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Re: Apparently we need DU's permission to speak in public
« Reply #25 on: March 07, 2012, 09:56:39 PM »
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8. Left or right, you shouldn't be allowed on public airwaves for the

purpose of deception of the American people and undermining of democracy. A voter who is misinformed isn't good for democracy.

You can't air a commercial that lies about its product or other products...you shouldn't be able to lie about politics under the guise of public discourse in order to sell a party.

And opinion/analysis is different than demonstrable lies.

Wigger wants the Thought Police to enforce his brand of "truth".

Wigger, please.
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Re: Apparently we need DU's permission to speak in public
« Reply #26 on: March 07, 2012, 10:13:20 PM »
Well then wiggs most of the left should just give up now and let decent people have a turn.
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Re: Apparently we need DU's permission to speak in public
« Reply #27 on: March 07, 2012, 11:16:59 PM »
I wish DU had a network of stations like Rush Limbaugh.  For an hour every day, someone could read threads from DU, and let people know what the left is really like. 

We don't want to silence the left, we encourage them to let their real thoughts be known.  Omaha Steve Dawes of Bellevue should be proud of his socialist views and not lie to the voters in his district.  Why does he like watching girls basketball anyway?

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Re: Apparently we need DU's permission to speak in public
« Reply #28 on: March 07, 2012, 11:22:30 PM »
One benefit of my job which will more than likely be ending soon, is, as I traverse the country, I can tune in to talk radio stations that I have preprogrammed in my ADF receiver as I fly, then, when I am not talking or listening on the radio, I can have Rush in the background from a list of stations spread all across the country. If I am airborne early, I listen to Beck, If it's a little later, Hannity, or Boortz.
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Re: Apparently we need DU's permission to speak in public
« Reply #29 on: March 07, 2012, 11:49:34 PM »
I have no problem at all with people letting their conscience be their guides when deciding what products to buy or services to use. For example, I certainly wouldn't patronize a place like Portland's Red And Black Cafe due to the way it refuses service to police. To me, though, it's a completely different thing to organize groups to punish people for the express purpose of silencing someone merely because you disagree with them. It smacks of the fascistic, and while it doesn't rise to the level of a First Amendment issue, private citizens not being the government, it is still wildly out of step with the spirit of free speech that is a cornerstone of our nation.

There already exists legal remedies both civil and criminal to deal with speech that is actually harmful. Libel and slander suits, false advertising, inciting to riot, etc., are there for the purpose of protecting individuals and maintaining order. These little vigilante groups running around trying to impose their idea of "allowed" speech through financial extortion are distasteful in the extreme to me. They are definitely not people who understand what America is supposed to represent. They would counter that those same American freedoms are what allows them to do this, and I would agree with them. I don't question the legality at all, just the motivations behind it, which I think are obvious.
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Re: Apparently we need DU's permission to speak in public
« Reply #30 on: March 08, 2012, 04:47:44 AM »
And in other news gun sales are up. I wonder why DUmmies? Looks like this country may still yet get a second Civil war and it will probably be even less civil then the last one.

I tell my wife that, every day, that it will occur in two years, and it will make Rwanda circa 1994 look like an afternoon tea party.
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Re: Apparently we need DU's permission to speak in public
« Reply #31 on: March 08, 2012, 06:30:06 AM »
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8. Left or right, you shouldn't be allowed on public airwaves for the

purpose of deception of the American people and undermining of democracy. A voter who is misinformed isn't good for democracy.

You can't air a commercial that lies about its product or other products...you shouldn't be able to lie about politics under the guise of public discourse in order to sell a party.

And opinion/analysis is different than demonstrable lies.
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Re: Apparently we need DU's permission to speak in public
« Reply #32 on: March 08, 2012, 09:01:31 AM »
And in other news gun sales are up. I wonder why DUmmies? Looks like this country may still yet get a second Civil war and it will probably be even less civil then the last one.

I'm not betting that it will ever happen, but if it does, it'll make the Yugoslavian Civil War look like a white-glove garden party.  The division isn't highly regional like our 19th-Century Civil War, and neither side is politically organized for it on those lines as was the case then, so it would simply be a bloodbath with hundreds of warlords.  
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Re: Apparently we need DU's permission to speak in public
« Reply #33 on: March 08, 2012, 09:16:57 AM »
I'm not betting that it will ever happen, but if it does, it'll make the Yugoslavian Civil War look like a white-glove garden party.  The division isn't highly regional like our 19th-Century Civil War, and neither side is politically organized for it on those lines as was the case then, so it would simply be a bloodbath with hundreds of warlords.

If there is ever a general breakdown of civil order I imagine the dependent class will be consumed like the veal calves they are. Then it will be outlaw gangs against those carving out enclaves in the city.

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Re: Apparently we need DU's permission to speak in public
« Reply #34 on: March 08, 2012, 09:33:59 AM »
Those of us who live 20 miles away from the nearest paved roads will watch the fires as we pass around our roasted shanks and moonshine.

That's more or less my OPLAN.

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