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Re: Don asks what should be the minimum wage for pushing a broom
« Reply #25 on: April 02, 2012, 11:12:00 AM »
These idiots think 25 bucks an hour should be minimum wage? What happens when a loaf of bread rises to 10 bucks? Their stupidity should be a case study. Prices are directly correlated to the economy and wage dynamics.

These Libs that have no idea what the work force is all about are in for a surprise.

They know nothing about management both Upper down to the work mules that keep the company in business.

 Without Union workers, this is a whole new ball game.   Gets interesting how life goes.

Non Union promote from within, so a kid right out of highschool, with or with out a diploma, gets a ball breaking job at minimun wage, male or female with no particular skill and gets a $25. cents more and hour after 6 months. At one year another $25. cents and hours an $25 cents a year there after.   After 2 years they get a one week paid vacation.   Keeping an eye on job postings they put in for ANY job qualified or not and sometimes no one else wants the job and their pay jumps by $1.00 an hour.   In two years they have gone from minimun wage to almost two dollars an hour with company benefits for health care, 401K and other benefits. At 3 years when they turn 21, they are granted 2 weeks vacation and if they keep an eye for job postings and paid attention they may get another $1.00 an hour raise Not bad for a kid with no skills when they started.  

Floor sweepers jobs go to the loyal employee of 20-30 years that now cannot keep up with the youth. This is not an easy Job, not just sweeping the floors but carting out 50 gallon tubs weighing half their weight and dumping it, lots of manual work for anyone that works as a Mule regardless of their job. They may get $25.00 ph but by golly they earned it.

Workers rights at one time infuriated me, why were men paid more then women as they had a wife and kids to support?

I see both sides of the problem, Here are young workers coming into a job, skilled or not, expecting to receive the same pay as the loyal workers that bust Ass for years working and slowly getting raises and benefits that they earned by hard work.

Easy question here, Say you worked for an employer for 15 years and found the minimun wage was now twice as it was when you started working, took years of work to get to the wage you are at and now these new people came in making just $25 cents less then you do now and you have to train them to walk and chew gum at the same time ???

BTDT, a bitch as when the minimum wage is raised the long time loyal employees do not get the difference in their pay check.

If You get my drift, everyone starts at the bottom and has to WORK their way up, to expect to start over those that bust ass to work for years at the same pay is, I must say, same as complaining one has 5 kids to support and the job you want needs to be yours should go to you as some old lady with no dependents makes that salary after 40 years.  

We are heading back to the 1950's and 1960's   Damn Libs now wanting to work at a salary that they need for them selves and family. Work is work, If I am a single gal working the same job as a man with 6 kids to support, and find he is paid more then me because his life style choices-----screw that.

Oh and what does this do to the Gay Community, do Gays get less pay then a heterosexual worker because they do not need the money and workers with children need it ????  Something for the non Breeders to think about, Big run on Romania to adopt non wanted children.  

RANT over--for now.  Gina it is bolla, bolla, a penny a pinch. I got a wife the darling of my life singing Bolla Bollae a Penny a Pinch.   I Have a lovely bunch of Coconuts there they are a standing in a row.   Somekind of song from the 1950's that my dad and Mom sang, and they though Elvis was Odd.  









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Re: Don asks what should be the minimum wage for pushing a broom
« Reply #26 on: April 02, 2012, 11:23:14 AM »
Innocently asks "If minimum wage is raised to $25 per hour, wouldn't the cost of services and products increase"? <blink blink>
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Re: Don asks what should be the minimum wage for pushing a broom
« Reply #27 on: April 02, 2012, 11:25:08 AM »
Innocently asks "If minimum wage is raised to $25 per hour, wouldn't the cost of services and products increase"? <blink blink>

Do you mean like in San Francisco where Subway doesn't offer $5 footlongs because of the high minimum wage?

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Re: Don asks what should be the minimum wage for pushing a broom
« Reply #28 on: April 02, 2012, 11:25:46 AM »
Innocently asks "If minimum wage is raised to $25 per hour, wouldn't the cost of services and products increase"? <blink blink>
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Re: Don asks what should be the minimum wage for pushing a broom
« Reply #29 on: April 02, 2012, 11:28:20 AM »
This is for the lurkers.  As all of you here know this, and it's been pointed out a few times in this thread.  I just thought I would add the example that I use when talking about this to a DUmmie.  Although they still don't get it...

Let's just take a Walmart in a small city.  Let's say that Walmart employs hundreds of people at minimum wage.  The largest employer in the city.  BTW, the town my fiancee is from is this exact example.

