the Die alte Sau describes teacher-bashing

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002394679

Oh my.

proud2BlibKansan (90,373 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

When did teacher bashing become the new national pastime?

With spring training under way, fantasy baseball owners across the country are hard at work readying their draft boards and preparing to select their championship rosters. As they do, I have a modest proposal to make that will simplify the whole process: Let’s stop getting weighed down by multiple data points, and start looking at just one number instead – the number of doubles a player hit the previous season.

Too simplistic a way to evaluate something as complex as a player’s overall value to your team? Hogwash. For example, look at last year’s stats and you’ll see that the Kansas City Royals’ Jeff Francoeur smacked almost 50 two-baggers. By contrast, some guy named Albert Pujols hit half as many. By my calculations, then, Francoeur must be twice as good.

Sounds simple enough – unless you know anything about baseball, and which of those two guys is the sure Hall of Famer who just signed a $254 million dollar contract (hint: it isn’t Francoeur). In fact, the only thing effective about drafting a fantasy baseball team this way is that it would effectively eliminate you from competition before the season starts. Yet this sort of magical thinking is exactly what’s happening in New York City right now, thanks to the city’s recent release of its own fantasy rankings based on how the students of 18,000 schoolteachers did on standardized reading and math exams.

Since the rankings were released on February 24, the New York Post has run personal profiles of the city’s “best” and “worst” teachers. The New York Times has run headlines suggesting the rankings are an accurate reflection of overall “teacher quality.” And the New York mayor has brushed off criticism by reminding us all that “no evaluation system is ever going to be perfect.”

more . . . http://schoolsofthought.blogs.cnn.com/2012/03/06/my-view-when-did-teacher-bashing-become-the-new-national-pastime/?hpt=hp_bn1

aquart (64,013 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

1. When a Bush decided there was money in education?

TheMastersNemesis (431 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

2. Too Many Sinking Mentally

Teacher bashing is a sign that too many Americans are mentally sinking to the level of an amoeba. Republicans on the other hand make an amoeba look like Einstein.

Jack Sprat (1,785 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

3. At around the same time that repubs began attacking labor unions, big government, and every other straw man they can create to antagonize their conservative base against. You aren't alone. Stand strong and proud to be a libKansan.

The defrocked warped primitive, she with the face like Hindenberg's, who's been banned from nursing for life.

Because of a man she wanted to "love" her.

Warpy (62,530 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

4. About two months before woman bashing rode in right after it and nearly all of it is being done by males who were failures at school and failures with women.

As always, consider the source.

msongs (25,326 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

5. race to the top and the privatization of public schools for corporate profits first

quaker bill (5,753 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

6. Around 1980 or so

They have unions you know.

Nah.

I figure about five years earlier than that, when the Die alte Sau graduated from college and went into teaching.

baldguy (27,124 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

7. Right. It's not because they're teachers - it's because they have unions.

ProdigalJunkMail (8,740 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

8. when parents started to believe that their spawn were incapable of being little shits...

[jukin]

Since the teachers started indoctrinating the communist/fascist/socialist ideology instead of teaching the children English, math, and history.
Since the inflation adjusted funding for schools has gone up 30 fold and the test scores have remained flat even with all the new technology.
Since teachers started calling themselves "educators."

[DumbAss Tanker]

proud2BlibKansan (90,373 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

When did teacher bashing become the new national pastime?

When teachers decided they were going to use unions to extort massive pay and benefit increases from everyone else.

In general I think the Right takes the teacher-bashing too far, however I'd say in P2B's case it's entirely deserved. 

[thundley4]

Hey proud2BlibKansan , dumb scrunt, workers are judged on the overall quality of their work or their products.  Teachers have students as their "product".  When a teacher consistently produces low quality students that can't read and write, maybe the teacher is a failure.

[BlueStateSaint]

When teachers decided they were going to use unions to extort massive pay and benefit increases from everyone else.

In general I think the Right takes the teacher-bashing too far, however I'd say in P2B's case it's entirely deserved. 

Maybe it's "not far enough" when concerning P2B?

[Karin]

When teachers decided they were going to use unions to extort massive pay and benefit increases from everyone else.

  In exchange for pumping out the biggest idiots ever known.  Too many kids don't know anything, they read nothing, they can't do simple arithmetic, and don't know squat about history.  They're indoctrinated useful idiots. 

[Ballygrl]

I think there's Teacher bashing because the schools get over $12,000 per student at the High School level, and all that money either turns out stupid kids, or kids drop out before they're due to graduate. Peoples property taxes in some cases are sky high to pay for their benefits.

[Ballygrl]

In exchange for pumping out the biggest idiots ever known.  Too many kids don't know anything, they read nothing, they can't do simple arithmetic, and don't know squat about history.  They're indoctrinated useful idiots.

They do know how to put condoms on bananas though.

[EagleKeeper]

Jack Sprat (1,785 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

3. At around the same time that repubs began attacking labor unions, big government, and every other straw man they can create to antagonize their conservative base against. You aren't alone. Stand strong and proud to be a libKansan.

Straw men...right?

Got that? Try to improve the results/performance of public schools and we are attacking straw men.

I thought these folks value education?!?

As it turns out, not so much.

[Doc Savage]

It's funny.  I know a teacher that works in the same school as the moonbat.  Somehow, there is a difference of opinion on professional capability.

[JohnnyReb]

I think there's Teacher bashing because the schools get over $12,000 per student at the High School level, and all that money either turns out stupid kids, or kids drop out before they're due to graduate. Peoples property taxes in some cases are sky high to pay for their benefits.

Maybe in a blue state run by DUmmies it costs $12,000 to turn out DUmb kids but here in red state hell, we do it for less than $5,000 per student.

Hey, how much education does it take to get welfare, foodstamps, buy lottery tickets and drugs.

[Duke Nukum]

When they started supporting Governor Scott Walker.

[MrsSmith]

My husband is a community college teacher.  When he passes a kid through his classes, it's because that kid has proven to have learned the information presented.   If he can't get the student to do the work, or to pass the tests, the student fails the class.  It's just too bad "proud" isn't smart enough to follow the same system...lousy students fail, and repeat next year.  When they've proven to be lousy at making the kid take responsibility, then the teacher will have to take responsibility for their failure at teaching kids reality.