Omaha Steve willing to donate

[franksolich]

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Omaha Steve (31,433 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

If Fluke takes him to court???

A co-worker came up with this.

Slander, defamation, etc., could Rush even do a show while tied up in court? I'd give $ to pay her lawyer.

It's a post-and-run campfire by Omaha's Ed Norton; he has a habit of doing that, saying something and then going away.

elleng (29,314 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

2. Yes he could, its civil litigation, difficult to prove. He wouldn't be 'tied up in court,' their lawyers would be for some time, and a trial, if any, would occur at the end.

KharmaTrain (28,544 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

3. Why Not?

As long as he doesn't discuss the case he should be free to work. A lot depends on the nature of the case, the location and the judge as to what parts of the case he could discuss. First lets see if she has grounds to launch a suit and chooses to do so.

jaysunb (7,262 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

5. No need to pay attorney fees...

This is a contingincy case, and I'm absolutley sure there's a war going on, to be the lucky firm to get this case.

Yeah, yeah, sure, sure.

An attorney's going to take this on a speculative contingency case.

Sure.

dogknob (540 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

6. Rush's attorneys will go through her entire life with a fine-tooth comb

Who needs that shit?

They will get some jerk she turned down in high school claiming he butt-****ed her.

Bigmack (5,902 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

12. And her attorney will go through his.... $ettlement... Big $ettlement... no trial.

unblock (21,227 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

7. she could, of course, but the downside is that then her sex life would become fair game

the first and most basic problem is that she'd have to show damage. unless she's been fired from her job or can otherwise argue that the direct or indirect effects of his sexist slurs have cost her money or caused her emotional damage that should be compensated significantly, she still doesn't have a case. or she's got the kind of case where you win and are awarded a mere $1.

i'm pretty sure the "slut" remark itself would already constitute damage, though the amount may not be significant.

but the big problem is that her sex life becomes perfectly legitimate. the defense can trot out "witnesses" saying all sorts of ugly things because probably his best defense would be to argue that his statements weren't lies. if the defense paints a picture of her as sexually active, or at least seemingly sexually active, then he would have a very good shot at winning.

even if it didn't work, her sex life (or lack thereof) would be fodder for comedians and political pundits across the nation.

so, much as i think rush deserves to get sued and to lose, i'm not sure this would overall be a net good, at least not for fluke.

so far i'm quite happy with how this is playing out. his show is losing sponsors left and right, and that ultimately will cost rush AND his backers in the wallet. this kind of justice is faster and probably amounts to a more expensive "fine" anyway.

elleng (29,314 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

9. Agree, 100%, AND the notoriety he (and Rep. Issa) provided her is likely, imo, to enhance her future, as an attorney or whatever.

onenote (19,855 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

10. being able to sue and winning are different things.

A lot goes into a defamation action and I have no doubt that Ms. Fluke will weigh the pros and cons of bringing a suit, particularly since she is viewed sympathetically in the court of public opinion and an adverse verdict in a trial could undo that.

JDPriestly (29,960 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

14. I suspect that Max Kernerly has not read Sandra Fluke's statement or listened to the portions of Limbaugh's testimony in which he purports to quote Sandra Fluke' testimony. In fact, Limbaugh does not just call Sandra Fluke insulting names. He clearly claims that she "admitted" to an over-active sex life.

Doesn't mean Sandra Fluke could win. It's really hard to win a slander claim, but if I were she, I would talk to a number of lawyers about what they think and decide from there. She will probably get really good advice from Georgetown.

It may not be something that the school could sue about, but in my opinion Limbaugh also hurt the reputation of Georgetown.

If nothing else, Limbaugh has offended some very important and powerful people with this one. Most of them will remain silent until this passes over, and then, I would not want to be Limbaugh. His every word will be reviewed.

That is because, when you watch her on TV, it is evident that Ms. Fluke is a sweet, charming, sincere, innocent young woman.

 

BadgerKid (3,313 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

15. There was another RW talk show on recently (Wednesday?) where the host Mark Levin was "arguing" Fluke is indeed a public figure since she had sought or was being sought by Pelosi to give her testimony. He went so far as to suggest this whole thing was a trap deliberately set up by "the liberals."

JDPriestly (29,960 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

17. If he lied about what she said, there is still a question.

He claims he was just joking. That would be for a jury to decide.

JDPriestly (29,960 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

13. I should think there might be a lawyer who would gladly pay to depose Rush.

What a rush!!!

[BlueStateSaint]

I suppose that DAT or another lawyer on this board can help me out here, but doesn't discovery work both ways?

Based on that, during discovery, Sandra Fluke would either:

1) Have to disclose all of her sexual partners for her law school career, or

2) Have to admit that the whole "$3000 for 3 years of birth control" is a lie.

So, either she proves Rush's point, or comes out as a liar.

Which is it gonna be, DUmb****s?

[WinOne4TheGipper]

I'd pay to see that.  All Rush would have to do is show up with a copy of Ms. Fluke's "I have this friend..." testimony and the dictionary definition of the word "slut"...

[GOBUCKS]

Omaha Steve (31,433 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
A co-worker came up with this.

Slander, defamation, etc., could Rush even do a show while tied up in court? I'd give $ to pay her lawyer.

More clever campaigning by Socialist Steve Dawes!

The only problem I see here is his reference to a co-worker. Does a man who's running a disability scam even have co-workers?

Otherwise, the voters of Bellevue should be impressed by someone so eager to drive a conservative voice off the airwaves.

Add to that his advocacy for homosexual football players and his fixation on high school girl athletes, and you have a hell of a candidate.

I can't wait to hear his position on city contractors using non-union labor.

