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MoshMasterD · « **on:** February 20, 2012, 04:54:31 PM »

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When is Violence Morally Justified?

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When is violence morally justified? I am asking when it is justified for a person (i.e. you) or a group (i.e. a State).

Also, what are the implications of your judgement? What wars were justified? What acts individual acts of violence are justified?

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7. Violence against property is often morally justified

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Violence against people is rarely morally justified

obumazombie · « **Reply #1 on:** February 20, 2012, 04:57:41 PM »

When libs talk about morality I cringe.

BannedFromDU · « **Reply #2 on:** February 20, 2012, 05:35:05 PM »

Said it before, will say it again: to a liberal, violence is justified if and only if the violence is committed against WHITE PEOPLE. Consider WWII: there is much hemming and hawing on DU about our involvement with Japan, despite Japan actually attacking the US. Germany? Never did a damned thing to us, but to a liberal, that was the only good war ever.

Why? Easy: Germans are white people.

Case closed.

Freeper · « **Reply #3 on:** February 20, 2012, 05:35:48 PM »

In their minds violence against the unborn is not only justified, but something to be celebrated.

diesel driver · « **Reply #4 on:** February 20, 2012, 05:36:26 PM »

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Taverner
7. Violence against property is often morally justified

Violence against people is rarely morally justified

I tell you what, Tav, ol' buddy.

You "commit violence" against MY property, justified or not, and I will be intensely violent on your sorry ass.

"With Extreme Prejudice" if you get my drift.

Big Don · « **Reply #5 on:** February 20, 2012, 05:40:35 PM »

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7. Violence against property is often morally justified

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Violence against people is rarely morally justified

This is the single stupidest thing I have read in years.

Big Don · « **Reply #6 on:** February 20, 2012, 05:41:57 PM »

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with violence and the only way to defend yourself is to counter with violence, then use whatever force necessary to defend your life.

The USA was never attacked by Iraq and Bush (of course) lied that we were in imminent danger of being attacked with nuclear weapons. IMO, he does not now nor did he ever have justification to make war in Iraq. How he would argue--I doubt if he could put two thoughts together, much less a coherent argument. He's a war criminal and should be prosecuted. Let him argue his case in court.

These idiots are still on that?

Freeper · « **Reply #7 on:** February 20, 2012, 05:42:29 PM »

Quote from: Big Don on February 20, 2012, 05:40:35 PM

This is the single stupidest thing I have read in years.

I bet, if said property belongs to them, all of a sudden it is a criminal act.

Freeper · « **Reply #8 on:** February 20, 2012, 05:43:40 PM »

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Bush (of course) lied that we were in imminent danger of being attacked with nuclear weapons

Bush, nor anyone in his administration ever made that claim, you potted plant.

BannedFromDU · « **Reply #9 on:** February 20, 2012, 05:43:45 PM »

Taverner is referring to the particular violence against property of placing it in a spoon, covering it with water, and boiling it before loading it into a syringe.

diesel driver · « **Reply #10 on:** February 20, 2012, 05:47:05 PM »

Quote from: Big Don on February 20, 2012, 05:40:35 PM

This is the single stupidest thing I have read in years.

Be patient.

This year has barely started.

Odin's Hand · « **Reply #11 on:** February 20, 2012, 06:00:08 PM »

A search of this forum with the paramaters "Taverner violence" yields quite a few instances of ol' Tavs promoting that very thing.

Here is a particularly interesting one where Tavs yearns to "burn down the corporatists", in a blaze of self-righteous anger, a la, a similar attack several months ago in India..enjoy.

http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,56203.0/highlight,taverner+violence.html

BannedFromDU · « **Reply #12 on:** February 20, 2012, 06:02:01 PM »

Quote from: Odin's Hand on February 20, 2012, 06:00:08 PM

A search of this forum with the paramaters "Taverner violence" yields quite a few instances of ol' Tavs promoting that very thing.

Here is a particularly interesting one where Tavs yearns to "burn down the corporatists", in a blaze of self-righteous anger, a la, a similar attack several months ago in India..enjoy.

http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,56203.0/highlight,taverner+violence.html

Taverner is a ****ing unemployabvle drug addicted scumbag - not surprised he can't remember what he said yesterday, let alone months ago.

LC EFA · « **Reply #13 on:** February 20, 2012, 06:04:23 PM »

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7. Violence against property is often morally justified

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Violence against people is rarely morally justified

So it's all good if I come past sat morning and burn down your dope crop ?

Just letting you know in advance so you can ensure you're safely out of the way. Wouldn't want to accidentally be violent against a person now would I.

Mr Mannn · « **Reply #14 on:** February 20, 2012, 06:10:28 PM »

To a liberal/socialist, commie...Moral anything is a nebulous concept.

Remember Anthony Weiner's resignation? DUers were saying he didn't have to resign because he never ran on a moral platform...moral standards simply did not apply to him. Too bad that the voters in his district decided they wanted a moral man and elected a republican (against a hand picked Democrat) for the first time in 50 years.

