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Another example of DUchebag teacher unions' ideas
« on: February 25, 2012, 04:31:32 PM »
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Teacher Quality Widely Diffused, Ratings Indicate
The controversial ratings of roughly 18,000 New York City teachers released on Friday showed that teachers who were most and least successful in improving their students’ test scores could be found all around — in the poorest corners of the Bronx, like Tremont and Soundview, and in middle-class neighborhoods of Queens, like Bayside and Forest Hills.

They taught in schools in wealthy swaths of Manhattan, but also in immigrant enclaves.

They were in similar proportions in successful and struggling schools, and they were just as likely to have taught the most challenging of students and the most accomplished.

The ratings, known as teacher data reports, covered three school years ending in 2010, and are intended to show how much value individual teachers add by measuring how much their students’ test scores exceeded or fell short of expectations based on demographics and prior performance. Such “value-added assessments” are increasingly being used in teacher-evaluation systems, but they are an imprecise science. For example, the margin of error is so wide that the average confidence interval around each rating spanned 35 percentiles in math and 53 in English, the city said. Some teachers were judged on as few as 10 students.

full: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/25/education/teacher-quality-widely-diffused-nyc-ratings-indicate.html?pagewanted=all

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1. How many teachers inflate grades because they have to?

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To keep everyone happy inflated grades with mysterious 'extra credit'

Perhaps they could start to evaluate school boards instead?

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As a newly minted teacher, I was totally 'green' when it came to grading my students. I got called into my assistant principal's office. She informed me that I could NOT give any of my students less than a 65 on their first 9-weeks report card. Fourteen of my students had earned far less than a 65, and one had done absolutely no work whatsoever--and, of course, that was considered 'my fault,' since I didn't do whatever it took to 'engage' him (turned out, he was a gang member, and attended school only to prevent his father facing charges for his chronic truancy).

I had one student who worked his butt off and only made a 65. He was understandably furious when he learned that the other students who performed poorly, or failed to turn in their work, were given a 65 without having to do the work. After that, he refused to work hard, telling me that he could get the same grade "without the drama."

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Re: Another example of DUchebag teacher unions' ideas
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2012, 04:59:40 PM »
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They were in similar proportions in successful and struggling schools, and they were just as likely to have taught the most challenging of students and the most accomplished.

A few things.  Not all bad teachers are in the poor schools.  Not all good teachers are hiding where the money is.  The tests seem to be working, so what's the problem?  Get rid of the bad teachers.

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Re: Another example of DUchebag teacher unions' ideas
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2012, 05:17:39 PM »
I'm waiting for Stupid Anne and Challenged Pam to show up to that one.
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Re: Another example of DUchebag teacher unions' ideas
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2012, 05:28:12 PM »
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As a newly minted teacher, I was totally 'green' when it came to grading my students. I got called into my assistant principal's office. She informed me that I could NOT give any of my students less than a 65 on their first 9-weeks report card. Fourteen of my students had earned far less than a 65, and one had done absolutely no work whatsoever--and, of course, that was considered 'my fault,' since I didn't do whatever it took to 'engage' him (turned out, he was a gang member, and attended school only to prevent his father facing charges for his chronic truancy).

I had one student who worked his butt off and only made a 65. He was understandably furious when he learned that the other students who performed poorly, or failed to turn in their work, were given a 65 without having to do the work. After that, he refused to work hard, telling me that he could get the same grade "without the drama."

If anyone ever wanted a real life shining example of all the failures of liberalism and socialism there it is right there.
Still though they are too ignorant to realize it.

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Re: Another example of DUchebag teacher unions' ideas
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2012, 06:58:48 PM »
I'm waiting for Stupid Anne and Challenged Pam to show up to that one.

this one is made to order for Madfloridian but she's lost in the forest.
Come to think of it, unions do create jobs. Companies have to hire two workers to do the work of one.

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Re: Another example of DUchebag teacher unions' ideas
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2012, 07:20:24 PM »
If anyone ever wanted a real life shining example of all the failures of liberalism and socialism there it is right there.
Still though they are too ignorant to realize it.

I totally agree.

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Re: Another example of DUchebag teacher unions' ideas
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2012, 07:31:47 PM »
chervilant is asking for a 2-ton cookie delivery.


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Re: Another example of DUchebag teacher unions' ideas
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2012, 08:09:36 PM »
If anyone ever wanted a real life shining example of all the failures of liberalism and socialism there it is right there.
Still though they are too ignorant to realize it.
This is almost verbatim an e-mail that was going around in 2008 explaining socialism.  Even when they live it, practice it, teach it, and type it out with their own fingers, they do not SEE it.  Astounding.