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brave primitive was lucky
« on: March 16, 2012, 09:25:40 PM »
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Anybody here ever served 4 combat tours? I guess I was lucky.

I just had one. I took my first R&R at Vung Tau, nursing what amounted to nothing more than a flesh wound. But after two months in the bush, I was pretty tightly wound. Then, a couple of months after rejoining my platoon, Charles got lucky again, and I wound up in Walter Reed. At that point I was seriously pissed. Fortunately, I was surrounded by family and friends, and eventually limped back into civilian life relatively unscathed.

SSGT Robert Bales did four ****ing tours! He received a TBI, was diagnosed with PTSD, and lost a part of his foot. Then the was sent back. Again!

From there, my take is that he lost his shit. He allegedly massacred innocent Afghan civilians, and if true, he needs to answer for that. But can we at least entertain the posibility that he was not of sound mind? That may not prove to be the case, but I'm troubled by the number of DUers who are willing to reflexively paint him as just another maladjusted, murderous grunt.

War is Hell, but combat is a mother-****er. I won't even try to describe or explain it, but for anyone who has never been there to ascribe a motive to a guy who spent 4 tours in a meat grinder is uninformed at best.

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29. In Nam the Army grunts did a 12 month tour. If we were willing to extend 6 months ...

we were give a 30 day leave between tours. I believe the Marines were required to serve 6 months, but were incentivized (ie: you WILL do it) to serve 13 months. It's been a while, but I believe that is correct.
(I for damn sure remember jarheads busting our chops about that one extra month!)

The diarrheal turd in the punch bowl drips in:

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6. No and just shootouts with the cartels were enough of a taste for me.

As people here call him all kinds of names, they forget...

There is a good chance that his lawyers will earn him at least leniency. I will not be too shocked of all he gets is "a slap in the wrist" if they prove what I suspect is going on. In that case I expect outrage from usual quarters.

We should be talking of the very broken force...

And yes even the military justice system has to take into account the mental state of the accused. In this case the court martial will be not just of the sergeant... that is the obvious one. The whole army and repeated deployments will be at trial too.
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Re: brave primitive was lucky
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2012, 09:29:11 PM »
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"a slap in the wrist"
I hate it when that happens.

The nutcase is prepositionally challenged.
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Re: brave primitive was lucky
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2012, 09:30:35 PM »
that sounds painful.  Does it require surgery?
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Re: brave primitive was lucky
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2012, 09:36:13 PM »
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6. No and just shootouts with the cartels were enough of a taste for me.

As people here call him all kinds of names, they forget...

There is a good chance that his lawyers will earn him at least leniency. I will not be too shocked of all he gets is "a slap in the wrist" if they prove what I suspect is going on. In that case I expect outrage from usual quarters.

We should be talking of the very broken force...

And yes even the military justice system has to take into account the mental state of the accused. In this case the court martial will be not just of the sergeant... that is the obvious one. The whole army and repeated deployments will be at trial too.
Nads is experienced with slappng the wrist.
Makes the vein "pop" out.  Right nads.  :stoner:
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Re: brave primitive was lucky
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2012, 09:37:38 PM »
To the lurking tards at the DUmp.

The number of deployments is not relevant.

I've been deployed to the AOR seven times between the three wars.

Your use of this troop for your own self-serving interests is f***ing disgusting.

You know nothing about him, his strengths, or his weaknesses.  Don't even think about passing judgement on him when you have never, ever been in his boots.

I am not defending him, I don't know the details of incident.

I want to see justice served, but I can't stand to read a bunch of f***ing tards and speculate on why it happened.   :argh:

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Re: brave primitive was lucky
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2012, 10:58:49 PM »
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Anybody here ever served 4 combat tours? I guess I was lucky.
No, you sat at the rear.
Tell ya what, wannabe, I lasted five months before getting my sorry ass blown up in Nam.
I have far more respect for Ogre, than I have for myself.
You're a wannbe hero that just couldn't cut the mustard.
So am I, so what?
I made an honest effort, did you?
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Re: brave primitive was lucky
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2012, 11:01:16 PM »
Quote from: chris_ on March 16, 2012, 09:30:35 PM
that sounds painful.  Does it require surgery?
It's better than a poke on the eye.
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Re: brave primitive was lucky
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2012, 01:00:30 AM »
NumbersBoo is the DUmp's current equivalent to DUmmy TomInTib.
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Re: brave primitive was lucky
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2012, 03:45:59 AM »
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...We should be talking of the very broken force...


