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I've been doing a lot of soul-searching, and I can't help but ask some serious questions:

1. How much is Jesse Jackson going to extort from the Sanford PD?

2. How much is Al Sharpton going to extort from the Sanford PD?

3. Will MSNBC get a cut from Sharpton's extortion?

4. Is Eric Holder or the FBI going to prosecute the New Black Panther Party for crossing state lines to threaten George Zimmermann?

5. If "Blacks are under attack," as Jesse Jackson claims, why aren't there news stories or video of Jesse Jackson protesting in Chicago, where blacks are genuinely under attack (from other blacks, that is) every week of the year?

6. If Zimmermann is only half white, is it possible to prematurely prosecute just his white half, or do we just prematurely give him half the sentence he'd ordinarily get?

7. Didn't Al Sharpton learn his lesson about waiting for facts from the Tawana Brawley incident?

And so on. We need to confront these serious questions head-on, folks.

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The chance of any justice period, for either person involved, went out the window the moment MSM, ABM, Holder and other assorted democrats saw that they could use this to further their agenda and reelection chances.

Mr. Zimmerman might as well kiss his ass goodbye. He will be thrown under the bus repeatedly to forestall mass riots and burnings because politicians are afraid of the color of Obama and Martins skin.
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And get in the way of allowing this to be a major political football? Are you crazy?  :-)

The left doesn't care a bit about Trayvon, if they didn't think they could use this issue he would just have been another story among the millions of other stories on the six o'clock news.
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The chance of any justice period, for either person involved, went out the window the moment MSM, ABM, Holder and other assorted democrats saw that they could use this to further their agenda and reelection chances.

Mr. Zimmerman might as well kiss his ass goodbye. He will be thrown under the bus repeatedly to forestall mass riots and burnings because politicians are afraid of the color of Obama and Martins skin.

Oh yeah now that Holder is going after this in a fast and furious way, Zimmerman is toast, even if it turns out he was in the right they won't dare let him off.

I'm not saying he is innocent or isn't, I'm still waiting on the whole story to come out, but this will be nothing but a circus now.
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Hey, lurkers, maybe you should look at this . . .

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Witness: Martin attacked Zimmerman

Updated: Friday, 23 Mar 2012, 6:19 PM EDT
Published : Friday, 23 Mar 2012, 5:47 PM EDT
 
ORLANDO - A witness we haven't heard from before paints a much different picture than we've seen so far of what happened the night 17-year-old Trayvon Martin was shot and killed.
 
The night of that shooting, police say there was a witness who saw it all.

Our sister station, FOX 35 in Orlando, has spoken to that witness.
 
What Sanford Police investigators have in the folder, they put together on the killing of Trayvon Martin few know about.
 
The file now sits in the hands of the state attorney. Now that file is just weeks away from being opened to a grand jury.

The rest is here:  http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/state/witness-martin-attacked-zimmerman-03232012

I don't care who the prosecutor is, or even if Holder himself prosecutes the case.  I don't think that it falls "beyond the shadow of a reasonable doubt" for a criminal conviction.  In a civil trial, Zimmerman might even walk, based on his injuries in the police report.

Holder is bucking for a 50-year stay in Florence CO, if you asked me.  He has much to answer for in January-February of 2013.
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So Holder headed an operation that ran guns to Mexican drug cartels resulting in over 200 hispanics being killed.

Now Holder is trying to persecute a hispanic man who, while stupid, MAY have shot in self defense.

Why does the Obama administration hate hispanics?
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So Holder headed an operation that ran guns to Mexican drug cartels resulting in over 200 hispanics being killed.

Now Holder is trying to persecute a hispanic man who, while stupid, MAY have shot in self defense.

Why does the Obama administration hate hispanics?

That is a point that needs to be brought into the public view.
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I've been doing a lot of soul-searching, and I can't help but ask some serious questions:

7. Didn't Al Sharpton learn his lesson about waiting for facts from the Tawana Brawley incident?
Sharpton definitely did learn his lesson from the Tawana Brawley deal, but it wasn't what you imply.

Before he cooked up the Brawley incident, Shaprton was an unknown, obscure, Jesse-Jackson-wannabe race baiter.

He had nothing.

The Brawley uproar manufactured by the news media made Sharpton a racist "black leader".

He's in the same class with Kim Kardashian, a zero-talent unknown until she posted a pornographic video of herself and a black boyfriend that went viral on the internet.

Kim and Al are both very wealthy whores.

He's become a national figure and a multimillionaire solely due to one bogus racial scam.

He learned a valuable lesson from Brawley, one that he and Jackson and probably other racist con men are putting into practice in this case.

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The original poleeeeeece report: http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/docs/Twin%20Lakes%20Shooting%20Initial%20Report.pdf

Go to page 3 and see that white Hispanic Zimmerman's account and the 911 call that has the shot by the woman agree completely.

You can get the 911 audio files are here (http://www.sanfordfl.gov/index.html) but you have to go to Trayvon Martin Investigation - Consolidated information with regard to this tragic incident. on the page. I can't link that page.

Eric "My People" Holder will be doing his best to put a spin on this so as to 'brainwash' citizens against stand your ground laws. He told us so in his own words.
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This had nothing to do with the guilt/innocence of the shooter., but I have been wondering...

Question:  I read reports that Trayvon laid in the morgue for three days before his parents were notified. Did his parents ever look for him in that three day period?


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This had nothing to do with the guilt/innocence of the shooter., but I have been wondering...

Question:  I read reports that Trayvon laid in the morgue for three days before his parents were notified. Did his parents ever look for him in that three day period?



I been wondering about that myself. I guess for boys in the hood to go missing for 3 days ain't no big deal. Takes a lot to satisfy the ho's.
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He was on a 5-day suspension from school.  Hardly a model student. 
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He was on a 5-day suspension from school.  Hardly a model student. 

