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Where were the bishops when Troy Davis died?
« on: February 19, 2012, 02:47:35 PM »
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Where were the bishops when Troy Davis died?

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Where were the bishops when Troy Davis died?
byDante Atkins

Not all doctrine is created equal.

On September 21, 2011, a man's life ended. His death was not natural; it was not a product of anyone's god; rather, the drug cocktails that caused the heart of Troy Davis to stop beating were purely the result of human artifice.

Davis was a convicted murderer who was put to death by the State of Georgia as punishment for the crimes of which he was found guilty. Like so many other death row inmates who were wrongly convicted of—and sometimes even executed for—crimes they did not commit, Troy Davis may well have been innocent. There was no physical evidence proving his crime, and many of the eywitnesses upon whom Davis' conviction depended later recanted their testimony, citing undue pressure from prosecutors to finger the person they had apparently already decided was responsible. In the end, however, whether or not Troy Davis was guilty or not is merely salt in the wound of a far bigger outrage.

The Catholic Church officially opposes capital punishment. This doctrine is in the same vein as those opposing abortion, birth control, and physician-assisted suicide: church doctrine dictates that life begins at conception and is a gift from God. Consequently, it is beyond the scope of any soul, no matter how high the earthly authority, to terminate a human life. It does not matter if it is legal, and it does not matter if the rationale is to relieve suffering: the taking of life is God's department, not ours.

Yet in the middle of September, as opposition to the impending execution of Troy Davis reached a fever pitch and a singular opportunity presented itself for the Church to not just call for an act of mercy, but support a key element of doctrine, the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops was silent as the grave. Yes, some local Catholic bishops in Georgia did support the conscience of their doctrine by calling for a reprieve, but the USCCB, the organization most responsible for lobbying and policy advocacy on behalf of the Holy See here in the United States, sat idly by. The execution of a possibly innocent man was not enough to stir the bishops into action. But birth control? That's a different story altogether.

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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/02/19/1066067/-Where-were-the-bishops-when-Troy-Davis-died-?via=blog_1

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002329025

These oxygen thieves cry like a baby when a cop killer gets what he deserves, then cheer when the unborn are murdered.
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Re: Where were the bishops when Troy Davis died?
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2012, 03:07:34 PM »
The Catholic church has stated that it is possible to disagree with it on the death penalty and still be a catholic.  It's standing against abortion and birth control is a long stated policy.
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Re: Where were the bishops when Troy Davis died?
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2012, 03:09:04 PM »
Davis was as guilty as they come. I'm from Georgia and have been following this travesty of justice delayed for quite some time. Sadly, his execution took much too long, and was painless.. By the way, the bishops had nothing to do with it. Good riddance to bad trash. He's roasting in hell where he belongs.
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Re: Where were the bishops when Troy Davis died?
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2012, 03:22:16 PM »
Quote from: ruble on February 19, 2012, 03:09:04 PM
Davis was as guilty as they come. I'm from Georgia and have been following this travesty of justice delayed for quite some time. Sadly, his execution took much too long, and was painless.. By the way, the bishops had nothing to do with it. Good riddance to bad trash. He's roasting in hell where he belongs.

You're right! I'm pretty sure God didn't have a damn thing to do with this POS losin' his life! I think that would have been Satan, you ****in' morons!
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Re: Where were the bishops when Troy Davis died?
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2012, 07:04:27 PM »
Certainly a nicer way to die than being ripped apart, having your brains sucked out of your head, or having digitalis injected in your heart to make it beat so hard it rips itself apart.  But of course, those humans are much smaller, and it takes special equipment to see them, so they don't matter.
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Re: Where were the bishops when Troy Davis died?
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2012, 07:28:58 PM »
The Bible makes previsions for the death penalty. Both Genesis and Romans state that God has given this right to the state and there are numerous examples of laws that allow the option of capital punishment if broken. The Bishops know this and so would you if you bothered to pick up a Bible and read it.
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Re: Where were the bishops when Troy Davis died?
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2012, 05:45:09 AM »
Another "minor" point, the church isn't being ordered to pay for execution chambers, or threatened with fines or taxes for refusing to cover execution chambers.  Not at all an even comparison.   

