy? How hard can it be to attend family gatherings and NOT talk about politics. I have 2 sons...one is pretty much a moonbat (we're hoping he'll grow out of it), married to a wonderful (not as moonbatty) girl. They have a 4 year old daughter and a 2 year old son. (As an aside...I taught them abstinence and for all his liberal views lived up to my and his father's expectations.)

I wish they would attend church. I wish they would share God's love with their children but I'm certainly NOT going to alienate them...I love them tremendously and find much to admire and sympathize with as they work to carve a life for themselves. Besides, by having a great relationship with them, I  can take those precious babies to church with me when they come visit and share my values with them. There's no generation gap between grandparents and grandchildren. (Oh, btw...mothers...the "mommy curse" works...my son's boy is JUST LIKE HIM...ONLY WORSE...it restores my soul...lol).

My other son, my Marine, is a total straight arrow. I tease him that he's my reward for raising his older brother. He's more conservative and a more devoted Christian than my husband and I. He's my hero! How many 23 year olds would still call and say prayers with their mother before bed whenever they have the chance? My youngest does. I love them both with all my heart. Each has his gifts. Each has his faults. They're complicated, beautiful human beings. We have a lifetime of memories and shared history. Severing those ties because of "political differences" is disgusting. Politics is superficial and impersonal. Sure, it's important, like paying your bills on time is important. But family gives life it's meaning. Family reminds you WHY you care about politics and paying bills.

Cindie

[djones520]

My mother and I have drastically differant political opinions.  But we are very close.  We even do discuss politics sometimes.  And neither of us have gotten angry or violent about it.

So if any DUmmies are lurking here, I hope you read this.  It is entirely possible to have a close and loving relationship with your family, even if you have differing political opinions.  The only ones stopping it is yourself.  So grow up, and stop acting like a child whose throwing a tantrum because you didn't get the candy bar.

[BlueStateSaint]

Dearest La Coliniere,
     
     As a repug relative I would like to thank you from the bottom of my heart for your effort at making all family gatherings fun again.  Honestly, the spittle and pulled out hair that you left on the turkey last Thanksgiving almost gave grandma another heart attack.  In fact I will pay you to never come around again!  No, you don't have to report it to the welfare office!
                                                       Hugs and kisses,
                                                       Cousin Melinda

P.S. Everyone asks that you please return their pots, pans and other containers that you and yours carried off all the leftovers in from our last gathering. ....or have you sold them for scrap metal?

H5 for both!

[FlaGator]

The DUers had a thread going last week concerning how they did not believe that people could be so shallow as to avoid friends and relatives because they supported a different political candidate. Some woman was bemoaning the fact that a few of her friends tried to do an 'intervention' on her because she was a Hillary supporter. They told her that they couldn't be friends with her if she didn't switch to Obama. Many of the DUers thought she made up the story to put Obama supporters in a bad light. Their logic? In a nut shell they didnt' believe that any one would disown a friend or relative over politics.

[JohnnyReb]

The DUers had a thread going last week concerning how they did not believe that people could be so shallow as to avoid friends and relatives because they supported a different political candidate. Some woman was bemoaning the fact that a few of her friends tried to do an 'intervention' on her because she was a Hillary supporter. They told her that they couldn't be friends with her if she didn't switch to Obama. Many of the DUers thought she made up the story to put Obama supporters in a bad light. Their logic? In a nut shell they didnt' believe that any one would disown a friend or relative over politics.

Yeah, well, that was last week and this in this week.

[BlueStateSaint]

The DUers had a thread going last week concerning how they did not believe that people could be so shallow as to avoid friends and relatives because they supported a different political candidate. Some woman was bemoaning the fact that a few of her friends tried to do an 'intervention' on her because she was a Hillary supporter. They told her that they couldn't be friends with her if she didn't switch to Obama. Many of the DUers thought she made up the story to put Obama supporters in a bad light. Their logic? In a nut shell they didnt' believe that any one would disown a friend or relative over politics.

Yeah, well, that was last week and this in this week.

Not only that, it was disowning fellow Democrats last week, which by its very definition is anathema to them.  This week, it's disowning the "evil Rethugs," so it's okay.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Hey Moonbats, if you don't already avoid Conservative relatives, would it be too much trouble to ask you to start?

 

[FlaGator]

The DUers had a thread going last week concerning how they did not believe that people could be so shallow as to avoid friends and relatives because they supported a different political candidate. Some woman was bemoaning the fact that a few of her friends tried to do an 'intervention' on her because she was a Hillary supporter. They told her that they couldn't be friends with her if she didn't switch to Obama. Many of the DUers thought she made up the story to put Obama supporters in a bad light. Their logic? In a nut shell they didnt' believe that any one would disown a friend or relative over politics.