Now, you DUmmies hate Walmart because they pay minimum wage.  Of course they also offer super low prices.  I don't think any of us are so blind that we don't think those people working at Walmart are struggling.  Sure is good though they have such a cheap place to buy food.

Do you have any clue what would happen if you raised minimum wage to $25 per hour?  The same people you claim to want to help, the poor poor people working at Walmart...  Do you know????  Well they would actually be the ones most hurt by the raise in minimum wage.  How do you think Walmart will pay for this raise?  Or McDonalds?  Or KFC?  They are gonna raise their prices!!!

Example:

You can buy a loaf bread for about $1.30 (Store Brand)
This is about 18% of 7.25 Per an Hour.  (Current minimum wage)
If minimum wage was raised to $25 Per an Hour...
You could expect to pay about $4.50 for that same loaf of bread.

Who is going to be more affected by raising minimum wage DUmmies? 
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Re: Don asks what should be the minimum wage for pushing a broom
« Reply #30 on: April 02, 2012, 11:30:06 AM »
Who is going to be more affected by raising minimum wage DUmmies?

The same people it's supposed to benefit? <blink blink>
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Re: Don asks what should be the minimum wage for pushing a broom
« Reply #31 on: April 02, 2012, 11:34:11 AM »
Every time the DemonRats raise the minimum wage, prices go up and youth unemployment also rises.

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Re: Don asks what should be the minimum wage for pushing a broom
« Reply #32 on: April 02, 2012, 11:47:57 AM »
I was asking myself those questions too. There is something not quite right with this story...
I'm afraid you may have forgotten that DUmmies lie, all the time.

It's a near certainty that every single statement in that bouncy tale is untrue.

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Re: Don asks what should be the minimum wage for pushing a broom
« Reply #33 on: April 02, 2012, 11:51:53 AM »

Gas would be 10.00 a gallon, milk 5.00 a gallon and bread 4.00 a loaf.

Shit, we're not that far from there now.  $4/gal gas, $3.25/gal milk, $2.50/loaf bread.  Just give Obama another term and you'll see the hyperinflation REALLY kick in.
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Re: Don asks what should be the minimum wage for pushing a broom
« Reply #34 on: April 02, 2012, 12:04:01 PM »
Okay, had to nadin it, but the average student with a 4-year degree graduates with about $25K in debt.

Given your typical student loan for 10 years at 8 percent, that comes out to a payment of just over $300/mo (exact number is $303.32.)

So you're telling me that this dipshit has over $100K in student loans and is being forced to pay them off at 8 percent in 10 years?

Yeah, I smell the bullshit too.
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Re: Don asks what should be the minimum wage for pushing a broom
« Reply #35 on: April 02, 2012, 12:05:05 PM »
Every now and then, they just love to float this idea and kick it around.  Everybody gets $35-$50K for free, no questions asked.  Don in particular is fixed on the $50K.  This is both minimum and maximum, everybody gets $50K.  And that's it.  WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE?  

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Re: Don asks what should be the minimum wage for pushing a broom
« Reply #36 on: April 02, 2012, 12:16:21 PM »
The same people it's supposed to benefit? <blink blink>

Ex-freaking-cactly!
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Re: Don asks what should be the minimum wage for pushing a broom
« Reply #37 on: April 02, 2012, 12:21:32 PM »
Innocently asks "If minimum wage is raised to $25 per hour, wouldn't the cost of services and products increase"? <blink blink>


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Re: Don asks what should be the minimum wage for pushing a broom
« Reply #38 on: April 02, 2012, 01:12:06 PM »
Innocently asks "If minimum wage is raised to $25 per hour, wouldn't the cost of services and products increase"?
Any attempt to raise prices is a sign of insufficient taxation.

We would have to root out greed by means of confiscatory taxes.

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Re: Don asks what should be the minimum wage for pushing a broom
« Reply #39 on: April 02, 2012, 01:18:19 PM »
Any attempt to raise prices is a sign of insufficient taxation.

We would have to root out greed by means of confiscatory taxes.


This is exactly how Obama thinks.  It's deranged.  He thinks if we heap a mountain of taxes on oil interests, they'll meekly lower our price of gas.   :mental:

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Re: Don asks what should be the minimum wage for pushing a broom
« Reply #40 on: April 02, 2012, 01:59:48 PM »
OH, lookie.... my DU Ban alert picked up another winner...

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1. Nationalize all industries over 50 employees. Eliminate stockholder boards, install boards that have greater emphasis on needs of people, not the greed of the unproductive.

