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Offline franksolich

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Ms. Ed on the alert
« on: March 16, 2012, 02:57:47 PM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002431292

Oh my.

The unappellated eohippus, Ms. Ed:

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Horse with no Name (28,973 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
 
Activist Alert: Just read on a Planned Parenthood bulletin board

"As a Catholic woman...it pisses me off that before and after Mass, I am now having to listen to the lecture of WHY I should write my congressmen, president etc to protest against the fact that MY president is choosing to make it affordable for ALL women to have access to birth control. The church is trying to battle against this, claiming that it will force them to cover for abortifacient drugs..."

GET YOUR TAPE RECORDERS INTO THESE CHURCHES ASAP!

We MUST work to revoke the tax exempt status of the Catholic Church.

Post these on YouTube. Send them to media outlets. Send them to your Congress members.

The line has been crossed...and it appears they aren't holding back.

Make those kiddy molesters stop sucking off the government tit.

Yawn.

Ms. Ed really needs to return to her milieu, the dusty trailer court and the slatternly daughter.

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1. If they aren't pushing a candidate, they can say what they want.

They are preaching what they consider "morality."

That said, I'm for revoking their tax exempt status for activities that are not directly religious. (If you can figure it out.)

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shcrane71 (513 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

2. I wish they were paying their fair share, but our government isn't going to force this issue.

The first thing we as citizens can do is get our regulatory agencies, like the FCC, to actually work for ALL the people. Maybe grant low power FM licenses to progressive groups instead of locking down the window for providing these licenses for YEARS.

Maybe we can stop the stranglehold that the Right has on our AM public airwaves. Just a suggestion.

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UTUSN (32,352 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

3. R#16 & K, I say repeal the tax exempt off of ALL churches. Wingnut ministers on my radio station

I've been looking at the FCC website on how to file a complaint, not getting much. A couple of years ago IRS told me that they don't infringe on "free speech."

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TheWraith (22,908 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

5. That's not a violation of church tax-exemption rules.

Said rules forbid them from engaging in partisan political activity, i.e. endorsing or explicitly supporting a specific candidate or political party, but not from advocating on specific political issues.

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NAO (3,227 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

6. they are calling for Obama to be defeated to stop the perceived "War on Religion".

I'm not a lawyer, but mentioning candidates by name would seem to be partisan political activity.

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ehrnst (2,275 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

12. As long as they are talking about 'issues' they're not campaigning.

Our UU church spoke out against the war in Iraq, encouraged people to write their reps for marriage equality, and we were very careful to make that distinction between discussion of 'issues' and discussion of 'candidates.'

We knew that our church - which is large and near DC - would be watched for any violations of this during the Bush Administration.

You can tell people to contact politicians, and Obama is a sitting politician, about an issue, that's not in violation of their tax exempt status. You can even encourage people to get out and vote, and sign people up to vote - and still have your tax exempt status.

There is no mention in the OP about them doing anything to vote for, unseat, impeach or recall any politician.

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8. I think the best approach is to stop contributing money to the church.

The church saw a big drop in donations when the pedophile priest scandal made its way into the MSM. Perhaps another big decline in donations will help force the church's attitude toward women out of the 12th century.

It'd be nice to force the primitives' attitudes out of the 10th century.

The 10th century B.C.

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9. A lot of this is up to the individual priest

There's a number of them that wouldn't imagine giving such a lecture. I can think of a few I've known, off the top of my head. Personally, I wouldn't enter a church that maintained such practices... come to think of it, I haven't entered any church at all in quite some time.

I see this sort of thing though, as more of an effort by conservative Priests and the Vatican than by the church as a whole. Quite a number are perfectly inclined to simply ignore the Vatican - and do so. If someone had asked Andrew Greeley, for instance, to give such a lecture, he would have laughed in their face.

There are many corrupt elements of the church and its leadership, but I am convinced that this sort of thing is not being spread throughout every Catholic Church in the Country. At least, I haven't heard of such in my area... yet.

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SheilaT (9,877 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

10. Just wait until some Evangelical Protestant is President. Then the Catholic Church will finally learn that they are truly hated by those others.

We are?

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MsPithy (347 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

11. Undoing the tax exemption will never happen.

Catholics must stop filling the pews and never, ever give the Catholic Church another dime! That is a message they will understand.

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13. Good advice- Really for any tax exempt religious institution that continually slips into the realm of politics.

I suspect that many denominations (especially evangelical) delve into political subjects from time to time. Just haven't had the stomach to find out first-hand.

This very well may be the incentive I need.

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14. Here is a suggestion. Write a letter to your parish priest anonymously telling him that you do not appreciate his political view in church. If he continues anonymously record him then write another letter telling him you recorded him and you will send the tape to the IRS for removing the church's tax exemption. If you have any close friends that you could trust to not spill the beans maybe you can get some of them to do the same thing. Put the church on notice. Oh by the way stop giving the church your money. Send it to Planned Parenthood instead.

