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[Splashdown]

On average Reagan created 2 million jobs per year

On average Jimmy Carter created 2.6 million jobs per year

My math tells me 2.6 is larger than 2.0 , what does your math tell you ?

See, here's the problem. I can't find evidence of "your math." All I see is job creation stats that show Reagan's overall job creation in his second term was greater than Carter's.

When you're done with doing your Obama research, could you provide a link to support your point? Thanks.

[Keywester]

Yeah, those 21 percent interest rates and 15 percent inflation might have had a bit to do with it.

Congratulations you're the first person in nine pages to agree with me

Take a bow

Now maybe you can tell these dumb ****s that what I posted is accurate

[obumazombie]

Congratulations you're the first person in nine pages to agree with me

Take a bow

Now maybe you can tell these dumb ****s that what I posted is accurate

Do you have a Carter shrine right next to your owebuma altar ?

[Keywester]

See, here's the problem. I can't find evidence of "your math." All I see is job creation stats that show Reagan's overall job creation in his second term was greater than Carter's.

When you're done with doing your Obama research, could you provide a link to support your point? Thanks.

Of course RR created more jobs in 8 years than Carter did in 4 years

What I am saying is that after RR took office , job creation fell , get it yet ? , job creation slowed when RR took office

[Rebel]

Congratulations you're the first person in nine pages to agree with me

Take a bow

Now maybe you can tell these dumb ****s that what I posted is accurate

What was the unemployment rate when Carter left office? What was Reagan's? What were interest rates when Carter left office? What were they when Reagan left office? What was the average price for a gallon of gas when Carter left office? What was it when Reagan left office?

[Splashdown]

Of course RR created more jobs in 8 years than Carter did in 4 years

What I am saying is that after RR took office , job creation fell , get it yet ? , job creation slowed when RR took office

No. Reagan's SECOND term. I'll type slower next time.

[obumazombie]

Of course RR created more jobs in 8 years than Carter did in 4 years

What I am saying is that after RR took office , job creation fell , get it yet ? , job creation slowed when RR took office

Correlation is not causation. Liberal policies are anti  non governmental job growth. Conservative policies are pro non governmental job growth. It's just a fact you libs are going to have to live with. Get over it, lib.

[Rebel]

Congratulations you're the first person in nine pages to agree with me

Take a bow

Now maybe you can tell these dumb ****s that what I posted is accurate

He's not agreeing with you, dumbass.

[Rebel]

1+1=potato. That's all this idiot understands. He can't understand dynamics.

[NHSparky]

But your math doesn't tell you Obama is cleaning up the mess Bush left?

Actually, quite the opposite--because despite a Democrat-led Congress, Reagan LOWERED taxes overall, and despite the tax increases he did pass--which were supposed to be countered by $3 in spending cuts for every $1 in tax increases--a promise on which the Dems reneged--the economy was in far better shape by 3 years into Reagan's first term than we are three years into Obama's.  

You can in fact draw some significant parallels for about the first 12-18 months, but after that point, you have to admit that if any sustained, measured improvement were to have occured under the current administration, it would have occured by now.

The fact that it hasn't shows that Obama's policies are in fact COUNTER-productive, and a second Obama term would be an outright disaster, especially come around 2014.

[Keywester]

No. Reagan's SECOND term. I'll type slower next time.

Go ahead , post the proof

[Splashdown]

Go ahead , post the proof

You first.

[obumazombie]

Actually, quite the opposite--because despite a Democrat-led Congress, Reagan LOWERED taxes overall, and despite the tax increases he did pass--which were supposed to be countered by $3 in spending cuts for every $1 in tax increases--a promise on which the Dems reneged--the economy was in far better shape by 3 years into Reagan's first term than we are three years into Obama's.  

You can in fact draw some significant parallels for about the first 12-18 months, but after that point, you have to admit that if any sustained, measured improvement were to have occured under the current administration, it would have occured by now.

The fact that it hasn't shows that Obama's policies are in fact COUNTER-productive, and a second Obama term would be an outright disaster, especially come around 2014.

Yes, when owebumacare REALLY kicks in.

[NHSparky]

Congratulations you're the first person in nine pages to agree with me

Take a bow

Now maybe you can tell these dumb ****s that what I posted is accurate

Numerically?  Maybe.  Realistically?  Not a ****ing chance.  Reagan inherited those conditions from Carter.  Unlike Obama, he actually did something POSITIVE to remedy the situation, as opposed a huge increase in the scope, size, and reach of government.

Maybe when you can explain to me the concepts of leading and lagging economics, you might get a bit of credit.  Until then, you're just another ****ing KoolAid chugger.

[Splashdown]

Unemployment rate age 16 and over:



Source: BLS

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

The facts are that when Reagan took office job creation fell that is a fact

The facts are the BLS chart is cherry/dingleberry-picking bullshit.

It says nothing useful. It's a raw stat with no meaningful data behind it.

2.6 million is false on its face, especially when "official" unemployment during Carter's mismanagement was ~7% with an upward trend during his presidency.

As BLS counts part-time employment as a "job" your stat is bullshit if it were compared to 2.0 million full-time jobs.

private sector jobs are an economic gain while public sector jobs are an economic drain

Factor in GDP

etc etc etc


When you come in with only 1 stat with no internal and a dead-set refusal to accept all other data you betray the fact that you aren't looking for answers.

[wasp69]

On average Reagan created 2 million jobs per year

On average Jimmy Carter created 2.6 million jobs per year

My math tells me 2.6 is larger than 2.0 , what does your math tell you ?

That you have no proof to back up your assertions.

I asked you on page 3 to post your BLS numbers.

Still waiting.....

[wasp69]

What I am saying is that after RR took office , job creation fell , get it yet ? , job creation slowed when RR took office

Okay, why did that happen?

[Splashdown]

Hey! This is interesting!

Boy. Obama isn't doing that great, huh?

National Review

[wasp69]

Hey! This is interesting!

Boy. Obama isn't doing that great, huh?

National Review

Is that from the BLS?   

[Splashdown]

Is that from the BLS?   

I figured somebody should post some honest stats. Keywester won't.

[wasp69]

I figured somebody should post some honest stats. Keywester won't.

 

[Keywester]

-the economy was in far better shape by 3 years into Reagan's first term than we are three years into Obama's.  

Carter handed Reagan mild recession

Bush handed Obama a very very deep recession

And you want to compare the two ?

Reagan entered the WH with UE around 7.3 % .... 4 years later UE was around 7.3 %

And you idiots thought it was "morning in America"

[Eupher]

Carter handed Reagan mild recession

Bush handed Obama a very very deep recession

And you want to compare the two ?

Reagan entered the WH with UE around 7.3 % .... 4 years later UE was around 7.3 %

And you idiots thought it was "morning in America"

You're still repeating yourself. Stop playing with yourself and go play in shark-infested waters.

[NHSparky]

Carter handed Reagan mild recession

Bush handed Obama a very very deep recession

And you want to compare the two ?

Reagan entered the WH with UE around 7.3 % .... 4 years later UE was around 7.3 %

And you idiots thought it was "morning in America"

MILD???  AYFKM?  Again, 15 percent inflation, 21 percent interest rates, and oil prices at record highs (even when adjusted for inflation.)  Credibility in the shitter after giving away the Panama Canal, Iran, boycotting the Moscow Olympics, etc., etc.

Believe me, scooter, what Bush handed off to Obama ain't SHIT compared to the late 1970's.  Maybe if you remembered it a little better you'd understand.