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primitives discuss stalking on Skins's island
« on: February 21, 2012, 07:13:16 PM »
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What Constitutes Stalking on DU?

In my time on DU, I've seen many people say that they're being stalked on DU. On both DU2, and DU3, I've seen such statements. Occasionally, I've seen posts deleted or hidden because of it. But, it's unclear what constitutes stalking here, or anywhere on the internet, for that matter. It seems like a worthwhile topic to discuss in H&M, as an attempt to clarify what that word means and doesn't mean. Here are some of the things I think do and don't qualify as stalking:

Not Stalking

Posts in threads begun by a DUer that disagree with the DUer's position. This doesn't qualify as stalking, even if those posts are frequent and appear in many threads. DU is a discussion forum, and in popular forums here, it's common for people to read many of the threads posted in this forum. It's also common to disagree with the same people over and over again. Not stalking.

Using sarcasm to disagree with a poster on DU. Sarcasm, pointing out irony, and even what may seem like snarky posts doesn't qualify as stalking. All three are common rhetorical methods for stating disagreement. Not stalking.

Referring to things posted by a DUer in other DU threads. Many DUers post frequently on the site. Remembering what was said at an earlier time on DU by a frequent poster is not at all unusual for other active DUers. If you write something in one thread that contradicts something you wrote in a different thread, you can expect it to be remembered and mentioned if you are a frequent DU poster. Sometimes people will remember many things you have said in the past. Not stalking.

Comments about the tone and accuracy of a DUers posts. Our writing reflects our thinking. The way something is written is a valid thing to criticize. Not stalking.

Possible or Obvious Stalking

Seeking out and bringing up posts from the distant past in other places on the Internet not mentioned by the DUer. If a DUer doesn't make a point of discussing activities at other places on the Internet, bringing those activities up in a thread suggests that the person bringing them up has been searching around for those activities. In many cases, this can be seen as stalking. If the DUer has mentioned those other places, then it's natural to go see what was said there. In that case, it's probably not stalking.

Revealing personal information about a DUer that is not revealed in a profile or through common mention in the DUer's posts. Many DUers try to maintain some degree of anonymity on DU. If they don't reveal information about themselves in their posts or in their profiles, then knowing that information is pretty clear evidence that the person revealing it has been out hunting for it.

Making irrelevant comments about a DUer's personal attributes in a thread. Again, if the subject of the thread is not about the personal attributes of the poster, then negative comments about those personal attributes are evidence of some personal issue with that DUer. If those attributes are not common knowledge, then such comments may well be evidence of stalking behavior. If only such comments about personal attributes are made, without any attempt to discuss the topic of the thread, it's likely that the person making them came to the thread only to make those negative comments.

Any attempt to contact a DUer or real life associates of the DUer in a negative way. This is clearly stalking behavior. Examples might include making negative posts on a DUer's Facebook page, contacting the DUer via email, telephone, or following a DUer to another site to post negative comments. Attempts to contact a DUer's employer, acquaintances, or other real life associates with negative information about the DUer is clearly stalking.

Calling out a DUer in a negative way in threads where the DUer is not active. This is malicious behavior. It used to be forbidden on DU, but sometimes is allowed by DU3 juries. It's wrong and may indicate some form of stalking behavior.

Negatively referring to a DUer on another website, where that DUer is not a member. This is also malicious behavior and evidence of stalking. Making negative comments about a DUer on a website where that DUer is not a member and cannot mount a defense is never acceptable. Talking behind people's backs is simply very bad form. If you have an issue with another DUer, raise it where that DUer can respond.

Those are some of my thoughts about stalking and DU. I probably left out some, so if you have others or disagree with what I've posted, let's discuss stalking in this thread.

Whoa.

This is another barn-burner of a campfire; a really big one.
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Re: primitives discuss stalking on Skins's island
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2012, 07:17:11 PM »
So MM is writing the rules now?
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Re: primitives discuss stalking on Skins's island
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2012, 07:20:16 PM »
Quote from: chris_ on February 21, 2012, 07:17:11 PM
So MM is writing the rules now?

He's the eminence grise of Skins's island now, the wise old man.
« Last Edit: February 21, 2012, 08:55:29 PM by franksolich »
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Re: primitives discuss stalking on Skins's island
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2012, 08:52:21 PM »
It sounds as if MM is writing the rules to absolve himself from stalking poor nads.
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Re: primitives discuss stalking on Skins's island
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2012, 09:23:58 PM »
How come no one has ever stalked me?  I feel so left out. :(
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Re: primitives discuss stalking on Skins's island
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2012, 09:28:21 PM »
Those morons at DU wish they were being stalked, that way they might feel important.
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Re: primitives discuss stalking on Skins's island
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2012, 09:41:13 PM »
Quote from: Freeper on February 21, 2012, 09:28:21 PM
Those morons at DU wish they were being stalked, that way they might feel important.

Are you saying I'm not important? 
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Re: primitives discuss stalking on Skins's island
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2012, 09:43:00 PM »
Quote from: BEG on February 21, 2012, 09:41:13 PM
Are you saying I'm not important? 
I can't work up the motivation.  Can you have someone take pictures of you undressing through your bedroom window and mail them to me?
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Re: primitives discuss stalking on Skins's island
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2012, 09:55:41 PM »
Quote from: chris_ on February 21, 2012, 09:43:00 PM
I can't work up the motivation.  Can you have someone take pictures of you undressing through your bedroom window and mail them to me?