By the way, the Planned Parenthoodlums is a religion, too.

It has adherents, well-financed, who believe in abortion like other people believe in God.

I'd like to get the taxpayers' money out of religion, period.  That includes the Planned Parenthoodlums.
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Re: Ms. Ed on the alert
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2012, 03:18:36 PM »
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make it affordable for ALL women to have access to birth control.

YOU ALREADY HAVE TITLE X, YOU IDIOT.

And do you really think that a pile of DUmbasses blathering away to each other on a message board is going to dissolve the faith of millions? 
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Re: Ms. Ed on the alert
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2012, 04:08:15 PM »
I think the revocation of tax-exempt status for all religious organizations would be a great campaign issue for the democrat party!

It would allow them for once to show their true, hateful faces to the public.

After all, whenever a democrat loses, it's because he wasn't far enough to the left.

It would make democrats appear more fair and evenhanded, with their hate for Christianity striking a balance with their anti-Semitism.

It would be win-win for the democrat party.
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Re: Ms. Ed on the alert
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2012, 04:45:23 PM »
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Re: Ms. Ed on the alert
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2012, 04:51:31 PM »
Our UU church spoke out against the war in Iraq,

The UU church...U do the fighting, U do the dying, U do the work, U pay the taxes...
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Re: Ms. Ed on the alert
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2012, 06:40:25 PM »
At first reading I thought Horse with no Name actually attended a church...of course I was wrong. DUers react like vampires to a cross...they would never willingly enter a church--unless it was to hurt the institution, like removing tax-exempt status.
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A bulletin board for baby killers is as close as this Horse is willing to go to a church. The messages are no secret, the Catholics are very open about this and are going to fight the govt (and likely win).

To a DUmmy, this fight is not about contraception, or church and state...its all about the blood sacrifice made to their all providing god of govt. Is satanic to watch them panic if someone objects to paying for their sacred rite of murder. I would not want to watch an unrepentant liberal stand before the real God and try to justify a lifetime of defending/supporting/demanding the murder of innocent children.

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Re: Ms. Ed on the alert
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2012, 06:46:09 PM »
As a Catholic Woman it offends me that the Government is trying to usurp the 1st Amendment.
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Re: Ms. Ed on the alert
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2012, 06:49:11 PM »
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11. Undoing the tax exemption will never happen.

Catholics must stop filling the pews and never, ever give the Catholic Church another dime! That is a message they will understand.

Sweetie, the ones who actually go to Mass in high numbers aren't on the left of this issue.
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Re: Ms. Ed on the alert
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2012, 06:55:41 PM »
If Ms Ed doesn't like it, let her convert to Islam and she can where her feedbag as a burka.
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Re: Ms. Ed on the alert
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2012, 07:55:11 PM »
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2. I wish they were paying their fair share, but our government isn't going to force this issue.

The first thing we as citizens can do is get our regulatory agencies, like the FCC, to actually work for ALL the people. Maybe grant low power FM licenses to progressive groups instead of locking down the window for providing these licenses for YEARS.

Maybe we can stop the stranglehold that the Right has on our AM public airwaves. Just a suggestion.

Yeah. I too wish that the DUers who are too lazy to work were paying their fair share instead of stealing money from those of us trying to work for a living. For instance, if you want to pretend you're a male cat trapped in a female's body that's fine, but it doesn't mean you have to leech money from the rest of us. If nothing else, there are plenty of farms with barns that have rodent problems. Hire yourself out as a mouser.
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Re: Ms. Ed on the alert
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2012, 10:20:29 AM »
Unions should be paying their fair share, revoke their tax exempt status.

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Re: Ms. Ed on the alert
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2012, 07:37:56 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on March 16, 2012, 02:57:47 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002431292

By the way, the Planned Parenthoodlums is a religion, too.

It has adherents, well-financed, who believe in abortion like other people believe in God.

I'd like to get the taxpayers' money out of religion, period.  That includes the Planned Parenthoodlums.

They make numerous "human sacrifices" to their "god" on a regular basis.

Quote from: franksolich on March 16, 2012, 02:57:47 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002431292


It'd be nice to force the primitives' attitudes out of the 10th century.

The 10th century B.C.


Ain't it the truth!
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Re: Ms. Ed on the alert
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2012, 09:36:40 PM »
Quote from: Karin on March 16, 2012, 03:18:36 PM
YOU ALREADY HAVE TITLE X, YOU IDIOT.

And do you really think that a pile of DUmbasses blathering away to each other on a message board is going to dissolve the faith of millions? 
Malcolm X's daughter ?
I always thought title was more of a masculine name.
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Re: Ms. Ed on the alert
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2012, 07:38:13 AM »
Quote from: Ballygrl on March 16, 2012, 06:46:09 PM
As a Catholic Woman it offends me that the Government is trying to usurp the 1st Amendment.

Don't you know that those of us who are Catholic don't have the right to be offended ? DU told me so.  :whatever:
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