I would be careful stating that because he was on suspension that that automatically makes him a bad student. My senior year a few of the football players were suspended for a prank they did, they weren't bad kids.

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When I was in high school, 1- to 3-day suspensions were the norm.  5- and 10-day suspensions were reserved for more egregious violations.
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When I was in high school, 1- to 3-day suspensions were the norm.  5- and 10-day suspensions were reserved for more egregious violations.

True, that was the same when I was in school "back in the day".

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This had nothing to do with the guilt/innocence of the shooter., but I have been wondering...

Question:  I read reports that Trayvon laid in the morgue for three days before his parents were notified. Did his parents ever look for him in that three day period?



That's wrong. The parents were notified about an hour after they made a missing person report. In fact the police came i three cars and brought clergy for the notification the next morning. They filed the missing person report about 12 hours after he went off to the store. There are rumors that the parents did not pick the cute little tyke up for three days but can't find any hard information on that.
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I've been doing a lot of soul-searching, and I can't help but ask some serious questions:

1. How much is Jesse Jackson going to extort from the Sanford PD?

2. How much is Al Sharpton going to extort from the Sanford PD?

3. Will MSNBC get a cut from Sharpton's extortion?

4. Is Eric Holder or the FBI going to prosecute the New Black Panther Party for crossing state lines to threaten George Zimmermann?

5. If "Blacks are under attack," as Jesse Jackson claims, why aren't there news stories or video of Jesse Jackson protesting in Chicago, where blacks are genuinely under attack (from other blacks, that is) every week of the year?

6. If Zimmermann is only half white, is it possible to prematurely prosecute just his white half, or do we just prematurely give him half the sentence he'd ordinarily get?

7. Didn't Al Sharpton learn his lesson about waiting for facts from the Tawana Brawley incident?

And so on. We need to confront these serious questions head-on, folks.


This got a thread over at the DUmp when I read earlier.  I just KNEW it would be posted here, but it isn't.  It did not mention CC by name, and now I can't find it.  But it was this post verbatim.  It has either been deleted, or I am a lousy searcher. 

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So Holder headed an operation that ran guns to Mexican drug cartels resulting in over 200 hispanics being killed.

Now Holder is trying to persecute a hispanic man who, while stupid, MAY have shot in self defense.

Why does the Obama administration hate hispanics?

It do present the Oh blame administration with a head scratcher now doesnt it.  Blame the hispanic lose the brothers.  Prosecute a hispanic for a hate crime what message will that send to all the other brown people out there, that they aren't black enough?  That is the problem with race politics. You always end up pissing someone off who you disinfranchise.

Obie doesn't have sense enought to keep is mouth shut.  A sad but true fact.  His handlers should put a little tens device on him to give him a little shock when he starts to go off message.  Ditto SloJoe only they would need to up the voltage more.


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That is the problem with race politics. You always end up pissing someone off who you disinfranchise.
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One would have thought that The One would have learned his lesson with the 'acted stupidly' comment. But no - It seems people have made determinations based on inaccurate information about both the victim & the shooter.

Now that this mess has gone viral, soon everyone will know that Trayvon wasn't the cute kid in the photos, and Zimmerman isn't the white Klansman vigilante as has been reported.

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One would have thought that The One would have learned his lesson with the 'acted stupidly' comment. But no - It seems people have made determinations based on inaccurate information about both the victim & the shooter.

Now that this mess has gone viral, soon everyone will know that Trayvon wasn't the cute kid in the photos, and Zimmerman isn't the white Klansman vigilante as has been reported.

A small amount of that info may leak out in a few places but MSM will never allow it to be presented on a national level. A few people searching for info may find it on the net but it won't be wide spread....that's why libera;s want control of the net.
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A small amount of that info may leak out in a few places but MSM will never allow it to be presented on a national level. A few people searching for info may find it on the net but it won't be wide spread....that's why libera;s want control of the net.

I suspect 'Social Media' will do the reporting by itself. Its been my observation that sites such as Facebook accidentally spreads more fact than all of the MSM combined.

Which is exactly why the Liberals want to control the internet via diktat. Except for porn and pirated data. Those things should be freely allowed and available.

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This is from Yahoo, obviously we can't vouch for the validity of it, but the left is just throwing things out there to see what sticks, so whatever:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120321195530AALPKWj

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George called 911 to report a suspicious person. As he got off the phone the kid attacked him and started beating the crap out of him and slamming his head against the walkway. All the while saying "you're gunna die tonight motherxxxxxx". George was screaming help when someone in a nearby apartment called 911 again. George's shirt came up while the kid was beating him, revealing the gun that he is licensed to carry. The kid went for the gun and they struggled for it, George ended up shooting the kid and saving his own life. All these people on yahoo saying that he should be in jail when they don't even know what happened. George is the brother-in-law of one of our good family friends, works with my parents, and is one of the nicest most gentle people you will ever meet. He's completely devastated that this happened and has barely been functional from the guilt. No one shoots someone for no reason, and especially not George. And they need to stop pulling the race card, George is Hispanic, not white."
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This reminds me of the Atlanta bomber case. Everybody was positive of the guy's guilt. The facts, unfortunately, said otherwise. Duke rape case also.

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This reminds me of the Atlanta bomber case. Everybody was positive of the guy's guilt. The facts, unfortunately, said otherwise. Duke rape case also.



The Atlanta guy, Richard Jewel, recently got a million dollar settlement for what they put him through.

The court of public opinion can be a nasty thing.

 
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The Atlanta guy, Richard Jewel, recently got a million dollar settlement for what they put him through.

The court of public opinion can be a nasty thing.

 

That's him. Too lazy to nadin.
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