Hell, I'll do it and send them with your stupid CFL lightbulbs...when I get around to it.
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Re: primitives discuss stalking on Skins's island
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2012, 09:57:03 PM »
Quote from: BEG on February 21, 2012, 09:23:58 PM
How come no one has ever stalked me?  I feel so left out. :(

Can I be your stalker?  I have references.

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Re: primitives discuss stalking on Skins's island
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2012, 09:57:07 PM »
:rofl: That's the spirit!

You're the best.  :-*
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Re: primitives discuss stalking on Skins's island
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2012, 10:06:12 PM »
Quote from: wasp69 on February 21, 2012, 09:57:03 PM
Can I be your stalker?  I have references.

  :-)

Sure, you are the only one applying so no references necessary.
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Re: primitives discuss stalking on Skins's island
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2012, 10:23:27 PM »
Quote from: BEG on February 21, 2012, 09:23:58 PM
How come no one has ever stalked me?  I feel so left out. :(

Now wait just a darn minute. I have been stalking you for about four years. Am I being to subtle?
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Re: primitives discuss stalking on Skins's island
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2012, 10:37:04 PM »
Quote from: dutch508 on February 21, 2012, 10:23:27 PM
Now wait just a darn minute. I have been stalking you for about four years. Am I being to subtle?

Apparently.
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Re: primitives discuss stalking on Skins's island
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2012, 10:51:50 PM »
Quote from: BEG on February 21, 2012, 10:37:04 PM
Apparently.

I will step up my game.
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Re: primitives discuss stalking on Skins's island
« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2012, 11:23:14 PM »
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Re: primitives discuss stalking on Skins's island
« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2012, 07:24:52 AM »
Whew.

I checked Mineral Man's definitions of "not stalking" and "stalking" with the records of franksolich, others who were involved with Scamdy (who for obvious reasons cannot be named), and members of both conservativecave and the DUmmie FUnnies, back in 2005.

We got a clean record, folks; everything we did, all we did, fits well inside of Mineral Man's definition of "not stalking."

The primitives, on the other hand.....

The primitives should shove that up their rectal apertures and smoke it.
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Re: primitives discuss stalking on Skins's island
« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2012, 08:10:28 AM »
Quote from: BEG on February 21, 2012, 10:06:12 PM
Sure, you are the only one applying so no references necessary.

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Re: primitives discuss stalking on Skins's island
« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2012, 08:55:36 AM »
Quote from: dutch508 on February 21, 2012, 10:23:27 PM
Now wait just a darn minute. I have been stalking you for about four years. Am I being to subtle?

You stalk everything with a hole and a heartbeat :tongue:
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Re: primitives discuss stalking on Skins's island
« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2012, 10:23:20 AM »
Quote from: Gina on February 22, 2012, 08:55:36 AM
You stalk everything with a hole and a heartbeat :tongue:

True.


Don't get your point, though.

and...


How you doin'?
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Re: primitives discuss stalking on Skins's island
« Reply #20 on: February 22, 2012, 10:24:33 AM »
Quote from: dutch508 on February 22, 2012, 10:23:20 AM
True.


Don't get your point, though.

and...


How you doin'?

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Re: primitives discuss stalking on Skins's island
« Reply #21 on: February 22, 2012, 01:31:17 PM »
Quote from: Gina on February 22, 2012, 08:55:36 AM
You stalk everything with a hole and a heartbeat :tongue:

Now wait a minute. What is a warm blooded, straight,  Neo Con Repubilcan, knuckle draging male supposed to do?
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Re: primitives discuss stalking on Skins's island
« Reply #22 on: February 22, 2012, 01:39:57 PM »
I read this yesterday.  Downthread MM gets reamed for being a "former freeper" by several and he won't answer their questions.  As with most primitives, MM considers himself to be intelligent, and yet even his own stupid peers catch him in multiple lies.

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Re: primitives discuss stalking on Skins's island
« Reply #23 on: February 22, 2012, 03:35:15 PM »
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Negatively referring to a DUer on another website, where that DUer is not a member. This is also malicious behavior and evidence of stalking. Making negative comments about a DUer on a website where that DUer is not a member and cannot mount a defense is never acceptable. Talking behind people's backs is simply very bad form. If you have an issue with another DUer, raise it where that DUer can respond.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!! So they think we are stalking them! I got news for ya putz, if you morons weren't so damn ignorant you're hilarious, no one would pay any attention to you.

Quote from: BEG on February 21, 2012, 09:23:58 PM
How come no one has ever stalked me?  I feel so left out. :(

Now you've done it! We're gonna follow you around like puppy dogs now! Heheheheheheheh!!!
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Re: primitives discuss stalking on Skins's island
« Reply #24 on: February 22, 2012, 04:23:24 PM »
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Negatively referring to a DUer on another website, where that DUer is not a member. This is also malicious behavior and evidence of stalking. Making negative comments about a DUer on a website where that DUer is not a member and cannot mount a defense is never acceptable. Talking behind people's backs is simply very bad form. If you have an issue with another DUer, raise it where that DUer can respond.

WTFO?  Copying verbatim a discussion on a public website and subsequently bringing that to another public website is stalking?

Discussing a post from another public website is bullying and/or cyber stalking?

Someone help me out here, are the DUmmies delusional enough to believe that they cannot come here and defend their post(s)? :mental:
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