With global coo--er--war--er--climate change fading, they switch to frakking

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

frakking idiots

Cry, "Havoc!" And let slip the hounds of unfounded accusation!

garybeck (8,467 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

I do not understand why the horrible situation in Leroy, NY is not in the headlines.

Le Roy Mystery Disease Update

Update: 2/9/2011
Recently released documents show a fracking spill took place on school grounds- strangely, a month and a half before the first girl started exhibiting Tourette-like symptoms.

http://holisticremediesnews.com/2144/le-roy-mystery-disease-update-fracking-spill-documented-on-school-grounds/

Update: 2/7/2011
Holistic Remedies News corespondent Carol Sidofsky has just received an e mail from one of the Le Roy parents whose daughter is one of 16 suffering from the mystery disease. The e mail also includes a press release by Dr. Trifeletti, M.D. (pediatric neurologist) from Ramsey New Jersey who is treating 9 of the 12 girls. The parent (who asked to remain nameless) said Dr. Trifeletti requested the press release to be sent to “whomever is interested in helping the Le Roy tic disorders sufferers.”

“A PANDAS-like illness is my working diagnosis, rather than amass conversion disorder as others have suggested,” said Dr. Trifiletti. He has already started treating the girls with antibiotics and anti-inflammatory agents.
When asked to comment on the continued insistence by Dr. Laszlo Mechtler that the girls have conversion disorder (or mass hysteria as Dr. Mechtler originally stated), Dr. Trifiletti said, “I’m confused by that because he’s never actually seen or interviewed any of the nine girls I examined.”
These findings provide a significant clue in the Le Roy High School mystery, but certainly many questions remain.

http://holisticremediesnews.com/2091/le-roy-mystery-disease-update-working-diagnosis-linked-to-infectionsenvironment/

Update: 2/3/2011. Fracking is a very effective method used by Drilling Companies to extract natural gas underneath the ground (and sideways) without disturbing the surface. The process uses water and toxic chemicals that are injected at high pressure into the ground to release the gas. One of the world’s largest natural gas supplies runs through Pennsylvania, but also continues on to western New York State, in fact right on through to Le Roy New York where 6 gas wells exist underneath Le Roy Junior/Senior High School. Was fracking used to extract gas underneath the school? Exposure to the chemicals used in fracking are proven toxins which kills trees, livestock, causes muscle tremors, dizziness, cardiac issues to humans and can make the water supply flammable.

Leroy Families Describe Medical Mystery Anguish
http://drdrew.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/03/le-roy-families-describe-medical-mystery-anguish/?hpt=dr_t3

Documents: Fracking Wells Spilled Shortly Before Illnesses Developed
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2012/02/03/exp-drew-gas-wells-leroy-fracking-hln.cnn

New York Students Illness
http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/03/us/new-york-students-illness/index.html

Mothers: They're Not Faking Symptoms
http://drdrew.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/01/mothers-theyre-not-faking-symptoms/?hpt=dr_t2


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Is it just me? It seems like if this were any other kind of tragedy it would be in the headlines every night as it unfolds. But it seems to be buried in the news, and most people don't even know this is happening. Could it have anything to do with the fact that fracking and/or negligence by the school officials might be involved?

Holistic Remedies News?

redqueen (94,006 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

1. I'd suspect fracking over school negligence...

stories about school negligence seem to spread fairly well once they get out.

I'd suspect nothing without evidence first.

But then again, I'm not a liberal.

Earth_First (8,749 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

3. It's getting there, greybeck...

Last edited Fri Feb 10, 2012, 03:49 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

Through no fault of the parents and their children, their message is slowly getting out there.

Leroy is a small, mostly rural town that is not generally used to handling situations like this; so I have no fault on the parents for the lack of media coverage. They're doing the best they can, the best they know how to...ya know?

I place the blame squarely on the state and school district since the entire time, they have been extremely covert, cryptic and cynical of the whole situation.

In fact, two weeks ago *ALL* media requests are now handled through a law firm almost nearly 50 miles away in Rochester, N.Y.

