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primitives discuss cast-iron cookware
« on: February 26, 2012, 09:13:41 AM »
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oneshooter (4,387 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

Cast iron cleaning and care

Last week I was doing a 1800's cooking demo when a young lady came up and asked me about a problem she had with a cast iron skillet. She said that she had gotten it from her Mom and was trying to learn to cook with it. I asked her what was wrong, and sge said that food kept sticking to it, even though she had cleaned it.
She then proceded to take a 14" CI skillet from the pack her son was wearing. It was polished bright! I asked her how long it took her to "clean" it and she told me most of one day! She said that it had some kind of black rust on it, and when I showed her some of mine she agreed that it had looked like that. I patiently showed her the error of her ways and proceded to show he how to season it properly.

Moral of this story: You can clean your cast iron using dish soap and water, lightly scrub it, but don't soak it! If things stick, bacon is bad about leaving things behind, get a 1-1 1/2" putty knife and scrape it off, then clean with a plastic dish brush. DO NOT put into a dishwasher, the soap contains grit wich sandblasts the seasoning off. Most of my dutch ovens I bake in need only a good wiping with a clean towel.

franksolich uses his cast-iron cookware only during the three months of winter.  Come spring, he cleans them up and puts them away for nine months.

During the three months of winter, though, I never bother with cleaning it, other than simply wiping it with a paper towel.  Unwilling to leave dirty dishes out, I stash them out of sight in the oven of the natural-gas stove, which I don't use, because I have an unexplodable portable electric oven sitting on a counter of the kitchen.

This stuff is w-a-a-a-a-y older than I am, from my great-grandmother's kitchen, from the 1880s or 1890s or soemthing.

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Staph (2,110 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

1. Your mileage may vary.

My mom has had a couple of cast iron skillets for at least 60 years. They been put in the dishwasher for as long as she's had a dishwasher. No problems.

I've had my three cast iron skillets and one Dutch oven for 15 years. Dishwasher -- no problems.

I think the trick is to season well to begin, and stay away from steel wool or other harsh abrasives.

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Gormy Cuss (24,769 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

2. Ooh! Cast iron care is always good for a flamefest...

or at least as much of a flamefest as we ever have in C&B.

I have my grandmother's eighty year-old skillet, one of my mother's and one that I bought thirty years ago. They all have the same uniform black surface on the inside and the only way to tell which is the oldest is it has a more nubby appearance on the outside.

After light duty, I wipe them out without washing. Otherwise I hand wash with a little dish detergent and a scrubber as needed. If I use soap, I'm careful to rinse the pan thoroughly. dry it with a paper towel, then heat it on the stove until medium hot, shut off the heat, drizzle a small amount of vegetable oil into the pan and rub the oil into the entire interior surface using a clean paper towel. It's the way my grandmother and mother took care of their pans too.

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Melissa G (8,912 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

3. I'm in your camp but I don't always do the oil care after the heat.

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5. I do what you do, minus the soap

I may just wipe it out, or give it HOT HOT water with a scrubby sans soap, then dry it over the flame on the stove. Once all the water is cooked off, I take a tiny bit of shortening (which is the only thing I use shortening for, except for one molasses cookie recipe) on a clean paper napkin or towel and rub the shortening into the hot pan.

let it cool and it's ready to go in the cupboard til the next time.

I bought a new Lodge grill pan, it's still getting it's legs under it, but all Grammy's Wagner CI is silky smooth as a baby's bottom

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Gormy Cuss (24,769 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

7. I've used shortening too.

The inside of the pan has to have that sheen from a fat layer or I can't put it away.

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Major Nikon (2,414 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

4. It's pretty hard to mess up cast iron

Even if you treat them improperly, they can be cleaned up and seasoned again. About the only way you can destroy one is to crack or warp it, and you have to work pretty hard to do that although older cast iron will crack more readily than new. It is possible for cast iron to become pitted, but this is much harder to do than aluminum.

The Lodge web site lists care and re-seasoning instructions. I have my own methods that I like better, but the ones listed certainly work.

http://www.lodgemfg.com/use-care-seasoned-cast-iron.asp

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pengillian101 (1,976 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

6. The only time I saw my Mom cry...

was when she dropped her cherished, vintage, heirloom, family, huge fry pan on the floor and it broke exactly in half. Broke my heart.