In the Mind Numbing Stupidity forum, there is a thread about the Daily Kos founder claiming no one cares if Occupiers rape women, the cause is more important. Morality is not exactly the Left's strong suit.

I shudder when the left does take a moral stand. The Death Penalty is immoral...but the mass murder of millions of babies is not a moral issue. Meat is murder but not abortion. Its no big deal if Iran wants to commit a a second (nuclear) holocaust...its only Israel. DU went into spasms of orgasmic Joy when Fired workers in India burned an executive to death (the executive had no relationship to the firing). DU loved the moral rightness of it all.

What do we learn from this?
When the Left takes a moral stand, people DIE.

We all have known for quite a while that the Occupy movement is planning on violence. Like DU, commies lie all the time. Hence you should take warning when a movement starts out claiming non-violence but goads the police with acts of...violence. the rapes and murders in the camps are just a vision of the true foundations of the movement. They are not speaking revolution for naught.

2012 will be an interesting year. There will be no obvious connections, but the democrats have found their brown shirts. Violence is about to become a political tool of the democrat party. Not all DUmmies are useless eaters in the parent's basement. Occupy is setting the foundation for murder.

posts like the OP, simply ought to warn you.

Ogre · « **Reply #15 on:** February 20, 2012, 06:15:48 PM »

morÂ·al [mawr-uhl, mor-]

adjective
1. of, pertaining to, or concerned with the principles or rules of right conduct or the distinction between right and wrong; ethical: moral attitudes.

2. expressing or conveying truths or counsel as to right conduct, as a speaker or a literary work; moralizing: a moral novel.

3. founded on the fundamental principles of right conduct rather than on legalities, enactment, or custom: moral obligations.

4. capable of conforming to the rules of right conduct: a moral being.

5. conforming to the rules of right conduct ( opposed to immoral): a moral man.

I now understand why DUmmies and morals have never gotten acquainted.

jukin · « **Reply #16 on:** February 20, 2012, 06:19:11 PM »

When it is committed against someone that a leftist/Liberal/socialist/communist/fascist disagrees with. [/DUchebag]

Delmar · « **Reply #17 on:** February 20, 2012, 06:31:07 PM »

Quote from: BannedFromDU on February 20, 2012, 05:35:05 PM

Said it before, will say it again: to a liberal, violence is justified if and only if the violence is committed against WHITE PEOPLE. Consider WWII: there is much hemming and hawing on DU about our involvement with Japan, despite Japan actually attacking the US. Germany? Never did a damned thing to us, but to a liberal, that was the only good war ever.

Why? Easy: Germans are white people.

Case closed.

I would open the case back up to add that Nazi Germany broke the non-aggression pact with the workers paradise.

obumazombie · « **Reply #18 on:** February 20, 2012, 08:40:15 PM »

The occupoopers are more of a bowel movement.

MoshMasterD · « **Reply #19 on:** February 20, 2012, 10:38:56 PM »

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BrentWil
27. One will lead to the other. Do you have a right to use violence for someone defending their land?

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Taverner
31. Anyone who kills another over property has committed cold blooded murder IMO

I think there is a good chance Taverner is capable of killing a person.

JakeStyle · « **Reply #20 on:** February 20, 2012, 11:39:18 PM »

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11. Well then....

Every year tens of thousands of people die because they don't have health insurance should we then kill the politicians who are keeping them from getting health insurance, should we kill the politicians that want to repeal the new healthcare bill ?

DU3 shines a giant spotlight on these flipping idiots. The monkey house at the San Diego Zoo is better moderated than the DUmp.

diesel driver · « **Reply #21 on:** February 21, 2012, 04:10:20 AM »

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Taverner
31. Anyone who kills another over property has committed cold blooded murder IMO.

In that case:
1. Leave my stuff alone, and keep your worthless ass out of West Virginia, Western Virginia, Western North Carolina, Eastern Kentucky, and Eastern Tennessee. People around here ARE armed, and WILL shoot you over their property, and it is LEGAL!
2. You know the old saying about opinions. It's also better to have one than to be one.
3. The only thing needing to be committed is YOU. Get help, son, even if it's self-inflicted.

SSG Snuggle Bunny · « **Reply #22 on:** February 21, 2012, 06:31:58 AM »

It's morally right to smash taverner's computer over taverner's head.

AprilRazz · « **Reply #23 on:** February 21, 2012, 06:47:02 AM »

Quote from: diesel driver on February 21, 2012, 04:10:20 AM

In that case:
1. Leave my stuff alone, and keep your worthless ass out of West Virginia, Western Virginia, Western North Carolina, Eastern Kentucky, and Eastern Tennessee. People around here ARE armed, and WILL shoot you over their property, and it is LEGAL!
2. You know the old saying about opinions. It's also better to have one than to be one.
3. The only thing needing to be committed is YOU. Get help, son, even if it's self-inflicted.

And once the governor signs the new law. Your family can't sue me for shooting your butt.

BadCat · « **Reply #24 on:** February 21, 2012, 07:09:59 AM »

Castle doctrine here.

C'mon down and **** with my property, Taverner. You'll never hear the shot...I promise.

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