There was an independant research and analysis team (Erin Brockavich's firm) that showed up with the media in tow two weeks ago to take soil samples, and the district called the State Police on them and became further reclusive with the media.

They've hired a private security firm to patroll the enterances to the campus and ensure that the media is adhering to the off-campus orders as well...

It will take some time, but the parents, children and activists here locally are doing their absolute best that they can...

garybeck (8,467 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

8. I'm from Rochester.

This entire situation smells really rotten. Why does a school stonewall parents and hire a law firm to answer questions?

I believe this will eventually be a huge story, if the "be the media" folks (like us) can do our job and break through.

Definitely no fault of the parents. I watch those videos and my heart just aches for them.

one thing I know, if I lived in Leroy, at this point my kids would NOT be going to that school until this is resolved. From my cold dead arms they would have to pry my kids away from me.

I love how culpability and exoneration are just divvied out at the DUmp.

onlyadream (883 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

5. Not a word about the fracking

Ive been following this story, and there's no talk of fracking yet. Maybe Erin B. will investigate this avenue. I also read that a 38 yo woman and a boy also started experiencing symptoms but this is hardly mentioned in the MSM.

When the group you're antagonizing swings big fists you should never lead with your mouth.

TheWraith (22,308 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

9. First off, stop reading "Holistic Remedies News."

You're going to get your mind filled with more horseshit than if you watched Fox.

Second, it's been all over the national news for weeks, and made the evening network news a few days ago. The simple fact is, though, there's not a lot to report. Despite multiple doctors, no one can find any actual medical cause for the girls' symptoms. That leads to the suspicion from some doctors that it's psychosomatic--which contrary to popular myth does NOT mean "faking it" or "crazy," but rather genuine symptoms brought on by stress, trauma, fear, etcetera. 

heh

Good luck at trying to keep them from making asses of themselves.

Earth_First (8,749 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

13. Hydrofracking + active Superfund cleanup site + mysterious illnesses...

It's pretty easy to get on someone when you are removed from the situation, what's your connection to the story?

Fact is, it's a disturbing situation to those of us who live in Western/Central New York, so ease up a bit, would ya?

I think I found the source of your concern in the title...

..."superFUND"

TheWraith (22,308 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

18. I live 20 miles south of Le Roy. nt

heh

Little Star (7,482 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

16. 5 natural gas wells ring the high school (& there is fracking going on)

I was watching Dr Drew about this until he turned chicken shit and tried to lead everyone to believe that it's just conversion disorder.

When the topic started heating up about those wells surrounding the school he stopped covering it.

This is a thread I started about this back on Feb 2nd. There's a few good links in there.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002256488

So a guy with a sex therapy radio show can't determine why stupid kids act stupid but he's a chicken shit for not lending whatever credibility he's supposed to have to your unfounded paranoia.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002294534

It's weird how the people who actually work on frakking crews don't suffer from tourettes.

****ing goddam ***** chickenshit morons.

[AllosaursRus]

So a guy with a sex therapy radio show can't determine why stupid kids act stupid but he's a chicken shit for not lending whatever credibility he's supposed to have to your unfounded paranoia.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002294534

It's weird how the people who actually work on frakking crews don't suffer from tourettes.

****ing goddam ***** chickenshit morons.

Yeah, according to these 'tards" everyone working on a frack crew should be rumblin' stumblin' zombies! Big surprise they remain clueless!

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Yeah, according to these 'tards" everyone working on a frack crew should be rumblin' stumblin' zombies! Big surprise they remain clueless!

I have stood atop many a gel truck.

I've had the gel on my bare fur.

I've scooped it off the ground (slippery shit takes forever to come up).

I've run the acid truck.

I've run blender trucks.

I've been at the wellhead when it was uncoupled and been sprayed by water-acid-gel.

I've waded through puddles after we uncoupled all the pumping trucks from the "missile" (a giant hydraulic pumping manifold).

I am one of tens of thousands.

