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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Fri May-09-08 06:14 PMOriginal message http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3264896War With Iran Might Be Closer Than You Think Advertisements [?]Rumors today in The American Conservative, so take it with as many grains of salt as you can.For what it's worth, Giraldi has been right before.Posted on May 9th, 2008 by Philip GiraldiThere is considerable speculation and buzz in Washington today suggesting that the National Security Council has agreed in principle to proceed with plans to attack an Iranian al-Qods-run camp that is believed to be training Iraqi militants. The camp that will be targeted is one of several located near Tehran. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates was the only senior official urging delay in taking any offensive action. The decision to go ahead with plans to attack Iran is the direct result of concerns being expressed over the deteriorating situation in Lebanon, where Iranian ally Hezbollah appears to have gained the upper hand against government forces and might be able to dominate the fractious political situation. The White House contacted the Iranian government directly yesterday through a channel provided by the leadership of the Kurdish region in Iraq, which has traditionally had close ties to Tehran. The US demanded that Iran admit that it has been interfering in Iraq and also commit itself to taking steps to end the support of various militant groups. There was also a warning about interfering in Lebanon. The Iranian government reportedly responded quickly, restating its position that it would not discuss the matter until the US ceases its own meddling employing Iranian dissident groups. The perceived Iranian intransigence coupled with the Lebanese situation convinced the White House that some sort of unambiguous signal has to be sent to the Iranian leadership, presumably in the form of cruise missiles. It is to be presumed that the attack will be as "pinpoint" and limited as possible, intended to target only al-Qods and avoid civilian casualties. The decision to proceed with plans for an attack is not final. The President will still have to give the order to launch after all preparations are made.http://www.amconmag.com/blog/2008/05/09/war-with-iran-m... /
Parche (1000+ posts) Fri May-09-08 06:17 PMResponse to Original message 1. A Pre emptive Attack Is Dead Wrong It is to be presumed that the attack will be as "pinpoint" and limited as possible, intended to target only al-Qods and avoid civilian casualties. The decision to proceed with plans for an attack is not final. The President will still have to give the order to launch after all preparations are made.----I hope Congress is listening, pre emptive strikes are against all International and US Laws, and US beliefs....up until the Bush Admin......If they do something like this, I hope the masses, and I mean masses get to the streets, and westop everything.........
Impeachment_Monkey (1000+ posts) Fri May-09-08 06:21 PMResponse to Original message 3. I just knew in my bones those Mo-F*ckers have been coniving to attack Iran, under cover provided by the endless Democratic primary saturation coverage on TV. Thanks again for dragging this out so long Hillary.Damn. I'm not convinced this will actually help "Bomb,Bomb Iran" McCain's campaign, but since the only tool in the neocon's toolbox is war, war and more war, I'm not too suprised by this.
Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Fri May-09-08 06:23 PMResponse to Original message 5. From The Washington Post http://blog.washingtonpost.com/earlywarning/2008/05/a_s... William M. ArkinA Secret Afghanistan Mission Prepares for War with IranThose predicting war with Iran or some Bush-Cheney October surprise attack on Tehran are constantly looking for signs of military preparations: a B-52 bomber that mistakenly takes off from North Dakota with nuclear-armed cruise missiles; a second or third aircraft carrier entering the Persian Gulf; a B-1 crashing in Qatar.Since the most likely path to war with Iran is not Marines storming the beach but a strike on nuclear facilities and "regime" targets, signs such as these can often just be mirages. The true strike is not necessarily going to come with any warning, and the U.S. military has developed an entire system called "global strike" to implement such a preemptive strike. A secret mission conducted last August over Afghanistan caught my eye because it tells us everything we need to know about the ability of the U.S. military to conduct a bolt-out-of-the-blue attack in Iran. It also tells us how useless such a strike might be.On Aug. 12, 2007, four F-16CJ fighters took off on an 11-hour mission from Iraq to Eastern Afghanistan, crossing the airspace of six different nations, before dropping more than a dozen precision-guided bombs on Taliban targets. The crews of the record-breaking flight received the coveted Clarence MacKay Trophy for 2007, an award given annually for "the most meritorious flight" of the year.More at: http://blog.washingtonpost.com/earlywarning/2008/05/a_s..
samsingh (1000+ posts) Sat May-10-08 12:43 PMResponse to Reply #24 28. we are trapped in Iraq Russia is spending more modernizing its navy than in the soviet days.and China is a hugely powerful.... and we're stuck in Iraq.
Parche (1000+ posts) Fri May-09-08 06:17 PMResponse to Original message 1. A Pre emptive Attack Is Dead Wrong