The frypan was too old to take it. Sure enjoyed some great meals from it before that though.

NEVER a wire scouring pad or soap was ever was used - it just got old and brittle I guess. Luckily, my inherited and my new ones have fared better. They've never seen a drop of soap. If stuff ever sticks, I heat it again after the meal with water until boiling removes the stuck-on stuff. Learned that trick camping many years ago. Take a metal spatula to remove gunk, rinse, wipe dry and it's good to go.

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11. I use the boil-off-the-gunk method, too.

I will dry it on the stove and add another coat of oil, too.

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HopeHoops (27,799 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

8. Recondition it - hot oven, shortening, and about an hour. They all need that once in a while.

You NEVER scrub cast iron - ever. It destroys the seasoning. A plastic scrubber brush and dishwashing liquid are fine, but never use anything like steel wool or copper pads. Cast Iron last forever and it is way superior to Teflon pans. I've got a shitload of cast iron ranging from griddles to dutch ovens. They're the best thing to cook in, especially if you have an anemic wife (which I do) who is pregnant (which she isn't anymore).

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9. I do have a few stainless skillets, but we cook almost everything in cast iron.

I even have a cast iron wok, but Bill prefers his lighter one.

None of it EVER goes in the dishwasher.

I do occasionally use hot soapy water, and I have soaked occasionally rather than boiling stuff off, because I have an induction cooktop, but as a rule, I don't have any maintenance trouble with mine. They stay well seasoned.

I have some of my grandmother cast iron, and it's ooooooollllddddd. She used to burn hers off from time to time if they got funky, but I have never done that. Her pans are my best.

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10. My cast iron skillet is so heavy it takes two hands to lift it from the stovetop. I am always afraid I will drop it on my tile floor.

It once belonged to my grandmother, then my mother, and now me. I have made some killer milk gravy to go with the biscuits and elk steak breakfasts my family once loved. Sadly, I don't cook like that anymore, but still use it on occasion when my other half wants "real" fried chicken.

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12. I never use soap on my cast iron. If it ever needs to be scoured I use salt.

I have some of the best cookware money can buy, a set of French copper and a set of Allclad but 90% of my cooking is done in my cast iron.

So well seasoned that I can make a perfect crepe.

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13. I use Kosher Salt b/c the granules are larger.

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rhett o rick (20,101 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

14. I have an old cast iron skillet that was handed down but never have used it.

It appears to have a light coating of rust. Is that normal?

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15. Scour it down with a little hot water, salt and one of those green scotchbright things

Wipe it down with cooking oil or shortning (not Olive oil cause it burns at too low a temp) and stick it in the oven at 400 degrees for about an hour. Start using it. The more you use it, the better it will get. You may have to season it a few times before it really starts to be effective. When it has turned Black it should be perfect. A quick hit of Pam and a few drops of oil and you will never use Teflon again. Try it. I'm betting that once you get used to it, it will be your go to pan and you will end up buying more.

I don't have a teflon pan in my house. Don't need one cause nothing sticks to well seasoned cast iron.

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16. Agree. And, as an aside, I store my cast iron in the oven. Not a cabinet.

Once seasoned, they stay nice and rust free.

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19. Thank you. I dont have any shortning in the house. Doesnt it contain hydrogenated oils?

I have olive oil and canola oil. Both have smoke points of around 465 degrees F.

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22. shortening (or flaxseed oil as mentioned) is best

It needs to be a high smoke point. Oil it and stick it in a hot oven. Is it an heirloom pan, or a new one? A new one would rust if left unseasoned. An heirloom one probably is just showing light surface rust. Either way, you'll have to remove the rust and reseason.

If you oil it after every use, it will eventually build a seamless smooth finish

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17. I have found the ultimate best way to season cast iron

Flaxseed oil.

Try it.

Clean the pan in the self-cleaning cycle of the oven, wipe all the ash off, apply the lightest coating of flaxseed oil (use the encapsulated form, the kind sold as supplements, 2-3 capsules is enough per pan per coating) then heat in oven as usual for seasoning.

The.best.coating.EVER.

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20. I haven't cooked with cast iron in forever.