No one should be ordered to assist with murder, and that is exactly what the "contraception" law does...order all employers and employees to pay for a product from a private corporation that will be used to murder humans.
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Re: Where were the bishops when Troy Davis died?
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2012, 07:09:52 AM »
OK DUmmies you want to play that game?
Where was Eric Holder when Brian Terry was killed?
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Re: Where were the bishops when Troy Davis died?
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2012, 07:15:26 AM »
IIRC the Church is as dead set against capital punishment as it abortion nd for the same reasons.

When Mr. Davis and others are put to death the Church makes known its feelings (no separation of church and state crocodile tears come from the left, BTW)

However, if the state suddenly demanded the Church subsidize the purchase of lethal injection drugs the Church would see this as a state-imposed violation of its conscience and as such they would have constitutional grounds to object.
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Re: Where were the bishops when Troy Davis died?
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2012, 07:27:24 AM »
Quote from: SGT Snuggle Bunny on February 20, 2012, 07:15:26 AM
IIRC the Church is as dead set against capital punishment as it abortion nd for the same reasons.

When Mr. Davis and others are put to death the Church makes known its feelings (no separation of church and state crocodile tears come from the left, BTW)

However, if the state suddenly demanded the Church subsidize the purchase of lethal injection drugs the Church would see this as a state-imposed violation of its conscience and as such they would have constitutional grounds to object.

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Re: Where were the bishops when Troy Davis died?
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2012, 08:59:44 AM »
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The Catholic Church officially opposes capital punishment. This doctrine is in the same vein as those opposing abortion, birth control, and physician-assisted suicide: church doctrine dictates that life begins at conception and is a gift from God. Consequently, it is beyond the scope of any soul, no matter how high the earthly authority, to terminate a human life. It does not matter if it is legal, and it does not matter if the rationale is to relieve suffering: the taking of life is God's department, not ours.

Bollocks - pure and simple.

Church doctrine is indeed that human life is a gift from God and its destruction is not within our legitimate purview - however, the destruction of life which is caused when a convicted criminal is legally executed is the fault of the criminal not of the rest of society.
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Re: Where were the bishops when Troy Davis died?
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2012, 09:00:54 AM »
Quote from: MrsSmith on February 20, 2012, 05:45:09 AM
Another "minor" point, the church isn't being ordered to pay for execution chambers, or threatened with fines or taxes for refusing to cover execution chambers.  Not at all an even comparison.

This is the heart of the issue. The Church is not trying to ban contraception, it is merely saying that she should not have to pay for it.
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Re: Where were the bishops when Troy Davis died?
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2012, 11:51:45 AM »
Hey Troy say "Hi" to Tookie for me.
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Re: Where were the bishops when Troy Davis died?
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2012, 04:51:22 PM »
Quote from: ruble on February 19, 2012, 03:09:04 PM
Davis was as guilty as they come. I'm from Georgia and have been following this travesty of justice delayed for quite some time. Sadly, his execution took much too long, and was painless.. By the way, the bishops had nothing to do with it. Good riddance to bad trash. He's roasting in hell where he belongs.

Bingo!  I live just South of Savannah, and I was sick and tired of all the "appeals" and protests for the cop killer. He should have been put to death YEARS ago....
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Re: Where were the bishops when Troy Davis died?
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2012, 04:56:49 PM »
The libs point to the endless appeals as proof that the death penalty is more costly than incarceration. They also love trotting out the old saw that the death penalty is no deterrent to capital crimes.
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Re: Where were the bishops when Troy Davis died?
« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2012, 09:14:27 AM »
Quote from: dixierose on February 20, 2012, 04:51:22 PM
Bingo!  I live just South of Savannah, and I was sick and tired of all the "appeals" and protests for the cop killer. He should have been put to death YEARS ago....

I'm in Augusta, and Troy Davis can burn in hell.
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Re: Where were the bishops when Troy Davis died?
« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2012, 04:18:32 PM »
There's another cop killer who the libs are enchanted with. Mumia! Looks like that piece of fecal matter is going to get away with it.

Why is it that libs take up the causes of these dirt bags.
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