2. Create a maximum tax, immediately, of all individuals, taxing them 100% when they make 10 million dollars. Create a tax rate of 70%, immediately, for all those who make more than 1 million dollars. Create a tax rate of 50%, effecitve immediately, for all those who make $150,000 or more annually. Up the state tax rates by a similar percentage.

3. Immediately mandate rules for officials. NO private planes, NO perks not available at reasonable cost to their lowliest employee.

4. Immediate minimum wage hike to at least $10 hour, indexed higher for more expensive areas (NY, for instance, would be $15 or so). This will stimulate the local economies, which are key.

5. Eliminate all lobbyists. Period. ONLY citizens can petition their representatives, and then each citizen should NEVER have more access than ANY OTHER CITIZEN.

This is just for starters. This can be done with NO problem if we have a 60-seat democratic majority in the senate.

FINALLY... start the process to decertify financing, and ultimately make illegal, the existence of the republican party through RICO statues.

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Re: Don asks what should be the minimum wage for pushing a broom
« Reply #41 on: April 02, 2012, 02:03:23 PM »
That idiot needs a lobotomy.
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Re: Don asks what should be the minimum wage for pushing a broom
« Reply #42 on: April 02, 2012, 02:03:41 PM »
OH, lookie.... my DU Ban alert picked up another winner...

I think he's the biggest crybaby on DU. Someone give him a tootsypop.

Well, I have no doubt he is a mole.  Almost none of the DUmmies would be that brazen.

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5. Eliminate all lobbyists. Period. ONLY citizens can petition their representatives, and then each citizen should NEVER have more access than ANY OTHER CITIZEN.

Lobbyists are citizens...  They are paid by citizens to lobby for what the citizens want/need.  IDIOT!
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Re: Don asks what should be the minimum wage for pushing a broom
« Reply #43 on: April 02, 2012, 02:10:15 PM »
Hey, CAPHAVOC I have an even better idea. Let's set a national pay day where every employer has to pay their employees on the same day, then what we do is take all the money from every employer in the country and divide that evenly and distribute an equal portion to every citizen. That way on payday everyone will get the same thing and they don't even have to work to get it.  :mental:
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Re: Don asks what should be the minimum wage for pushing a broom
« Reply #44 on: April 02, 2012, 02:14:08 PM »
This is exactly how Obama thinks.  It's deranged.  He thinks if we heap a mountain of taxes on oil interests, they'll meekly lower our price of gas.   :mental:

But what the GOP doesn't have the balls to admit (and use against the Dems) is that while Exxon made $40 Billion last year, they PAID THE US GOVERNMENT OVER $110 Billion in taxes and fees.
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Re: Don asks what should be the minimum wage for pushing a broom
« Reply #45 on: April 02, 2012, 02:17:56 PM »
Don asks what should be the minimum wage for pushing a broom...$1 per hour and 25 licks with the broom handle for being so stupid. Knock some sense into their heard.
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Re: Don asks what should be the minimum wage for pushing a broom
« Reply #46 on: April 02, 2012, 02:23:48 PM »
But what the GOP doesn't have the balls to admit (and use against the Dems) is that while Exxon made $40 Billion last year, they PAID THE US GOVERNMENT OVER $110 Billion in taxes and fees.

Exactly:

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Re: Don asks what should be the minimum wage for pushing a broom
« Reply #47 on: April 02, 2012, 02:26:25 PM »
Exactly:



I can't believe Obama would Omit that and that the oil companies aren't pounding that in the media.  WTF?  :???:






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Re: Don asks what should be the minimum wage for pushing a broom
« Reply #48 on: April 02, 2012, 02:27:36 PM »
Exactly:



How dare they make 2 whole pennies off a gallon of gas? They should be paying out 2 cents per gallon instead.

I may not lock my doors while sitting at a red light and a black man is near, but I sure as hell grab on tight to my wallet when any democrats are close by.

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Re: Don asks what should be the minimum wage for pushing a broom
« Reply #49 on: April 02, 2012, 02:29:32 PM »
I can't believe Obama would Omit that and that the oil companies aren't pounding that in the media.  WTF?  :???:

This has been widely known for years.  When Bush was in office, it was all about him and the gas prices and the little guy can't survive.  When Obama is in office it's the Oil Companies fault.  What the liberals fail to see is the government is making wayyyyy more than the oil companies on Gas.  And this doesn't even factor in all the EPA regulations and crap they have to pay more to follow.  It's f'ing ridiculous.
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