I think I'll dig mine out, try to get it conditioned again, and start cooking the right way.

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21. I have 4 cast iron skillets

A 14-in large pan, a 12-in skillet, a 12-in dutch oven size, and a 8-in small skillet.

that and a large pot for boiling water is about all I use.

franksolich has seven pieces of cast-iron cookery, all of them more than twice as old as he is.

A 6" round frying pan, a 10" round frying pan, an 18" round frying pan, a rectangular griddle 6" x 14", a 10" round frying pan without the sides (a griddle?--not sure), a 10" round pot minus the lid, and a 14" square frying pan.

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Re: primitives discuss cast-iron cookware
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2012, 09:18:35 AM »
I bought a couple of cast iron pans last year, I don't use them a lot though, but so far so good. I want to get the cast iron dutch oven also.
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Re: primitives discuss cast-iron cookware
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2012, 09:31:32 AM »
I got a 10" skillet for Christmas. I've used it every opportunity I could. I love the thing. Rince the hot skillet with water, dry it well, put it over low heat, wipe it out with veg. oil, wipe it well, it's done.
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Re: primitives discuss cast-iron cookware
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2012, 10:30:42 AM »
We use rock salt and a paper towel to clean of any food that sticks.  Otherwise we just wipe it out. The wife has a bad habit with cast iron cookware.  Most of them you cant see yourself in the mirror shine of the bottom.
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Re: primitives discuss cast-iron cookware
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2012, 10:58:27 AM »
I bought a couple of cast iron pans last year, I don't use them a lot though, but so far so good. I want to get the cast iron dutch oven also.

We want to get a cast-iron Dutch oven as well.
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Re: primitives discuss cast-iron cookware
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2012, 11:28:25 AM »
I don't like them.  I only use cast iron dutch ovens when I have to do some camp baking without any civilized tools.  Like a stove (even propane).  And can't get away with everything in pans or kettles.

I think I could lose my cowboy card over this, but I just don't like cast iron cookware.

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Re: primitives discuss cast-iron cookware
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2012, 01:07:52 PM »
We want to get a cast-iron Dutch oven as well.

I saw it at Walmart for a good price, and it was a good brand, it was under $30.
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Re: primitives discuss cast-iron cookware
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2012, 01:35:43 PM »
The "boss" has a 9" frying pan she uses to bake cornbread in.    :drool:
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Re: primitives discuss cast-iron cookware
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2012, 01:51:55 PM »
We have alot of stoneware with similar seasoning requirements - though I will periodically put them though a hot cycle in the dishwasher without detergent. It does a good job softening up anything that needs to come out without destroying the seasoning. 

We have gotten looks of horror from people who think the stoneware is absolutist filthy - I suspect they would be even more horrified to learn that we use the same 'dirty' stoneware to cook dinners as well as cakes and pies.

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« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2012, 01:54:24 PM »
The "boss" has a 9" frying pan she uses to bake cornbread in. :drool:

UGH! I keep forgetting you can use cast iron in the oven.
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Re: primitives discuss cast-iron cookware
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2012, 02:33:38 PM »
I have always used nothing but cast iron cookware. I have the run of the mill black stuff. My wife on the other have has about 30 pieces of le creuset. She paid 180.00 for one stupid frying pan. Adding insult to injury, she has at least the same number of All Clad cookware.

I do have a black one that I use only for cornbread.
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« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2012, 02:42:43 PM »
I have always used nothing but cast iron cookware. I have the run of the mill black stuff. My wife on the other have has about 30 pieces of le creuset. She paid 180.00 for one stupid frying pan. Adding insult to injury, she has at least the same number of All Clad cookware.

I do have a black one that I use only for cornbread.

It ain't cornbread if it doesn't come out of a cast iron skillet. I have a cast iron skillet that I've had longer than my wife, and we got married in 83.

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« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2012, 09:06:37 PM »
I love my Dutch oven. I use it for camping. I cook everthing from sausage gravy, cornish game hens to apple cobler.


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She then proceded to take a 14" CI skillet from the pack her son was wearing. It was polished bright! I asked her how long it took her to "clean" it and she told me most of one day! .

her son was carrying a 14" cast iron skillet in his pack? 
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took her most of a day to clean one pan?
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