Yeah, well, that was last week and this in this week.

Not only that, it was disowning fellow Democrats last week, which by its very definition is anathema to them.  This week, it's disowning the "evil Rethugs," so it's okay.

I truly find that watching what passes for logic being expressed on DU is one of the best forms of entertainment on the planet. And just think, all this is free!

[BlueStateSaint]

The DUers had a thread going last week concerning how they did not believe that people could be so shallow as to avoid friends and relatives because they supported a different political candidate. Some woman was bemoaning the fact that a few of her friends tried to do an 'intervention' on her because she was a Hillary supporter. They told her that they couldn't be friends with her if she didn't switch to Obama. Many of the DUers thought she made up the story to put Obama supporters in a bad light. Their logic? In a nut shell they didnt' believe that any one would disown a friend or relative over politics.

Yeah, well, that was last week and this in this week.

Not only that, it was disowning fellow Democrats last week, which by its very definition is anathema to them.  This week, it's disowning the "evil Rethugs," so it's okay.

I truly find that watching what passes for logic being expressed on DU is one of the best forms of entertainment on the planet. And just think, all this is free!

The Eternal Father has the Ultimate Sense of Humor, and He shows it in allowing places such as DU to exist.

[Toastedturningtidelegs]

Ok this isn't one of mine but who is this? Freep?

Renaissance Man (128 posts)       Sun May-11-08 11:14 PM
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37. I think I have the best story!
 Edited on Sun May-11-08 11:16 PM by Renaissance Man
My aunt visited my grandmother about a month ago when my grandmother went in for surgery and some family just happened to be in town (worried about grandmother of course) and after grandma came out of surgery, the family started discussing politics.

There was grandma, somewhat reclined in her favorite chair, after the family was discussing Sen. Obama and the primaries when an aunt (grandma's daughter) of mine stated, "Well, (her husband) and I are Republicans!" Shit hit the fan, and whatever pain medicine grandma was taking must have not been strong.

*Note: Grandma is an African-American woman, born in the Jim Crow South.

So, as the story goes, after my aunt's declaration of being a Republican, grandma tells her, "How could you be so got-damn stupid?"
At this point, I'm literally biting my tongue trying to hold laughter.

Aunt answers, "Well, the Republicans are against abortion?"

Grandma says, "Yeah, they're so pro-life, but they don't have a problem with sending 4,000 soldiers off to die in a war over a lie?"

Dead silence. I think that the aunt was given a harsh pill to swallow.

[Toastedturningtidelegs]

notfullofit (141 posts)      Sun May-11-08 05:44 PM
Response to Reply #8
19. Sorry but
I love my family more than politics.

A politician is a politician, they come and go and when push comes to shove, they all look out for #1 (Pelosi and Reid come to mind)

Well said! You may not last long! You must hate and despise repukes with all of your heart ,family or not, you must do this to gain liberal cred

[JohnnyReb]

Ok this isn't one of mine but who is this? Freep

Not mine....hahahaha

....because I would have made granny very black and auntie a "High yellow" because we all know, blacks don't pat any attention to skin color.

[Flame]

angstlessk  (1000+ posts)        Sun May-11-08 06:23 PM
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20. I avoid my son because he chose a different path...and I would just be
   a problem. I could not accept his way, so I had to leave him to raise his family as he saw fit. He has sent his children to Christian schools and one of the last times I left his house at the doorway, I do not recall the conversation only that I remarked "nothing wrong with being gay" the children both gasped as if I said I was glad Jesus died or something as outrageous. So I have just slipped out of their lives so they can live it as they deem fit.

You know, I m ust believe if this was a conservative poster, posting about a child who had  chosen the homosexual lifestyle, the prostest by the left against the parents  would have been loud an outrageous.  Again, the left believe in choices, only  of the people  choose what the left wants them to.

[JohnnyReb]

angstlessk  (1000+ posts)        Sun May-11-08 06:23 PM
Response to Original message
20. I avoid my son because he chose a different path...and I would just be
   a problem. I could not accept his way, so I had to leave him to raise his family as he saw fit. He has sent his children to Christian schools and one of the last times I left his house at the doorway, I do not recall the conversation only that I remarked "nothing wrong with being gay" the children both gasped as if I said I was glad Jesus died or something as outrageous. So I have just slipped out of their lives so they can live it as they deem fit.

Hey, maybe the son caught momma in bed with a bull dike when he went home to talk his daddy out of the sex change operation.