Don't sound broken to me.  Soldier goes in and wipes out 16 single-handedly, even has the Ahfgan PM believing there was more than just this one, because he saw his buddy's leg blown off by an IED set by the muzzie cowards.

No, that's not broken, that's restrained.  The purpose of an army is to kill people and break things.

Turn them loose.  Let them do their job.

And, no, johnnybravo, you weren't lucky.  You were chicken.
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Re: brave primitive was lucky
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2012, 08:39:23 AM »
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6. No and just shootouts with the cartels were enough of a taste for me.

Is this sufficient evidence to add "master gunfighter" to her resume'?

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And yes even the military justice system has to take into account the mental state of the accused. In this case the court martial will be not just of the sergeant... that is the obvious one. The whole army and repeated deployments will be at trial too.
   

nads, you are brilliant! "The system putting the system on trial". I hope you sent an e-mail to the defense attorney!
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Re: brave primitive was lucky
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2012, 10:02:35 AM »
Can anyone imagine the shit storm that wold be going on if this had happened under Boooooooooshhhhh?

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Re: brave primitive was lucky
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2012, 10:14:47 AM »
Quote from: GOBUCKS on March 17, 2012, 01:00:30 AM
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Re: brave primitive was lucky
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2012, 12:40:15 PM »
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6. No and just shootouts with the cartels were enough of a taste for me.
The mexican drug wars started in 2006, after the Columbian cartels were crippled.

By 2006, nutcase nadin already had over 20,000 arrogant, condescending posts at the DUmp.

Like every other DUmpmonkey, she is a liar.

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Re: brave primitive was lucky
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2012, 12:42:23 PM »
Quote from: GOBUCKS on March 17, 2012, 12:40:15 PM
The mexican drug wars started in 2006, after the Columbian cartels were crippled.

By 2006, nutcase nadin already had over 20,000 arrogant, condescending posts at the DUmp.

Like every other DUmpmonkey, she is a liar.

Uh huh.
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Re: brave primitive was lucky
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2012, 03:28:58 PM »
Quote from: diesel driver on March 17, 2012, 03:45:59 AM
Don't sound broken to me.  Soldier goes in and wipes out 16 single-handedly, even has the Ahfgan PM believing there was more than just this one, because he saw his buddy's leg blown off by an IED set by the muzzie cowards.

No, that's not broken, that's restrained.  The purpose of an army is to kill people and break things.

Turn them loose.  Let them do their job.

And, no, johnnybravo, you weren't lucky.  You were chicken.

I agree with the purpose of an army to a great extent, but I would amend it from Patton's perspective. The highest purpose would be to make enough of the enemy die for their cause that those who remain become gravely uncertain about their cause.
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Re: brave primitive was lucky
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2012, 04:00:36 PM »
Quote from: obumazombie on March 17, 2012, 03:28:58 PM
I agree with the purpose of an army to a great extent, but I would amend it from Patton's perspective. The highest purpose would be to make enough of the enemy die for their cause that those who remain become gravely uncertain about their cause.

I like the line from the movie:

"No bastard ever won a war by dying for your country.   He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for HIS country."

Or something to that effect.

However, when dealing with muzzies, I don't think you could kill enough of them to cause them an epiphany.

Doesn't mean we shouldn't try.   :-)
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Re: brave primitive was lucky
« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2012, 06:33:40 PM »
The only wound 11BeeBee got where from reaching for the chips during the commercial break he took while watching Saving Pvt Ryans Parts.
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Re: brave primitive was lucky
« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2012, 07:22:10 PM »
Quote from: Airwolf on March 17, 2012, 06:33:40 PM
The only wound 11BeeBee got where from reaching for the chips during the commercial break he took while watching Saving Pvt Ryans Parts.
Cripes, I gotta get new reading glasses.
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