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Koran disrespect
« on: February 22, 2012, 05:53:31 AM »
Sure y'all have heard about the US base over in the ME burning some korans.  The Muslims are protesting right now and the terrorists are using it for their benefit.  After all that we know how those people will react, how could this have happened ?  Seems there would be Training on the Koran and not "hurting" it's precious pages. 

Think it's intentional?






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Re: Koran disrespect
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2012, 06:46:33 AM »
Sure y'all have heard about the US base over in the ME burning some korans.  The Muslims are protesting right now and the terrorists are using it for their benefit.  After all that we know how those people will react, how could this have happened ?  Seems there would be Training on the Koran and not "hurting" it's precious pages. 

Think it's intentional?

As stated elsewhere, like more than 10 percent of those rock-chuckers could read the thing in the first place.
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Re: Koran disrespect
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2012, 07:16:21 AM »
I'd make an announcement, we don't get the same number of people or higher protesting the protesters and supporting the United States, we're pulling out tomorrow. Make a choice. The United States, or the Taliban. Qu'ran burnings, or beheadings and shooting in the soccer stadium. Open elections, or totalitarian rule. Make a choice.
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Re: Koran disrespect
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2012, 08:27:51 AM »
I'd make an announcement, we don't get the same number of people or higher protesting the protesters and supporting the United States, we're pulling out tomorrow. Make a choice. The United States, or the Taliban. Qu'ran burnings, or beheadings and shooting in the soccer stadium. Open elections, or totalitarian rule. Make a choice.

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Re: Koran disrespect
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2012, 09:01:54 AM »
Sounds like pure tunnel vision, the Korans had supposedly been written in by prisoners, and therefore could have been disposed of by burning IF the idea had occurred to the Air Force to ask an imam to oversee or do it. 

The Air Force is not a people organization, it's just about flying planes, and they often show a certain tunnel vision when it comes to dealing with actual people, especially non-Air Force people.  An Army or Marine infantry 2LT with a week on the ground would have probably known better.  A stupid and unnecessary act with easily-foreseeable consequences.
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Re: Koran disrespect
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2012, 09:15:23 AM »
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Re: Koran disrespect
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2012, 09:45:06 AM »
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Re: Koran disrespect
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2012, 01:43:08 PM »
Sounds like pure tunnel vision, the Korans had supposedly been written in by prisoners, and therefore could have been disposed of by burning IF the idea had occurred to the Air Force to ask an imam to oversee or do it. 

The Air Force is not a people organization, it's just about flying planes, and they often show a certain tunnel vision when it comes to dealing with actual people, especially non-Air Force people.  An Army or Marine infantry 2LT with a week on the ground would have probably known better.  A stupid and unnecessary act with easily-foreseeable consequences.

And since they had already been written in they had already been desecrated. The anger should of course be directed at he prioners that did this and not the troops, Then again logic and truth were never the goals of the media or the goons protesting all of this.
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Re: Koran disrespect
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2012, 02:03:01 PM »
I guess I have just one question.......who shot their mouth off to someone that they shouldn't.  IMO a US military base (especially in a war zone) is processing and destroying documents all the time......the miltary runs on paper.  If someone is going to hot-foot it to the local mosque yelling "the Americans are burning Korans".......they can just as easily be passing classified operational details to that same mosque......

Isn't  there any OPSEC on bases over there??

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Re: Koran disrespect
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2012, 02:17:22 PM »
I guess I have just one question.......who shot their mouth off to someone that they shouldn't.  IMO a US military base (especially in a war zone) is processing and destroying documents all the time......the miltary runs on paper.  If someone is going to hot-foot it to the local mosque yelling "the Americans are burning Korans".......they can just as easily be passing classified operational details to that same mosque......

Isn't  there any OPSEC on bases over there??

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im guessing some locals were around when the burning happened. it probably wasnt done in the most private of locations, especially not with other "important documents"

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Re: Koran disrespect
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2012, 02:25:23 PM »
im guessing some locals were around when the burning happened. it probably wasnt done in the most private of locations, especially not with other "important documents"

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The books were mistakenly thrown out with the trash at Bagram Air Field north of Kabul and were on a burn pile Monday night before Afghan laborers intervened around 11:00 p.m., according to NATO and Afghan officials.

The workers doused the flames with their jackets and mineral water before marching out of Bagram in a fury, carrying with them the charred remains, according to Sabir Safar, secretary of the provincial council of Parwan, the province where Bagram is located.
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I don't see why they're still rioting.  The MIC, (Muslim in Chief = Obama) has apologized.

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Re: Koran disrespect
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2012, 02:25:48 PM »
Goes to show how primitive and backwards these religion of peace   people are.  I can't wrap my mind around the notion they're butt hurt over their Koran being burned, but okay with honor killings, beheadings, bombings and the like.  When apologies are tendered to Christians for not allowing us to build a church in Saudi Arabia, or the murder of critics of Islam, then I might give a flying **** about burning a book.  Pisses me off our military is constantly being forced into the role of appeaser to thugs, criminals, and lowlife scum of the earth simply because they profess to be Muslim. :bird:
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Re: Koran disrespect
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2012, 02:26:33 PM »
im guessing some locals were around when the burning happened. it probably wasnt done in the most private of locations, especially not with other "important documents"

Well......if that's the case, it ranks just about as high on the "stupid meter" as allowing cameras into Abu Graib.....

I sometimes think that we're our own "worst enemy"......