You know, I m ust believe if this was a conservative poster, posting about a child who had  chosen the homosexual lifestyle, the prostest by the left against the parents  would have been loud an outrageous.  Again, the left believe in choices, only  of the people  choose what the left wants them to.

[Rebel]

Renaissance Man (128 posts)       Sun May-11-08 11:14 PM
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37. I think I have the best story!
 Edited on Sun May-11-08 11:16 PM by Renaissance Man
My aunt visited my grandmother about a month ago when my grandmother went in for surgery and some family just happened to be in town (worried about grandmother of course) and after grandma came out of surgery, the family started discussing politics.

There was grandma, somewhat reclined in her favorite chair, after the family was discussing Sen. Obama and the primaries when an aunt (grandma's daughter) of mine stated, "Well, (her husband) and I are Republicans!" Shit hit the fan, and whatever pain medicine grandma was taking must have not been strong.

*Note: Grandma is an African-American woman, born in the Jim Crow South.

So, as the story goes, after my aunt's declaration of being a Republican, grandma tells her, "How could you be so got-damn stupid?"
At this point, I'm literally biting my tongue trying to hold laughter.

Aunt answers, "Well, the Republicans are against abortion?"

Grandma says, "Yeah, they're so pro-life, but they don't have a problem with sending 4,000 soldiers off to die in a war over a lie?"

Dead silence. I think that the aunt was given a harsh pill to swallow.

Yeah, Grandma, who was born a black woman in the "Jim Crow" South, just plain 'ole forgot that the Democrats ruled in said Jim Crow South. 


 

[BEG]

angstlessk  (1000+ posts)        Sun May-11-08 06:23 PM
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20. I avoid my son because he chose a different path...and I would just be
   a problem. I could not accept his way, so I had to leave him to raise his family as he saw fit. He has sent his children to Christian schools and one of the last times I left his house at the doorway, I do not recall the conversation only that I remarked "nothing wrong with being gay" the children both gasped as if I said I was glad Jesus died or something as outrageous. So I have just slipped out of their lives so they can live it as they deem fit.

This is just incredibly selfish and self-centered. To avoid your OWN child and grandchildren because of a different political philosophy? How hard can it be to attend family gatherings and NOT talk about politics. I have 2 sons...one is pretty much a moonbat (we're hoping he'll grow out of it), married to a wonderful (not as moonbatty) girl. They have a 4 year old daughter and a 2 year old son. (As an aside...I taught them abstinence and for all his liberal views lived up to my and his father's expectations.)

I wish they would attend church. I wish they would share God's love with their children but I'm certainly NOT going to alienate them...I love them tremendously and find much to admire and sympathize with as they work to carve a life for themselves. Besides, by having a great relationship with them, I  can take those precious babies to church with me when they come visit and share my values with them. There's no generation gap between grandparents and grandchildren. (Oh, btw...mothers...the "mommy curse" works...my son's boy is JUST LIKE HIM...ONLY WORSE...it restores my soul...lol).

My other son, my Marine, is a total straight arrow. I tease him that he's my reward for raising his older brother. He's more conservative and a more devoted Christian than my husband and I. He's my hero! How many 23 year olds would still call and say prayers with their mother before bed whenever they have the chance? My youngest does. I love them both with all my heart. Each has his gifts. Each has his faults. They're complicated, beautiful human beings. We have a lifetime of memories and shared history. Severing those ties because of "political differences" is disgusting. Politics is superficial and impersonal. Sure, it's important, like paying your bills on time is important. But family gives life it's meaning. Family reminds you WHY you care about politics and paying bills.

Cindie

Hi-5 for your comment.  I was going to say something similar.  How selfish it is of that DU'er.  

My two older brothers are both moonbats.  My love for them wouldn't change even if they were both normal.    

[BEG]

angstlessk  (1000+ posts)        Sun May-11-08 06:23 PM
Response to Original message
20. I avoid my son because he chose a different path...and I would just be
   a problem. I could not accept his way, so I had to leave him to raise his family as he saw fit. He has sent his children to Christian schools and one of the last times I left his house at the doorway, I do not recall the conversation only that I remarked "nothing wrong with being gay" the children both gasped as if I said I was glad Jesus died or something as outrageous. So I have just slipped out of their lives so they can live it as they deem fit.

Hey, maybe the son caught momma in bed with a bull dike when he went home to talk his daddy out of the sex change operation.


You know, I m ust believe if this was a conservative poster, posting about a child who had  chosen the homosexual lifestyle, the prostest by the left against the parents  would have been loud an outrageous.  Again, the left believe in choices, only  of the people  choose what the left wants them to.

Oh another Hi-5 for you.