[miskie]

"Holistic Remedies News" -- yeah.. That's a reliable source...    


"A PANDAS-like illness is my working diagnosis"

[JohnnyReb]

I have a relative with extreme tourettes. He grunts, hollars profanity, jumps/jerks and spits from every few seconds to every couple of minutes...a little farther apart when not stressed. He has been that way since birth. He has not hid in a closet. He did well as a young man in several different businesses that required a lot of contact with the general public. He finally hit upon one that made him rich and well known in several states. He has raised a good family and now has some great grandkids...none with tourettes. He did at one time take medication to try to control the tic's but it made him a zombie and did little to control the condition.

I think these girls have just hit upon an attention getting fad. When the attention goes away so will the tourette tic's.

[Chris_]

I have a friend with tourettes.  He shakes and twitches, but it doesn't affect his speech or coordination.  His condition resembles a mild case of Parkinsons.

[longview]

I'm not convinced that fracking is safe for area water supplies.  Some around Wyoming have had changes in their available water after this process is done.

A Wall Street Journal article:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203501304577086472373346232.html

Forbes:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherhelman/2011/12/08/what-if-fracking-did-pollute-wyoming-water/

And I saw a link to a Huff Post article, if you prefer that site.   

[Doc Savage]

I was not aware that the chemicals used only affected females.  Strange indeed......

[redwhit]

I'm wondering if there could be anything here that might help explain the incidents in Salem, MA back in the late 1600s.  And somehow I don't think fracking is it.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

I'm wondering if there could be anything here that might help explain the incidents in Salem, MA back in the late 1600s.  And somehow I don't think fracking is it.

Fracking splits open the gates of hell that Satan and his minions might pour forth.

I read it on MSNBTreason.

[redwhit]

They might have spelled it a little differently, but I think one of the Mathers would have mentioned fracking's potential as a pathway to Satan.  They mentioned almost everything else they could thing of.

[obumazombie]

Yeah, according to these 'tards" everyone working on a frack crew should be rumblin' stumblin' zombies! Big surprise they remain clueless!

Then they would be owebuma voters.

[jukin]

Remember that woman Erin Brockovich, the one that's claim to fame was shaking down PG&E for some supposed illness they had wrought on a small town?

Proved to be total and absolute bullshit about five years ago.

[obumazombie]

Same deal with John Edwards, in the L&D arena.

[BlueStateSaint]

Remember that woman Erin Brockovich, the one that's claim to fame was shaking down PG&E for some supposed illness they had wrought on a small town?

Guess who is now saying that she'll advocate for these girls?

[DumbAss Tanker]

OP sounds a lot like a historical into to the Salem witch trials.

 

[Jason]

Remember that woman Erin Brockovich, the one that's claim to fame was shaking down PG&E for some supposed illness they had wrought on a small town?

Proved to be total and absolute bullshit about five years ago.

I hadn't heard that, got a link?

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

I hadn't heard that, got a link?

A study released in 2010 by the California Cancer Registry showed that cancer rates in Hinkley "remained unremarkable from 1988 to 2008."[7] An epidemiologist involved in the study said that "the 196 cases of cancer reported during the most recent survey of 1996 through 2008 were less than what he would expect based on demographics and the regional rate of cancer."[7] However, considering the survey spanned a time period of 22 to 32 years after PG&E’s discontinued use of hexavalent chromium, it is unknown how many cancer cases were not included in the study due to the relocation of families or the untimely deaths of afflicted residents of Hinkley.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin_Brockovich

[Evil_Conservative]

What the frack?

Wasn't DU playing the frack card when the Oklahoma earthquakes hit?  Because, after all, earthquakes are ONLY for California.

[obumazombie]

And earthquakes never cause fracking.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

What the frack?

Wasn't DU playing the frack card when the Oklahoma earthquakes hit?  Because, after all, earthquakes are ONLY for California.

Those idiots blamed the tsunami that hit Indonesia on all the bombs dropping in Iraq.

How bad was it?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2907807