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« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2012, 02:33:10 PM »

I sometimes think that we're our own "worst enemy"......

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Re: Koran disrespect
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2012, 03:23:37 PM »
I guess I have just one question.......who shot their mouth off to someone that they shouldn't.  IMO a US military base (especially in a war zone) is processing and destroying documents all the time......the miltary runs on paper.  If someone is going to hot-foot it to the local mosque yelling "the Americans are burning Korans".......they can just as easily be passing classified operational details to that same mosque......

Isn't  there any OPSEC on bases over there??

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From what I've heard, apparently some local workers were present when they did it, and were appalled by it, trying to pull the books out of the fire.  They do take the whole "Holy words of Allah" thing very seriously, it is not just a convenient excuse to act nutzoid.  Someone on our side just plain screwed the pooch, there is no way to put enough icing on that cowpie to make it into a cake. 
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Re: Koran disrespect
« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2012, 03:35:07 PM »
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Re: Koran disrespect
« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2012, 03:43:39 PM »
A few years back a bunch of muslims took over a church in Israel and held a bunch of hostages. While there they shit in the floor and wiped their ass on pages from the bible. ....and the Christians rioted killing....zero muslims.

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Re: Koran disrespect
« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2012, 03:51:10 PM »
They have no respect for us why should we heathens respect them?

I don't.
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Re: Koran disrespect
« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2012, 03:52:49 PM »
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Re: Koran disrespect
« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2012, 10:24:23 PM »
The religion of peace. Peace through killing. Maybe they meant piece.
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Re: Koran disrespect
« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2012, 07:37:31 AM »
The religion of peace. Peace through killing. Maybe they meant piece.

Devils advocate here.

What was the traditions and life style of civilizations 15 hundred years ago, culture and life style then is incomprehensible to us today.  What is evil to us today was just normal life style and survival a thousand years ago.


YET, hard as it is to believe some society's still today follow the life style from the far past to the last 2-3 hundred years.

We still have the far out Conservative Jews that still today believe in stoning woman that flaunting themselves, very old and not so different rules from the Muslim Koran where Mohammad may have gotten his ideas from.  Some sects demand a wife to shave their heads to become unattractive to other men.  The woman wear wigs in public.

Sad to say Mohammad got most of his ideas from our Old and New Testament as it was at the time.

Is the Koran so far from the outlaw Mormons with their multiple wives, sexual marriages to 12 year old girls, the old men booting out young males that may become a challenge for them over the preteen wives ???  All adult woman must dress alike, even down to hair styles, are these woman modern day concubines, only the first legal wife has rights, all others are spiritual wives.   Their children are not their own, they have no say in their lives, unless they tow the line a child can be taken from its mother and raised by another wife more fitting.

Some Churches, Christian teach a woman is to be subservient to their husbands, if there is no husband due to death or non marriage they must subjugate them selves to either an elder male in the family or if none then to an elder male in the church.   Not that far from the Koran in teaching subservience to their woman.

The Male is on top of the family, matters not that he may be mentally ill, a pervert, a total creep, a woman marries them by choice or arranged marriage, has no choice but to defer to what ever he wishes including rape of her children or death to them that in some way displeases him.

So today it is not JUST the Koran that incites people to kill non believers, Old Testament has books and books of God ordering the death of intire city's of people that worship another God.--------In one astounding piece God ordered the death to not only the people but to their animals and a scorched earth on their crops.

Allah is a jealous God, but one that is willing to debate with Jehovah over the out come of Job and what kind of horror they could conflict on him and his family.  Interesting story, I have yet to find any kind of good coming from that for the innocents that died.

Both the Koran and both Testaments of the Bible are rules to live by according to the time and place they were written----

There is much to be learned about human nature in their time, much good to carry on into the future, to label either Evil in our time is to be expected, however at the time they were written, this was the way of life for people, how they lived and died.

I would imagine had these ancients seen our abortion factory's in their life time would have labled the future Evil as well.

 God did not die or desert us 2,000 years ago, nor is he sleeping as man evolved from that time to the present, we have the Prophets from thousands of years ago, strange and in another time understandable today we debate on the incites they were given back then.

We cannot nor do we continue to live in that time, we must move on and find God on our own, the written works are but a guide for the past when they were written, to have Faith is to move on and to take the lessons learned into the future, not to live by the times and morals they were written it.





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Re: Koran disrespect
« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2012, 07:53:37 AM »
Can we go back to the less is more posts, vesta?






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« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2012, 08:05:17 AM »
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Is the Koran so far from the outlaw Mormons with their multiple wives, sexual marriages to 12 year old girls, the old men booting out young males that may become a challenge for them over the preteen wives ???  All adult woman must dress alike, even down to hair styles, are these woman modern day concubines, only the first legal wife has rights, all others are spiritual wives.   Their children are not their own, they have no say in their lives, unless they tow the line a child can be taken from its mother and raised by another wife more fitting.

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Re: Koran disrespect
« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2012, 08:32:45 AM »
I dissed a Koran once.  Someone had once given me a small gold Koran to wear as a necklace.  On 9/12/2001, I took a garbage bag out into the backyard and cleaned up my 2 dogs' considerable mess.  I dumped the Koran on top of the collection. 

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« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2012, 10:41:14 AM »
I dissed a Koran once.  Someone had once given me a small gold Koran to wear as a necklace.  On 9/12/2001, I took a garbage bag out into the backyard and cleaned up my 2 dogs' considerable mess.  I dumped the Koran on top of the collection. 
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