With our help, by the time the election rolls around, the people of Bellevue Ward 1 will realize what an opportunity they have.

[shadeaux]

Steve sure does give a lot of money away.  Hand over fist. He must be union wealthy.   

[Mr Mannn]

dogknob (540 posts)

6. Rush's attorneys will go through her entire life with a fine-tooth comb

Who needs that shit?

They will get some jerk she turned down in high school claiming he butt-****ed her.

Well, seeing that Sandra Fluke goes through $3000 worth of contraceptives and abortions a year, I highly doubt that slut has ever turned down anybody.

[Tucker]

BadgerKid
15. There was another RW talk show on

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recently (Wednesday?) where the host Mark Levin was "arguing" Fluke is indeed a public figure since she had sought or was being sought by Pelosi to give her testimony. He went so far as to suggest this whole thing was a trap deliberately set up by "the liberals."

I heard Mark Levin explain this. He was pretty clear in his explanation. Fluke doesn't have a chance in hell of winning any lawsuit.

[JohnnyReb]

More clever campaigning by Socialist Steve Dawes!

The only problem I see here is his reference to a co-worker of the disability scam. Does a man who's running a disability scam even have co-workers of disability scams?

[BlueStateSaint]

I heard Mark Levin explain this. He was pretty clear in his explanation. Fluke doesn't have a chance in hell of winning any lawsuit.

Meaning, Gloria Allred is doing this:

[franksolich]

More clever campaigning by Socialist Steve Dawes!

I'm nose-sniffing a element of bounciness in this.

I don't think it's credible the big guy discussed Rush with a co-worker; it just doesn't "ring" right.

I'll bet the big guy was just thinking about Rush himself, but wanted to make it seem as if more than he were involved.

[JakeStyle]

I'm nose-sniffing a element of bounciness in this.

I don't think it's credible the big guy discussed Rush with a co-worker; it just doesn't "ring" right.

I'll bet the big guy was just thinking about Rush himself, but wanted to make it seem as if more than he were involved.

Yep, it was all in Big Steves imagination.   He probably imagined an old black and white Perry Mason episode, with Rush being ruthlessly cross-examined for days until he cracked and confessed all his evil doings.

[GOBUCKS]

I still question whether committed Socialist Steve Dawes even has co-workers.

While his union lawyers try to nail the taxpayers on his disability scam, does he even go to the sewer plant each day?

If so, what does he do? Hang out in a breakroom all day?

Unless one is a worker, one cannot have co-workers.

Has he worked even a day since starting at the sewer plant?

This is an issue the voters of Ward 1 in Bellevue should be allowed to consider.

[franksolich]

I still question whether committed Socialist Steve Dawes even has co-workers.

While his union lawyers try to nail the taxpayers on his disability scam, does he even go to the sewer plant each day?

If so, what does he do? Hang out in a breakroom all day?

Unless one is a worker, one cannot have co-workers.

Has he worked even a day since starting at the sewer plant?

This is an issue the voters of Ward 1 in Bellevue should be allowed to consider.

Again, going back to something I'll have to ask again, because the big guy hasn't answered it.

The big guy's resume starts at birth and ends with high school.  Then it resumes again about five years ago, when he started at the waterworks.

What was the big guy doing in between high school and the waterworks?

That's a rather significant resume gap, 30-32 years.

I think this is a perfectly reasonable question.

[BlueStateSaint]

Again, going back to something I'll have to ask again, because the big guy hasn't answered it.

The big guy's resume starts at birth and ends with high school.  Then it resumes again about five years ago, when he started at the waterworks.

What was the big guy doing in between high school and the waterworks?

That's a rather significant resume gap, 30-32 years.

I think this is a perfectly reasonable question.

And one that the good citizens of Ward 1 of Bellvue should ask, and demand an answer for.

[AllosaursRus]

JDPriestly (29,960 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

14. I suspect that Max Kernerly has not read Sandra Fluke's statement or listened to the portions of Limbaugh's testimony in which he purports to quote Sandra Fluke' testimony. In fact, Limbaugh does not just call Sandra Fluke insulting names. He clearly claims that she "admitted" to an over-active sex life.

Doesn't mean Sandra Fluke could win. It's really hard to win a slander claim, but if I were she, I would talk to a number of lawyers about what they think and decide from there. She will probably get really good advice from Georgetown.

It may not be something that the school could sue about, but in my opinion Limbaugh also hurt the reputation of Georgetown.

If nothing else, Limbaugh has offended some very important and powerful people with this one. Most of them will remain silent until this passes over, and then, I would not want to be Limbaugh. His every word will be reviewed.

That is because, when you watch her on TV, it is evident that Ms. Fluke is a sweet, charming, sincere, innocent young woman.

JD, you ignorant slut! If you actually listened to Rush, you would find out, Rush was speakin' of the gal who said it cost her $3,000/yr for birth control.

Now I ask you? Since you can get birth control pills at Wally World for $5/mo, and we have a member who can vouch for that price, just what the hell is she spendin' a thousand dollars a year on, condoms?

That was Rush's argument to the whole thing! Ya wanna know how many condoms ya can buy for a thou a year? You don't wanna hear the number! 'cause even you would have to call her a slut!

Kapeesh!

[Airwolf]

Also important in this is just where is OmahaSteve getting the money for this donation? He begged for tickets to football games and to go to Wisconsin so where is that money coming from to donate to this cause?

[GOBUCKS]

Also important in this is just where is OmahaSteve getting the money for this donation? He begged for tickets to football games and to go to Wisconsin so where is that money coming from to donate to this cause?

He's rolling in virtual dough.

Over one thousand dollars in "pledges" from the DUmp.