unblock (21,159 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
7. i remember reading this philosophy in a college morals and ethics course decades ago.
the argument goes that you're not a "person" until you're a moral agent, capable of making moral decisions and actions yourself. so until you're at least a toddler, you don't have the full rights, such as life and liberty, that full "persons" do.
And now you know why liberals are so quick to label all opposition as psychopathic capitalists, psychologically co-dependent religionists and sociopathic survivalists.
As soon as they ascribe a psychological dysfunction to you they can say you are what you are because you lack full mental moral capacity and as soon as you lack moral capacity they are morally free to kill you.
Some may say I'm overreacting and making slippery slope arguments but history from the Nazis to the Soviets to Margaret Sanger, Peter Singer and the article cited in the OP prove me right.
Case in point:
saras (5,228 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
11. Sometimes it shouldn't. Most societies, pre-abortion, agreed. Ugly but sometimes neccesary.
America has gotten bizarrely fanatical in our selective application of idealistic principles to an extremely un-idealistic reality.
Quite frankly, I don't have a problem with their logic, or their conclusions. I think they are well reasoned, quite legitimate, and though I may (or may not) disagree I can see the possibility of sensible debate with them, which I don't see with the anti-abortion terrorists.
THEY are uninterested in logic, facts, debate, rights, the opinions of others, or, as far as I can tell, USING abortion as an EXCUSE to create policies to harm people for their own pleasures.
Quite frankly I encounter ADULTS who don't seem to have enough functioning upstairs to be considered "human", or be able to interact in a human manner with others. They seem to have no grasp that language means anything, for example, but use it as noises you make to get people to do things. They have no grasp that their entire universe of opinion is trivial when set against that of an entire culture, especially one different than theirs. They have no sense of cause and effect, of the idea that the physical world obeys reasonable and somewhat predictable laws, or that actions have consequences independent of the wishes and desires of the actor, that the actor is responsible for. And they think the entire world is obliged to serve them in their ignorance, because they in turn are willing to serve some authority or other.
So, in other words: anyone not living the life of the idle philosopher is fair game for extermination.
Notice how not only is the post self-exonerating it is also self-congratulating. Oh course she's exempt; she's perfect in her own mind.
By the way...
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"saras" is the semitic root word for sin as typified by the blindness, rot and decay of leprosy, which itself is a deadening of the nerves that allow people to feel. ecause the afflicted cannot feel they injure themselves and make no effort to guard or heal their injuries so infection sets in.
I doubt she intended it that way but many times there's a thin line between coincidence and Providence.
Honeycombe8
24. If this is for real, there is a very real difference between infants and fetuses.
Partial birth, late-term abortion mean anything to you?
